Ravers are just a less smelly version of hippies with worse music and...

[JVS]

harder drugs. Discuss

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

1. Yep. Pure MDA is pretty fun though. Trippier than MDMA.

[progmom]

2. I've heard from reliable sources that you are smelly

and like bad drugs

[JVS]

3. But I was yelling at some damn raver, which is like a clean version of...

a hippie but with worse music!

[NewWaveChick1981]

4. Did you shake your fist and tell them "Get off my lawn!"?

:P

[JVS]

5. Get off my lawn, but leave the drugs here!

[NewWaveChick1981]

9. At least you're a hip grumpy old man...

:hi:

[Richardo]

6. .

:thumbsup:

[progmom]

7. are you a raver?

or a hippie?

[JVS]

8. All things are in flux

[Deja Q]

10. I thought you were referring to that tv commercial of recent...

Olive Garden, I think it was.

yeah, real folky. If "folky" means "phony"...

[Bridget Burke]

11. Sure, there were no hard drugs in the old days!

Except for heroin, coke, meth & codeine.

[JVS]

12. But hippies aren't famous for using coke and smack

[Bridget Burke]

13. But some did.

Not all hippie folks were upper middle class dropouts from fine colleges. Coke did come into its own later--but other "bad stuff" was around, too.

(I didn't go the hard way--but knew some who did.)

[JVS]

14. that's nice

[Bridget Burke]

27. Facts are not always "nice"

Peace, love, flowers, grass & 'shrooms were around back then. But they don't tell the whole story of "hippiedom."

[Benfea]

15. If by "worse" you mean "far better," then yes. -NT

[JVS]

16. Where in Illinois do you llive?

Maybe you can show me where the "good" music is

[Benfea]

18. I consider hippy music a bare step above country & western...

...and I consider country and western to be a bare step above rotting ox carcasses.

[JVS]

22. and how does that make rave music good?

Is there even such a thing as a song in that genre or is it endless noise from machines?

[Benfea]

24. I never said "good," I said "far better."

I happen to like techno music, but that still doesn't excuse putting words in my mouth.

[devilgrrl]

17. No. Ravers are just as SMELLY if not MORE than hippies.

I'm just saying... :shrug:

[JVS]

21. Well I guess it depends on when you find them

If they've been dancing for hours they'll stink, but they can at least be relied upon to bathe regularly

[devilgrrl]

25. Just funnin'

:silly:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. I don't know, hippies had some pretty bad music.

But I like both.

[JVS]

20. But the "Freedom Rock" collection was awesome

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Ah, but compilations present a biased sample.

I've always been interested in youth music. It constantly evolves and it constantly stays the same. I find it fascinating.

A few weeks ago I bought an album by a kid called Fatboy Slim. Apparently he's part of this "Rave" music movement. Now, I'm interested in how people can make such good music from so little- scratches, beats, simple sound effects, etc. But one track on this album (Palookaville?) had a sample from the "hippie" Five Man Electrical Band hit "Signs."

It was just the one line "And the sign said: long haired freaky people need not apply." Repeated over and over.

Now when that song came out, it was something of an angry protest song. And similar to something what Woody Guthrie would have written, a mix of folk music and political activism.

When Five Man Electrical Band wrote it, it was a sign (no pun intended) of anger and defiance against conformity. When Fatboy Slim samples it, it's a sign of celebration of nonconformity and how far we've come.

It's all very entertaining. Now lets dance.

[ghostsofgiants]

23. That's music?

Sounds like a bunch of people putting up shelves, to me.

(Joke stolen from Dylan Moran)