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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:30 AM
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What does "Seclorum" mean?
anyone?

I read somewhere that "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New Secular Order" however that same phrase (yes its' on the dollar) is translated in many different ways. So I looked it up in Latin to English on-line sites and I can find "Novus" and "Ordo" but no "Seclorum".

Novus = new
Ordo = Rank, class, ORDER
Seclorum = ?

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:32 AM
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1. Something about Forever, I think
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 10:34 AM by patrice
High School Latin was a long time ago.

BTW, I've got a crush on W.Clark since I watched him on Chris Mathews last night. I knew I liked him, but he really spoke up last night. Good!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:32 AM
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2. I Think It's Something That Penicillin Will Cure
if you get to the free clinic early enough.

-- Allen
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:36 AM
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3. as long as it's not "santorum"
Savage Love fans know what I mean.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:37 AM
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4. lol!
How you enjoying VA Allen, I remember you spoke of moving to my evil state a while back.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:45 AM
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10. I'm Still In MD... Fort Washington (South Of Oxon Hill)
first beltway exit in Maryland after crossing the Wilson Bridge.

After looking around, we discovered that property values in VA are too bloated. So we decided to stay in MD.

You get more for your money here (as far as actualy PROPERTY is concerned) but... BUT... Prince George's county has it's own baggage as well. Definitely some culture shock going on for me. I'm getting used to it though. This isn't our retirement dream home. Our goal is to get to the Seattle area eventually.

Besides... other than the overpriced property... VA is too conservative.

-- Allen
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:27 AM
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13. Too conservative?
I guess you got a problem.

Alexandria and Arlington are as liberal as anything can possible be, but they're also more expensive. Fairfax is now majority Democratic, and some areas are pretty damn-near 100%. Now Loudon and Prince William might be a bit more of a problem.

But you're never going to beat PG's prices.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:30 AM
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14. We were considering Reston or Falls Church...
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 11:53 AM by arwalden
... we'll just muddle through here until it's time to go.

-- Allen
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:37 AM
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5. 'A new order for the ages' according to the US State Dept.....
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:38 AM
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7. Google is our friend, no?
;-)
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:39 AM
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8. Many words have multi meanings in Latin
I wish I could find this frickin word!

Thanks for the link btw.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:38 AM
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6. Novus Ordo Seclorum = A New Order of the Ages
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:39 AM
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9. Diplomatic way of saying
'A new world order'...seeing as that phrase has picked up so much baggage lately.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:47 AM
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11. Not in my pocket Latin dictionary either..
BTW English secular in Latin is profanis.



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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 10:48 AM
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12. isn't that what Santorum uses for mouthwash? n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:35 AM
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15. Doesn't in mean not of the priestly caste?
Anything not to do with gods? I dunno. I had four years of Latin and all I remember is Veni, vidi, vici.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:45 AM
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18. I often wonder why

the porn industry is fascinated with the number 30.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:54 AM
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19. Not only that, but in 2006 we'll have Super Bowl XL
...which describes most of the fans thereof.

I can hear the Abbot and Costello routine already:

"What size do you want your Super Bowl XL shirt?"
"XL"
"That's the number alright. What size?"
"XL"
"Yep, between XXXIX and XLI. How big do you want the shirt?"

etc etc :D
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:41 AM
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16. So much for a classic education

It means "of an age", in this case, as in era, period or generation.


Novus Ordo Seclorum literally means "New Order of the Age"
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:44 AM
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17. "Seculorum" is the genitive plural of "secula,"
which means "age, era."

"In secula seculorum" (unto the age of ages) is a church Latin way of saying "forever."
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 11:56 AM
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20. The one I could never figure out was "Annuit Coeptis"
Edited on Tue Dec-09-03 11:57 AM by Richardo
How do you get "Providence has favored our untertakings" from that?

And note, fundies: "Providence", not "Jesus" - "Favored" not "blessed" :eyes:
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