What Age Is Too Young To Start Wearing Make-Up?

[arwalden]

[WCGreen]

1. I think fourteen months should be the cut off...

If you can't start asking yourself, what would Britney wear by the time you take your first steps, what, I say, is the point of living....

[arwalden]

3. Baby Pageant Contestants Should Be Required To Apply Their OWN Makeup!

Wouldn't that be lovely?

[Gormy Cuss]

6. And do their own hair.

:o

[underpants]

8. Baby Pageant Contestants parents should be in jail

and trust me I have a little girl that could crush competition in a pageant.

That is just sick.

[ThomCat]

28. I SO agree with you.

I am convinced that there is a ton of abuse happening in those families. The exagerated gender stereotyping is so extreme that it's hard to believe it wouldn't manifest in other harmfull ways.

[Sequoia]

41. Yes, remember Jon Benet

You can't tell me she wasn't abused. Rumor going around that her dad had her in porno videos but I don't know. I think it's sick to parade these little girls around for hard up child molestors.

[Arkansas Granny]

79. I can't see a picture like that without thinking of Jon Benet.

I just think there is something a little sick in putting makeup on a baby so they will resemble a desirable, sexy woman. It really gives me the creeps.

[KitchenWitch]

37. Right on

I also have a daughter that could crush any competition, but I refuse to do that to her.

[KittyWampus]

81. would you be willing to call this a form of child abuse? I'm curious

if DU'ers would be willing to say our society shouldn't allow this.

IMO, it's exploitative in a sexual vein... whether parents realize it consciously or not.

Parents who force or allow their kids to spend intense amounts of time devoted to a sport or whatever may possibly be exploitative but it isn't sexual in nature.

IMO, those girls are dressed and made up to appear as sexually available and mature women.

[realisticphish]

2. holy jesus

if those are indeed real children, and not porcelain dolls, then i'll puke

How can ANYONE think this is an A-OK thing to do to your kids

[texanwitch]

10. Those are real children, I think it is sick to do that to little girls.

[LaraMN]

4. Ew! Ick. Seeing babies with make-up on creeps me out!

I was twelve before I was allowed to wear lip gloss and (tastefully applied) brown mascara.

[Sequoia]

42. Not allowed until 16 for me.

I won't wear make-up on the weekend, just for work anymore. Children are beautiful in their own right.

[laheina]

52. Exactly! Children are beautiful for what they are,

and when people start making them into little adults, it is just sad.

They deserve their childhoods.

[Midlodemocrat]

5. Is the one on the right human or a doll?

as in plastic?

[underpants]

9. I think one of them is

but the more I look at it the more I am not sure which is real.

[Mutley]

7. Are those even real human beings?

Good God!

I wasn't allowed to wear makeup until I was 13. By then I was no longer interested. :crazy:

[WCGreen]

13. I quit wering makeup by the time I hit eight...

I figured, hey, Bowie is calling for advice...

Maybe it's time to hit a new trend, you hear what I'm sayin'

[Mutley]

15. But you're a guy.

I'm not. :P

[djeseru]

11. Why the insistence upon...

...making little girls look "adult"? I think it's twisted and irresponsible, not to mention plain sick. Let these girls be little kids for heaven's sake...

[ThomCat]

31. Making kids look like adults is horrible,

but what makes my worry the most is making them look like sexy adults.

There is no reason on earth to make a kid look like a high priced call-girl.

[Maine-ah]

33. ya know and they wonder about all of the freaks with the

child porn on the internet.

This is just soooo wrong. It's like the Vicki Secrets catalog. some of the girls have NO hips, and pretty much nothing for breasts (some of them do, but not all) and they look like they are 14 years old. It's just wrong, even if they are 18, it's the fact they look like they are 14.

[LeftyMom]

62. It creeps me out too.

I saw thongs in the little girls' section at Penneys as small as size 4T. Call me crazy, but little kids fresh out of diapers should have underpants with cartoons and flowers on them, not thongs. I asked the lady behind the counter what the hell the idea was and she tried to explain that little girls need them because of the hip huggers that were the style at the time (this was about three years ago) to keep thier underwear from showing. Now call me crazy, but it's nuts to make and sell pants that require special underwear to three and four year old girls, doubly crazy to sell hip huggers to kids who are ten years away from having hips and triply crazy that people buy such things.

I walked out and haven't shopped there since.

I'm glad I sew, because from what I've seen of girls' clothing sections these days one would be hard pressed not to dress thier daughter like a pint-sized hooker with what's on the racks. It can be done, but I really don't want to have to stop at five or six stores and spend nearly a whole Saturday shopping to get one reasonably modest back to school wardrobe, as my best friend and I had to for her step-daughter last year.

[joneschick]

72. double click. do not enter

[joneschick]

73. this is at least partially why I went into fashion design

got the degree. no job. I'm not talking about the "modest design" of the fundies. How 'bout "reasonable design" for no junior sluts! I'll get my flame suit ready.

[Beaverhausen]

12. Photoshop to the max

that isn't just make-up.

[arwalden]

14. Publicity photos for baby beauty pageant contestants...

... probably retouched and digitally airbrushed... but the underlying reality is that these pre-schoolers are being made up to look like adults. It's really creepy.

[Beaverhausen]

16. Oh I agree- those pageants are sick

the parents of these poor girls are sicker!

[Left Is Write]

23. I'd have to agree. The eyes are absolutely vacant.

[Beaverhausen]

55. and their eyes/faces are symmetrical. No one's face is symmetrical

I think that is what makes it so creepy.

[noonwitch]

17. My mom made us wait until 9th grade for anything but lip gloss

I was 13 in 9th grade. We were allowed to wear makeup for Halloween or when we were little and playing dress up.

I also had to be 13 to get my ears pierced. I might have issues with my mom, but she was right in both these circumstances.

I saw that documentary about the child beauty queens and it made me so sad. Those girls in the pictures are probably very cute little girls without all that crap on their faces.

[terrya]

18. Those child beauty pageants are creepy.

Seeing those pictures of Jon-Benet Ramsey with makeup was disturbing.

So, how old was she and other girls like her? 6? 7?

That's too young.

[gollygee]

19. Ewwwww

that is super creepy.

I do let my 4-year-old play with makeup. She begged and begged for makeup so I got her some kids makeup and she just puts lipstick all over her face and then we wash it off.

[KittyWampus]

82. I hope you get some pictures before you wiped it off her face

:)

Sounds really precious.

I didn't play with lipstick when little, but did wear my chocolate pudding well :D

[Misunderestimator]

20. Those are plastic right?!?

If not... Ugh.

[Left Is Write]

21. Those pictures look like dolls, not people.

My daughter is six. I let her wear lipgloss sometimes, just for fun, and I polish her fingernails and toenails for her. She's very "girly", for lack of a better word.

Anything else? She'll have to be older. I don't know exactly how much older. My older daughter started wearing makeup in earnest at about 14, as did I.

[arwalden]

24. Is She Asking For Collagen Injections Yet?

I hope your answer will be "NO".

[Left Is Write]

32. Just Say No To Collagen

[Love Bug]

39. Actually, those are her real lips

She's always had them, just like Angelina Jolie.

[Left Is Write]

60. I've seen "before" pictures.

[Left Is Write]

61. Here's a before and after side-by-side...

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/005610.html

You'll have to click on the link; remote linking is not allowed.

Here's another after:




Watching her last fall on her soap talk show, I saw several episodes where she looked liked she'd had recent injections - her top lip was very swollen and looked like it was about to pop. It was particularly noticable. It looked as though someone had hit her.

She does have naturally full lips. That does not mean that she hasn't enhanced them in the last few years.

[blue neen]

68. She was a really pretty woman in the "before" pics.

Now her lips just make her look creepy.

[arwalden]

Baby Applying Her OWN Lipstick (Photo)

[Left Is Write]

25. Ha! I have a picture like that...

My daughter, age two at the time, got into my purse...

[arwalden]

26. A Pageant Judge Would SURELY Vote For That...

... any contestant who applies her OWN makeup gets bonus points for effort!!

[Left Is Write]

27. LOL!

Not that they'll get the chance. My baby's not entering any pageants!

[u4ic]

22. I seen a documentary about child beauty pageants

a couple of years ago. Very, very disturbing. The whole mindset...just... :scared: :scared::scared:

Isn't it lovely, teach them from a young age that their looks are what matters most. :puke:

[LynneSin]

51. I forget the name but it was on HBO - and those people are sick

These mothers would work 3-4 jobs in order to play all the money needed to get these girls in beauty pageants (which isn't a profitable business - most girls if they win rarely win more than a few hundred dollars per pageant). The worst is the stuff they do to these girls. It's more than just makeup. Little girls have hair that is too fine for the fancy hairdos and teeth too babyish like for that perfect beauty queen smile.

I'm so glad my mother never tortured me like this

[gollygee]

29. I just realized that their eyebrows have been waxed

OUCH. A child that age shouldn't have to have her eyebrows waxed.

[laheina]

53. OMG! I think that you are right.

Actually, considering the mentality of that whole group of people, I'm *sure* that you are right.

[KitchenWitch]

30. MMM

Two more "JonBenet Ramsey"'s

[LynneSin]

34. Perhaps if they just let this little girl live her own life

[arwalden]

35. Do You Think They're Having FUN??

Are they all excited about getting to play dress-up and wear make-up like a grown-up?

Or are they just trick ponies that are trapped into performing at the insistence of their mothers (who are actually the ones enjoying living a fantasy through their children)?

[terrya]

38. I think it's a form of child abuse

Children are...children. Not little adults.

Somewhere along the way, they were "encouraged" to get into this kind of stuff. And at the risk of being judgemental, it's wrong. Period.

[progmom]

40. choice number two

i was at a conference a few years ago that was taking place in the same hotel as one of those nasty pageants. the mothers, at least the ones i witnessed, were all nasty control freaks. interestingly, they almost all were considerably overweight, and all had nasty, pinched looking faces. the husbands followed behind, with hang-dog looks on their faces... and the children were constantly being yelled at.


it was depressing.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

36. Please tell me those are dolls...

It's creepy either way. One is just more creepy.

[NewWaveChick1981]

43. These "beauty queen" children are entirely too scary!

From JonBenet Ramsey on up, it just freaks me out to see girls made up in that fashion. :scared: It's creepy and sends all the wrong signals.

I think 13 is an OK age to start wearing natural-looking makeup. Maybe lip gloss prior to that, but nothing else.

Edited to add: Forgot to say that these girls did NOT apply their makeup themselves, which means an adult had to do it. That's even scarier.

[blue neen]

44. They also have the little girls wear fake teeth

for the pageants. FAKE TEETH! This pageant b.s. is twisted.

[NewWaveChick1981]

46. That's total BS!

Kiddie beauty pageants are freaky. The fake teeth thing is just terrible. :puke: There was an HBO documentary a few years back (can't remember the name of it) that showed the behind-the-scenes stuff of kiddie beauty pageants, and it made me physically sick to watch it. It's child abuse, IMO.

[blue neen]

47. The stage mothers always say,

"But my daughter enjoys it so much!"

Right.

[NewWaveChick1981]

48. Yeah. Guess who pushed them into in the first place???

The kids HAVE to say they enjoy it or Mommie Dearest gets out the wire hangers.... :scared:

[BikeWriter]

45. Forty if it's my kid!

[TheBaldyMan]

49. If you are a man, you will never be old enough.

[SacredCow]

50. Beyond creepy...

I remember seeing a documentary on this a while back... Followed several families who were involved. Invariably, the parents were using all kinds of sick methods to force their kids to participate (up to and including, "If you won't cooperate with me, then you don't love me." You could see how much these little girls hated the stress and pressure. It's a form of abuse, if you ask me.

[lumberingbear]

54. In answer to your original question, arwalden......

Yes, you are old enough to wear make-up. :evilgrin:




























:hide: :P

[arwalden]

58. Oh... ya big screwball!

:rofl: :hi:

[khashka]

63. I'm with lumberingbear

Yes, arwalden you are old enough to wear make up. I'd avoid lipstick, though. Personally, I find it very irritating.

Which reminds me.... call one of my boyfriends a "screwball" again and I swear I'll rip off your fake eyelashes. lumberingbear is a goofball and a very sweet one :)

Khash.

[lumberingbear]

65. Ahhhh Khash

you sweet sexy little devil you. :evilgrin:

[khashka]

74. Mr. Bear

You never did porn did you?
Cuz I found this website and the guy had the most striking resemblance....
And I was thinking "Oh baby, baby, baby! YES!"

(Ok, Khash, a little restraint is a good thing. Actually a lot of restraint is an even better thing - handcuffs, rope, manacles..... Stop it! Khash, sexual come-ons work better with a little subtlety....)

Khash.

[lumberingbear]

78. ROFLMAO!!!!

Khash you kill me! No I have never done porn. Maybe it was hidden cameras.

(PM me with that website and I'll tell you if the guy looks like me)

[elehhhhna]

56. here in Texas the black eyeliner goes on thick at 13/14

but not in this house.

maybe some light mascara when the time comes. maybe.

[skygazer]

57. They don't even look real

They look like plastic dolls. One thing that people tend to forget (if they ever knew it) is that children weren't really treated like a separate age group until about the Victorian era (at least in Britain and the Americas). They were dressed like little adults and expected to act pretty much like them, particularly in wealthy families (everyone here must have seen some of those odd old portraits showing children dressed in adult looking finery and wearing powdered wigs). Children worked as a matter of course and it never occurred to anyone that it was wrong.

The Victorians pretty much invented childhood. And now we have these people who put their little kids in these pageants and make them look like adults all over again.

Makes you wonder what kind of progress we've made. :banghead:

[caty]

59. I think twelve is young enough.

A little lipstick at twelve. Then add a little eye liner at fourteen. I hate to see girls start wearing liquid make up or powder because it can clog up their pores and cause break outs and dry skin. Make up should "enhance" their looks---not "be" their looks.

[NewJeffCT]

64. My daughter is 3 now, so I say when she goes to college

But, I'm sure she'll be doing it before that.

[fleabert]

66. check out this link...photo retouching crap...

http://www.glamouretouching.com/

shitty site, look for the link to pageant, on the right side, reading upwards.

sickening.

[EstimatedProphet]

67. Oh my god! Are they real?

[beyurslf]

69. 6 mos old is too young.

[0007]

70. Argh!!

[NMDemDist2]

71. pre teenager and those pics are just

*wrong* somehow, ya know what I mean?

[Scout]

75. Forty-two. n/t

[philosophie_en_rose]

76. 12.

That is all. Anything more than playing at 12 is too soon. Anything more than lipgloss before 15 is too soon.

I'm not that old, and I think young women should play and experiment with makeup. But no one - especially young girls - should feel that they have to wear makeup to be beautiful.

[JVS]

77. Is that make-up or airbrushing?

I suspect some airbrush action!

[liontamer]

80. it depends on the attitude towards makeup

I played with makeup when I was three. I liked the pretty colors. I never felt like I had to wear it to be pretty.( I still don't much to my mother's chagrin.) I would never have done myself up like those girls. (and of course they couldn't have done that to themelves either.)