Gwyneth Paltrow named her son MOSES? Seriously, what do you think?

[Radio_Lady]

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph! I don't understand it. Do you?

"Apple and Moses are out to play. Hey, hey, hey, HEY!" said Gwyneth today.

All I could think of was the old refrain about "Moses supposes his 'toeses' are roses."

http://inhome.rediff.com/movies/2006/apr/11look.htm

[Deja Q]

1. She should have named him Adam...

That way we can make all sorts of lewd jokes about Adam eating the apple... :puke:

:yoiks:

[Radio_Lady]

4. You know, even the name Adam breaks a famous alliteration rule.

Your child should NOT have a first name that has a final letter that is the SAME as the first letter of your FAMILY name. It's because of the auditory liaison between the two names, causing immense confusion.

So, AdaM Martin == say it to yourself a couple of times. It sounds like Adam _Artin. See what I mean?

I was married to a man named Peter whose second name began with an "R" -- people thought his name was something different every time. Eventually, he just used "Pete" because of the confusion, and still had to spell his second name.

Actually, I thought a nice combination would be PIER or PIERRE -- you know, APPLE and (PEAR)? Fruit salad tonight!

In fun,

Radio_Lady in Oregon

[serryjw]

17. That's clever

I didn't know that but it makes sense

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

78. Damn.. I guess I messed up naming my kid.

Alexander R., but we always call him Alex.

[Radio_Lady]

82. Don't sweat it -- what's done is done. My grandson's middle name

is Alexander. I wish my stepson Michael hadn't name his kid Michael (with different middle names). It's really been a trial to have to distinguish between the two.

[serryjw]

16. NOW that's funny!

n/t

[Radio_Lady]

27. UPDATE: I just got the joke: Adam's Apple!

Better late than never.

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. Her father was Jewish,

I'm not sure about her mom. Perhaps it was her grandfather's name.

I try not to be too judgemental about these things. If my mom & dad had decided to re-use family names, I could have ended up with Zora Wilhelmina. Seriously.

fsc

[redwitch]

5. I have a friend who is Beatrice Wilhelmina

nt

[Radio_Lady]

6. Well, my daughter named her son Solomon --

Her husband's beloved Jewish grandfather died during her pregnancy. His name was Solomon. (Traditional Jews re-use the name ONLY after death.)

So my five year old grandson is Solomon Zachary. It's a pretty old-fashioned name! But he's a very NEW FASHIONED kid! How about this little dude?

[fudge stripe cookays]

8. Check out the eyelashes on that kid!

I always have a thing for pretty long eyelashes, no matter who they're on, since God saw fit to stiff me in that department.

How you doing, Radio Lady?
:hi:
fsc

[redwitch]

10. I like his name!

I also think he has purty eyes! Look at those lashes!

[Radio_Lady]

12. The only thing I don't like is the diminutive --

Nobody should be known as "SOLLY" -- sounds too much like Asian mispronunciation of "SORRY..." but that's just my opinion.

I wanted my daughter to name him Zachary Solomon, because I like Zack as a male name. Their last name is an old-fashioned Jewish name, too. Consequently, most of the people with his FULL COMMON NAME are on the Social Security Death Index. No kiddin' -- I checked!

[serryjw]

19. TRY Serry!

You should see my mail. Terry, Perry, Sherry, Sari. My wedding invitations ended up Sherry!

Can you imagine the jokes this kids is going to have to endure..."Moses did you part the Red Sea"

[Radio_Lady]

26. Serry? Is that your given name? Never heard that one!

You must get a lot of confusion.

My stepdaughter is Cindy. NOT Cynthia -- but Cindy.

We all have pretty common names, Ellen, Allen (changed from Alvin), Michael, Karen, Cindy, Linda and David.

My son has two little boys. He is a Mormon, and he gave the children his name, David Scott, as two middle names.

Our grandkids are Nicholas David and Tyler Scott.

Good choices, IMHO.

[serryjw]

44. Yes, In the Jewish faith

we name kids after the dead. My full name is Serry Jane (like Mary Jane). I was named after an Aunt Jenny and Sara.
My nephew is Billy NOT William. He was named after my mother Billie!

[Radio_Lady]

46. Whoa. That's some serious name scrunching going on in your family.

Was your mother concerned that the two dead aunts would come back and haunt her if she had used the names in sequence? -- Jenny Sara (last name) or Sara Jenny (last name) both seem OK to me. (Kind of like THE DREAM of Fruma Sarah in "Fiddler on the Roof"?)

I kind of like the name "Senna" -- although it's a color name, it's also the main ingredient in laxatives.

My whole family is Jewish by birth, so I understand the traditions. However, the five kids are all over the lot from my daughter who is almost Orthodox -- to my son, who has been baptized a Mormon.

My husband had a bit of a fit when his son Michael S. named our grandson Michael A.A. -- but we've gotten used to it. "Big" Michael married a lapsed Italian Catholic gal so he wanted the name kept up, I guess. They never had another child. "Little" Michael is now 17 years old and I think he must be taller than his father -- we'll see when we visit next year.

http://daddytypes.com/

Here's the topic discussed at the web site above.

April 11, 2006
Her Name Is Rio: Turning Song Lyrics Into Baby Names
categories: names
Well, let's see, there's...

Jenny
China
Eileen
Jude
Rose
Frances
Polly
Apple

Sue
Paul Revere
Nasty
Ricky
Wordy Rappinghood
Emo
Gary
Moses

I think I need to open this one up...

MORE COMMENTS AT LINK --- >

[serryjw]

57. They were trying to be creative

and I have spent a lifetime spelling my name...go figure?

[Radio_Lady]

64. Serry, when I named my daughter, I wanted her NOT to have to spell it.

I had pretty much settled on Linda (Spanish word for "BEAUTIFUL" and an old hit song from the 1940s, which I sang for her as a lullaby when she was a baby.) I decided on the regular spelling, as there were others who were spelling it LYNDA, after President Johnson's daughter LYNDA BIRD JOHNSON.

However, I've always like the name Dina, but pronunciation issues were complicated. Some people sounded it as DEE-nah, which I preferred, as in Dina Merrill (a well-known actress at the time); others said it like DIE-nah -- a Southern pronunciation which was not to my liking. Obviously, I didn't want to add the final "H" as in Dinah Shore or Dinah Washington, two deceased singers.

Eventually, I named her Linda Michelle (She had a last name that she always had to spell.) The alternate was Dina Suzanne.
I think I made the right choice.

My son got David Scott. Alternate was Daniel Kenneth (which I still like). David was about the sixth child in his kindergarten class with the same first name.

Eventually, I told them both, "If you don't like your name, just change it." But that never happened. (My husband was named "ALVIN" and had a Russian last name, which he wanted to Americanize. Eventually, we all changed the last name, and at the same time, he took the name ALLEN. Simple procedure in Massachusetts court, as long as you're not trying to escape the law or evade your debts.)

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[YellowRubberDuckie]

72. You're thinking Sienna.

Not Senna....(the color):hi:

[Radio_Lady]

75. You're right! Senna is the laxative -- sienna is the color...

but I think what confused me is the make-up named SENNA -- Eugenia Weston developed the line and it's been around since 1976!

http://www.sennacosmetics.com/prostores/servlet/StoreFront

Thanks for the correction, nevertheless!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sienna

[redwitch]

22. Sol is nice.

My dad had a friend named Sol Feinstone. One of the sweetest men I have ever met. Probably why I like the name!

[Radio_Lady]

28. Sol Feinstone! He was the Jewish butcher who gave me good tongue!

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he sold me that beautiful diamond ring in New York City. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Anyway, we're getting used to Solomon, the five year old. He's such a cute kid, they could have called him any name and I would have loved him!

So let's see what I get at www.switchboard.com now.

Oh, there are now 27 people -- who have the same name -- listed in the U.S. telephone directories! That's interesting and a surprise!

[redwitch]

45. Hey Radio Lady! Let me tell you about Sol Feinstone...

I was a little girl when I met him, and he was in his late seventies-early eighties. He came to this country from Poland when he was a young man. He was penniless.
The coins tossed to him in steerage from the "upper" decks enabled him to land in NYC and buy some bread. He never forgot the kindness of the lady who gave him more than his penny's worth of bread when he was hungry. In the course of his life he amassed a fortune by working really , really hard and there was no greater American patriot than Sol Feinstone. He founded the David Library of the American Revolution in Bucks County, PA. My family went to visit him and his wife Rose on Fire Island when I was little. We walked to the bird sanctuary on the island and were halfway back when we bummed a ride from a cop in a dune buggy who was passing. We were all so tired. My parents at the time were in their late 40's/early fifties. Sol was in his late eighties and he walked to the sanctuary and back every morning. He really was a most impressive man. I'm not sure how he and my dad met, possibly through the newspaper where my dad worked at the time. But I will always remember him and as he is the one and only Sol I have ever known, the name sounds to me to be strong and capable. It's a really good name!

[Radio_Lady]

47. What a delightful story! It's interesting how a name can stay with you

and color all your memories for someone with that name some other time.

There is one fellow at CBS, a Jewish producer for "60 Minutes" whose name is listed as Solly Granatstein on the program. I assume his name is Solomon, and he is just using the familiar spelling, but who knows? I guess that's like Katherine Couric became "Katie" Couric.

[redwitch]

53. my ex sister in law was a teacher

she had a whole list of names NOT to name your baby! Based on nothing but her experience with one or two problem children of course! One of my favorite names for a woman is Genevieve- have only known them to be beautiful, unusual and "uppity"!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

71. Her parents really didn't like her, did they?

[texas1928]

3. They better watch her and make sure she does not...

Float him down the LA river in a basket.

[Radio_Lady]

7. LOL! If he becomes Doctor Moses Martin, his famous advice will be ----

"Take two tablets and call me in the morning!"

[fudge stripe cookays]

9. B'doom CHHHHHHH!!!!

:D

[Radio_Lady]

11. Oh, those cookies look good. Yum! How ya doin' in Texas?

Haven't seen ya around the DU, but it's easy to get lost in all the forums and the journals.

I went to see "The Wild" a new Disney movie with my grandson today.

I'll post a review on Friday. The colors were by Crayola, but the story was pure crapola, I'm sorry to say. Disney and Pixar's adventure "The Wild" is pretty tame, and lacking a backbone story.

The website for this movie boasts that "418 people (spent) 1.5 million work hours to complete 'The Wild'" -- this may go down as one of the biggest wastes of time in moviemaking history. It ain't no "Shrek."

http://adisney.go.com/disneypictures/thewild/index.html

[fudge stripe cookays]

38. Been swamped!

Got laid off back in September, so laid around on my butt for 4 months TOTALLY enjoying it.

Got a new job in early February, and have been working like mad to get out a User Guide and online Help for this new company.

Can't wait for May to get here.

[Floogeldy]

13. How could you understand?

You don't know her. You're not there. Not that you would have preferred "Jesus." ;)

[Radio_Lady]

29. You're right, of course. Wonder if Blythe and Gwyneth put their

heads together on this one! I have to read the backstory -- maybe today.

[mitchum]

14. I thought the trend for giving kids pawnbroker names (Max, Sam,etc...)...

peaked about 10 years ago?
Aren't we now in the era of the English sheepdog name (Taylor, Madison, etc...)

[Radio_Lady]

25. The comedian Sam Levinson used to say, "If you call Sam ---

-- you get a horse." I think that was part of his comedy routine back in the 1950s or 60s.

http://www.brooklyn.cuny.edu/bc/ahp/Levinson.html

[fudge stripe cookays]

39. Chortle!

I hadn't that of it that way, but you're right! :thumbsup:

[CottonBear]

15. Moses was my Grandfather's name and his son's name. It's a fine name. n/t

[Floogeldy]

18. That's how Mo from The Three Stooges got his name.

:)

[lavenderdiva]

20. this information on WHY she and husband Chris Martin chose the name...

from Entertainment Tonight website: link: http://et.tv.yahoo.com/newslink/14410/

Gwyneth's second child made his grand entrance at a New York-area hospital on Sunday, and the name Moses has a personal meaning to the happy parents.

Chris wrote the song titled "Moses" especially for Gwyneth and performed it with his Brit band COLDPLAY. The song also appears on the group's Live 2003 album.

And here are the lyrics to 'Moses' by Coldplay: link: http://www.lyrics007.com/Coldplay%20Lyrics/Moses%20Lyrics.html

Verse 1:
come on now, don't you want to see
this thing that's happening to me
like moses has power over sea
so you've got power over me

Verse 2:
come on now don't you want to know
you're a refuge, somewhere i can go
you're air that, air that i can breathe
you're my golden opportunity

Chorus:
and oh, oh yes i would
if i only could
and you know i would
and baby i, oh baby i
i wish

Verse 3:
come on now, don't you want to see
just what a difference you've made in me
i'll be waiting oh no matter what you say
cause i've been waiting for days and days and days

Chorus:
and oh, oh yes i would
if i only could
and you know i would
and baby i, oh baby i
i wish
i wish

Bridge:
oh, oh, oh
oh, oh, oh
if the sky's gonna fall down let it fall on me
if you're gonna break down you can break on me
if the sky's gonna fall down let it fall on me
if it's gonna rain down it can rain on me
it can rain on me

[Radio_Lady]

31. Thanks for the melody. I'm not that UP on Chris Martin and "Coldplay"

She named him after a song lyric.

Well, come to think of it, I named my daughter Linda MICHELLE after the song "Michelle" in the 1960s.

Still not convinced he won't get teased with what the reporter wrote in the first link:

It's a "playground unfriendly" name. I'm just thinking about the teasibility factor!

[donheld]

21. Holy Moses, that makes this woman moses grandma

[Radio_Lady]

32. Good one, donheld! Blythe Danner is the grandma of Moses!

Wonder how she feels about that! What about Chris' mother?

[ScreamingMeemie]

23. I think it's a wonderful name. I have a dear friend named Moses.

he has no special powers to part seas or talk to flaming shrubbery, but he is a kind human being. :hi:

[Radio_Lady]

33. Nice comment! By the way, is it Passover yet?

[Left Is Write]

55. Passover began at sundown tonight.

[Radio_Lady]

67. Yes. Thanks. I have calendars with only US and Christian holidays.

Plus a big beautiful scroll 2006 Chinese Calendar which we picked up in Victoria, BC, Canada's Chinatown last August.

[AngryAmish]

24. She should have named him Skinner

I'm such an ass kisser.

[Radio_Lady]

34. Well, given my druthers, I'm glad that Ass Kisser wasn't considered.

I once did dog training for a man who owned an Afghan Hound and kept it tied to a coffee table in his New York apartment. (NO COMMENT...)

He referred to his own child, a sweet little toddler, as BEAST BABY. She was just learning to talk, too. I don't remember the dog's name.

Some people shouldn't have pets or children.

[Sugar Smack]

30. I like the name "Moses". Naming your baby "Apple", though?

That's just rude.

[Radio_Lady]

35. Well, Apple Martin looks like something from a seed catalog.

Moses Martin? Now, if it were Moses Martini, that might make it more palatable.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

73. Gwyneth's dad used to call her the Apple of his Eye.

So she named her daughter Apple. I think it's sweet. We name girls Iris and Rose. Why not Apple? I think it's a cute name.
Duckie

[Radio_Lady]

76. Thanks, Duckie -- I like your positive viewpoint!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

81. I think I heard that on Oprah...

She was on there after Apple was born.
Duckie

[bigwillq]

36. So now you think celebrity bashing is cool?

:shrug:

[Radio_Lady]

48. No. We're just batting names around here, BigWillQ...

What are you up to today?

My big job of the day was washing and drying a queen-size comforter at a commercial laundry and talkin' to two other nice ladies.

It was just beautiful in Portland today. How is it wherever you are?

Warm regards,

Radio_Lady

[bigwillq]

52. We are getting slammed at work!

:mad:

Been like this all week. And we're done 2 men.



It was warm and sunny for most of the day here in CT then it got chilly. I can't wait for spring to really get here.

[Radio_Lady]

60. I love Connecticut. Used to work for a company with HQ in --

Stamford, Connecticut. Hubby and I once drove the Boston Post Road (Route 20 in Massachusetts) all the way through Connecticut. I've been to Darien (one of my managers used to live there), Greenwich (pretty and busy and expensive main street) and even out to the west for a couple of trade shows I had to cover.

Spring starts in Portland, Oregon in late February with forsythia out by first week in March. This year everything was earlier -- including the cherry trees. Now the tulips and daffodils are up.

Portland has milder winter weather and virtually no snow -- even thought it's at about the same latitude as the New England states. People think it rains all the time, but that is not true. After mid-June to early July and up to around October 15, there is ABSOLUTELY NO RAIN. We have to have a sprinkler system for our lawn and shrubs.

What you do lose is bright sunlight. For example, Boston has two sunny days out of every three; Portland has only one sunny day out of three.

I moved here on April 4, 1998 and just celebrated my eighth anniversary as an Oregonian! My husband got here earlier, October 12, 1997 to start a job. Although I was terribly homesick for the first six months (We were living in a one-bedroom apartment, and I had NO JOB and NO CAR for about a month, but was helpful to my daughter who had a newborn baby.) Now we're really settled and it feels good!

Photo of the ONLY SNOW DAY (March 9, 2006) we had in Portland in all of winter 2005-2006 -- about two inches that was completely melted the next day! The kids in the neighborhood had a ball -- no school! There were about 10 snowmen assembled in just 24 hours in our area.

[Shell Beau]

37. Apparently her husband wrote a song for her with that name

in it or it was the title of the song or something like that.

[npincus]

40. I have a friend named Moses...

Moses..Lourdes.... Many WAY more popular names come from the bible: Sarah, mary, Adam, Joseph to name a few.

I feel sory for kids of celebs, always liveing in the shadow of a famous parent.

[Bridget Burke]

41. Frank Zappa named his kids Dweezil & Moon Unit.

Frank is more important to me than Gwyneth--but why chastise her for picking a more "normal" name?

In fact, Moses is more common than Gwyneth.

[Radio_Lady]

50. Good point. You've convinced me.

[LSK]

42. you got it all wrong, she named him after Moses Malone

The basketball center of long ago.

[Ilsa]

59. Ooooh Moses! Moses, Moses!

[Radio_Lady]

68. Anne Baxter, actress -- did you know she was the daughter of

the architect Frank Lloyd Wright?

[Shine]

43. I think she can name her kids whatever she wants.

It's not that big of a deal to me, personally.

:hi:

[Radio_Lady]

51. Righto! Thanks for the wave, Shine!

[NoSheep]

49. I have known several men named Moses. Sorry.

[Radio_Lady]

54. Just saw the touring company of "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor

Dreamcoat" in Portland.

Now, guys -- name all of the twelve sons of Jacob in the Bible:

Twelve Tribes

General Information

Jacob

In the Bible, Jacob was the grandson of Abraham and Sarah, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, and the traditional ancestor of all Israel. Jacob obtained his prominence in the line of Abraham by tricking his elder twin brother Esau out of both his birthright and his paternal blessing (Gen. 25:29-34; 27:1-41). As he fled from the enraged Esau, Jacob had a dream at Bethel of angels ascending and descending a ladder to heaven (Gen. 28:10-22). He married his cousins Rachel and Leah and worked 20 years for their father, Laban, in Haran. He later wrestled with an angel, who gave him the name Israel (Gen. 32:22-32), and was reconciled with Esau. Jacob's 12 sons were the ancestors of the 12 tribes of Israel; Jacob's favorite was Joseph.

From Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyrics, "Jacob & Sons"

NARRATOR:

Way way back many centuries ago, not long after the Bible began
Jacob lived in the land of Canaan, a fine example of a family man
Jacob, Jacob and sons, depended on farming to earn their keep
Jacob, Jacob and sons, spent all of their days in the fields with sheep

Jacob was the founder of a whole new nation,
Thanks to the number of children he'd had
He was also known as Israel but most of the time
His sons and his wives used to call him dad
Jacob, Jacob and sons, men of the soil, of the sheaf and crook
Jacob, Jacob and sons, a remarkable family in anyone's book

Reuben was the eldest of the children of Israel,
With Simeon and Levi the next in line
Napthali and Isaachar with Asher and Dan,
Zebulun and Gad took the total to nine
Jacob, Jacob and sons, Benjamin and Judah, which leaves only one
Jacob, Jacob and sons, Joseph -- Jacob's favorite son
Jacob, Jacob and sons

[Hardrada]

56. Biblical names are really neglected these days.

You have no Samsons or Nehemiahs or Elijahs anymore amongst the populace. But I did run across someone lately whose wife was Bathsheba!! Could that be?

[Left Is Write]

62. I know a lovely woman who has an almost 7-year-old named Elijah.

And there's Elijah Wood, of course. :)

As for Moses...I didn't really see it as any different than Noah, another well-known Old Testament name.

[Shell Beau]

63. I like Noah and have considered naming a boy that if I have one!

[Radio_Lady]

79. Biblical names are very popular among my daughter's friends.

Some of them are quite unique. They are Noah, Eli, Simon, Benjamin, Isiah, Hannah, Sarah, and others I can't remember that are IMPOSSIBLY unique. One woman named her daughter after an Egyptian queen (not Cleopatra).

Shoshana is my granddaughter's middle name, but my daughter has a friend who was in her wedding who named her daughter Shoshana as a first name. They call her "Shoshie" and unfortunately her last name also has an "SH" sound in it, too. It's difficult to hear the two names together and not give a chuckle.

[Ilsa]

58. I'm more into New Testament names. Would rather had given them

trust funds, but I don't have the $.

My kids have NT names: Stephen (first Christian martyr) and Matthew. Heck, I like the names. So does my husband.

A good name is the best gift for a kid. So is a trust fund, if you can swing it, and we couldn't so we had to settle for good names.

[Radio_Lady]

80. Just to even things up, my Jewish sister-in-law named her sons

Scott and Matthew. The names go well with their Americanized Polish name.

Who can afford trust funds for their kids? Not in our middle-class family.

[nini]

61. I think it's her business and who the hell cares?

I know a couple people named Moses. One personally.. the other being Moses Malone.


An old name to be sure, but not that strange.

[Radio_Lady]

83. I don't really care that much. Just something to talk about on a nice

spring night.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[WI_DEM]

65. Who cares?

[wildhorses]

66. WOW!!! I had been thinking she should name it Pear, also

but, I wanted it to be short for Aperitif...
which I think would be cool
I actually have gotten used to Apple
and like it....weird names run in my family so, it was not as "shocking" to me.

[Spirochete]

69. She's getting revenge on the world

for being named Gwyneth.

[applegrove]

70. I think Mericains are the only people uptight about hierarchy in

christian or religious baby names. I mean the forzen chosen tradition of which I am descended. Serious, how many jesus are there alreay in America? 100,000 or more? Relax. Why wouldn't you name someone after someone you admired?

[no name no slogan]

74. Moses is a common name in many parts of the world

"Musa" (Arabic for Moses) is a popular name in middle-eastern and Islamic countries. I think it's an okay name-- much better than Apple, for example.

[swag]

77. It's impossible to care.

[Radio_Lady]

84. Time's up! I guess I'll finish with this thought. I would have been more

distressed if Gwyneth had named her first child Apple, her second child, Banana, and then told the world she was expecting a third child which she intended to name Canteloupe. Her reasoning? She was going to teach them their place in the alphabet by lining them up against a wall.

I'd think she was pretty FRUITY then...

Good night, and good luck,

Radio_Lady