Tom Cruise in birth control - reminds wife of vow of silence during birth

[The Straight Story]

Cruise in birth control

By JULIE MOULT

TOM Cruise’s pregnant fiancée Katie Holmes will be reminded to keep her vow of silence during birth — by signs plastered around their home.

The couple — following the Scientology tradition of a silent birth — had the posters delivered to their Beverly Hills mansion.

The 6ft placards will be placed so Katie can see them in labour.

One reads: “Be silent and make all physical movements slow and understandable.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006140204,00.html

(not sure if posted or not, was during a search and it timed out, apologies if already posted)

[mondo joe]

1. How about a "slow and understandable" middle finger?

[DS1]

I think I figured this out

If she makes a noise he'll turn around and divorce her for not following his religion - and try to keep the baby as Scientology's "Neo"

[Warpy]

43. I'd choose a slow and understandable divorce lawyer

and the child support I'd demand would be magnificent.

This is spousal abuse. Period.

[LynneSin]

51. They're not married yet

:D

[bettyellen]

83. okay, i hope they aren't that smart.....

because that would would mean you are thinking like a scientologist.
:scared:

[Jack Rabbit]

2. It's Katie's business

. . . but I'm glad I'm not getting married to that control freak.

Anybody want to start a pool on how long this lasts?

[waiting for hope]

4. 6 Months tops.....

[Jack Rabbit]

9. Six months . . . do I hear a calling off the wedding?

[proud patriot]

66. I'm thinking Nicole was a smart lady to leave Tom right now

:think:

[im10ashus]

67. When did it begin?

This is all a publicity stunt for him. She's simply drank the Kool-Aid and cashed the check.

[Crunchy Frog]

3. I hope she rips his balls off during labor.

He'd better keep his fucking mouth shut while she's doing it too.

[waiting for hope]

14. Amen!

I unexpectedly had natural childbirth with my second, was not prepared for it...I almost broke my husband's hand....What's with that crap about silence anyway? What if she needs to communicate something really important medically? I literally had to tell my POS Dr that the baby was coming before she poked her head down there and said, Gee, you're 10 cm and fully diliated...NO SHIT LADY.

[tanyev]

5. Can she silently punch his lights out?

Poor Katie.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

8. No poor Katie .

Nobody is making her do this but her .

[ugarte]

16. Yes and no. The Scientologists have run her brain through the wringer..nt

[tanyev]

25. I know, but I have to believe she didn't fully realize what

she was getting into.

[ugarte]

30. Is that ever an understatement!

I bet she feels like Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby.

[MadHound]

6. Here is what poor Katie should do

When dear Tommie boy comes close to Katie, in order to impart some sort of "wisdom" or such, Katie should silently, but strongly reach out, latch onto Tom's sac, and squeeze for all she's worth. It would be a great stress relief for her since she won't have the outlet of actualy making any utterances.

[wtmusic]

12. Tom also has taken a vow of silence (while getting his sac squeezed)

Should be an interesting moment. :popcorn:

[MadHound]

35. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking

Two people in immense pain, yet neither can utter a thing. Should be fun times for the doc, midwife or whomever has the pleasure of sitting in on this one.

[NewWaveChick1981]

7. I'd like for Tom to try to keep silent while passing a

watermelon out of his urethra. :) What a crock of shit!

[Neil Lisst]

10. he's crazy!

[Left Is Write]

11. When Tom gives birth, then he can decide how the birth should happen.

Until then, HE should be the one to keep a vow of silence.

[louis-t]

13. Would love to be a fly on the wall...

during her labor as she screams obscenities at him. "YOUUU, YOU DID THIS TO ME YOU SON OF A BITCH! DON'T TOUCH ME!" Jeez, where do people come up with these wacky rituals that they force down everyone's throats?

[Javaman]

15. hubbard was batshit crazy. nt

[The Straight Story]

22. Wonder if they have to keep quiet while having sex too,

don't want the sperm or egg to hear anything...

[ugarte]

33. What sex? I think this was an immaculate conception...nt

[blogslut]

28. more like

greedy.

[Rose Siding]

17. I miss Irma Bombeck

She would have had such fun with this.

snip>
The cult’s creator, sci-fi writer {MISTER} L. Ron Hubbard, once said: “Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save both the sanity of the mother and child.”

The doctrine stresses newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or spoken to for seven days.

[Left Is Write]

29. Not speaking to a newborn for seven days seems cruel.

And - if I had been a Scientologist and followed that doctrine (no poking or prodding for medical tests for seven days), my son might have died. He spent his first week in the NICU, being treated with antibiotics for an infection the doctors were never able to identify. I can't tell you how many times he was poked and prodded (blood tests, spinal tap, IV, bilirubin tests...).

[Arkansas Granny]

47. I would think that not speaking to a newborn for seven days would

be akin to sensory deprivation. A baby hears it's mother's voice when in the womb. To deprive it for seven days after birth seems like it would be punishment, not to mention what effect it would have on infant/parent bonding.

As a mother of four, I can tell you that I have never read anything from reliable sources that would suggest that this is a good idea.

[LynneSin]

52. I'd almost agree with you

but these aren't regular folks - this is Tom and Katie. Might be a good think not to hear these two whine nutjobs

[Katherine Brengle]

60. Um, can a Scientologist sue if the baby dies bc of a missed problem?

In the first week of my daughter's life, we made three visits to the hospital--for tests that were able to detect some very early issues that could have potentially become HUGE problems if they weren't dealt with quickly.

[Pastiche423]

77. Aww, I miss her too

When I read your post, an image of her facial expressions ran through my mind. She'd go from shock, to amazement, to disgust in less than a minute.

[elehhhhna]

18. Yeah a third-rate Sci-fi writer as a childbirthing authority. Oy.

[Nobody]

19. What will he do if she does yell?

Just askin'. Inquiring minds want to know.

[AndyA]

20. Tom seems to be incredibly cruel

What a stupid belief - silence during delivery? What point does that serve?

If Tom loved Katie, he would let her scream all she wants to.

Ridiculous. The man is a major freak. Katie would be wise to leave his sorry ass before the baby comes, they'd both be better off.

[Danieljay]

Tom Cruise is a nut case..Watch the South Park Scientology episode here!!

Classic! Tom Cruise "in the closet", Stan the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard!

Article: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=1738153&page=1

Watch this episode here!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t8LkfRkIDk

[Epiphany4z]

21. Katie may be surprised

I know she thinks she is going to be silent but...one never knows. I had one baby with no meds...no problem...the second one!! i made more noise than most first timers...GET ME DRUGS NOW!!!! the witch nurse kept trying to tell me to be quiet...the howling and noise helped me ride out the pain ..i came real close to decking her ...but then the meds came...now that guy I coulda kissed.

[mark11727]

38. I remember when this missus had our second child...

...she was having a very hard time attempting a VBAC, and she reached right up, grabbed the nurse by her scrubs' collar and roared "KNOCK! ME! OUT!"

When the nurse protested that she's need the doctor's consent first, and he was not available at this time, this was followed by "IT'S A BIG HOSPITAL! GO FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR!"

Another cesarean birth later, the missus was resting, with a morphine drip -- I'd never seen her so "happy."

[Ilsa]

23. I wonder how she'll do when her instincts to pick up her crying baby

kick in and he won't permit her to do that.

[shoelace414]

24. I don't blame her, I blame the fruity little club she joined

[LA lady]

26. crazy people

This makes me sick, no wonder L. Ron's son killed himself:

"The doctrine stresses newborns cannot be poked or prodded for medical tests or spoken to for seven days."

[nini]

27. I have no sympathy for her unless she walks away from that nutcase

If she's staying with him then she's participating in this shit.

Why hasn't she left?

[ugarte]

32. You're assuming she has free will and her wits about her...nt

[nini]

63. I haven't seen where this isn't the case

no one has proven she is brainwashed etc.. I can imagine she's in a tough position, but she's in control of her life and if she has to run in the middle of the night then so be it.

[Danieljay]

31. Perhaps their baby is the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard himself or

perhaps its really an alien baby that wasn't dropped into a volcanoe in Hawaii. Watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t8LkfRkIDk

[dusmcj]

34. They have a few Thetans left to process

No, I am _not_ a member.

[datadiva]

36. Hang him up by his balls and remind him to be silent.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Couldn't help myself!

[NewWaveChick1981]

58. No offense taken whatsoever! Those were my thoughts exactly.

[Horse with no Name]

37. No wonder he and Nicole Kidman adopted

;)

[TlalocW]

39. I'm seriously thinking of starting my own church

Called Servants of Xenu, where our most holy obligation is to find and beat the shit out of scientologists.

TlalocW

[Beaverhausen]

40. And we believe everything printed in The Sun because...?

[The Straight Story]

42. Not just the sun

Google news has quite a few other places carrying it as well.

[guinivere]

41. Kind of makes you hope that Tom has to

pass a kidney stone in silence.



Is silence to be maintained during the signing of the divorce papers?

[TrogL]

44. My wife made a slow and understandable physical movement

She slowly started to break my wrist until I pried her fingers off and let her bend the bedframe instead.

[okieinpain]

45. "Katie Holmes could hold Tom Cruise's testicles" man that's funny

"Perhaps Katie Holmes could hold Tom Cruise's testicles throughout the birth and see if he remains silent!!!"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006140204,00.html

[DrGonzoLives]

46. God willing, this will bring Scientology down

Provided that Katie isn't flaky enough to be totally brainwashed.

[WI_DEM]

48. What a controlling bastard

But Katie Holmes must want to spend a life as his lap dog.

[Swamp Rat]

49. FREAK!

[hyphenate]

50. I'm afraid I'm confused about this crap

And I don't really care. But when did Tommy Boy and Katie the Child finally get married?

And isn't it interesting that Ben Affleck married another Jennifer, and what ever happened to JLO, anyhow? Is she still hanging out with Sean Combs? And honestly, who really gives a fuck about these people? If some of them had talent as actors, we wouldn't be listening to all the fluff pieces about their very surreal lives.

[dogday]

53. Tom, How about I shove a watermelon up your ass

and see how quiet you will be you idiot...

[QuettaKid]

57. you know word on the street is

that the "true believers" think Katie's baby will be the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[dogday]

59. Come to find out they had his sperm

on ice... Katie never knew what hit her :rofl:

[MnFats]

85. sounds a little 'Rosemary's Baby," doesn't it.

creep me out....like we need L. Ron Hubbard's sperm around, or him coming back reincarnated as....well, as anything.

[The Straight Story]

76. Pretty sick, wonder what their vision of the world is?

And where they think it is heading and/or should be?

[ET Awful]

89. Funny, I heard the word on the street is he already tried

the watermelon trick :evilgrin:

[Jack The Tab]

54. A couple of thoughts about Katie, Tom and Scientology...

Katie may well have made her pact with the "devil", like Kidman before her, for more fame and career success, but I believe that she won't last as long as Kidman did in the charade. Something about her (besides this whole scientololgy sham) makes me believe she is too weak to last in the hoax. Maybe she's so weak she'll be completely brainwashed by this cult, but I think she'll ditch the loony tunes Cruise.

The one thing about Scientology that may hinder her, and perhaps others (in the back of their minds) is the fact that the Scientologists have extensive personal files on these people, filled with devastating confessions gained during their cleansing sessions, or whatever they call it. People are expected to confess and divulge the most personal and humiliating experiences, all dutifully recorded by the person administering the session. It makes for very powerful blackmail.

I have no doubt that whatever dark secrets Cruise and the other celebrity scientologists have is one of the factors that keep them in their "religion"

I can't help but laugh about something though. Remember way back when, before Katie Holmes, there was Tom Cruise and Penelope Cruz, lovebirds. Imagine the her reaction to the lunacy and ridiculousness of that "religion" when Cruise and his handlers and Scientologists tried to get her to come on board the "Cruise Wife" train. She obviously ran as far as any sane person would from those fruitloops.

[The Straight Story]

64. That's pretty messed up

But then again, it would probably help their careers somehow (they would be called brave for leaving, hit the talk show circuit, and so on).

$candals often seem to help more than they hurt.

55. that is insane n/t

[SidDithers]

56. My wife swore like a sailor during the birth of our first...

and only found comfort by banging her head against the bed railing during the birth of our second. I'm firmly in the "let-the-woman-do-whatever-the-fuck-makes-her-comfortable" camp when it comes to the issue of childbirth.

Sid

[Katherine Brengle]

61. To be fair, nothing can make it comfortable, lol --

but that sentiment is dead-on.

I had Demerol and an epidural and it was still awful.

Ugh, poor Katie... I just hope she knows what she is doing...

[truebrit71]

62. He is a fucking nutball...and she's an idiot for listening...

...they deserve each other....I feel bad for the child though....poor little mite won't stand a chance...

[AlCzervik]

65. Tom Cruise is an excellent reason to use birth control.

he knows jack shit about birthing babies and until he's grown a uterus and getws himself pregnant and then gives birth he should really STFU!!! OMG i am so sick of Tom Cruise!!!!! AAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!

[undeterred]

68. My male co-workers agreed that she ought to slap him

although I don't think it would do much good.:shrug:

[BiggJawn]

69. Hey Tom? when she says "You're NEVER stickin' that THING in me AGAIN!"

They ALL say that!

Maybe Katy will be like my first wife and actually KEEP that promise.

Fucking nut-case. Running your life according to the whims and scrawlings of some hack sci-fi writer.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. Hmmm. Ok. None Of My Business Really. They Could Do Whatever They Want

inside of legality. Also not sure I understand why there are so many that are acting as if Tom is forcing this on Katie somehow. It's obviously her choice and desire to do this as well, so their mutual agreement that this is how they want the birth to be is perfectly fine. Not sure when we became so eager to stick our noses in other people's private business as if we have some self-righteous right to judge them or something, but ehh, no harm done really anyway. I just shrug my shoulders with a 'yeah, kinda weird theory, but they're entitled to believe what they want and I'm tolerant of others' views, so god bless them and their child' thought in my head.

God bless em whether they have beliefs or practices I find strage or not.

[The Straight Story]

71. They can do as they like

but they are still fucking nuts.

[upi402]

72. weird. live and let live i guess. but will the church reciprocate?

:shrug:

[The Straight Story]

73. No, the aliens won't let em :)

They are free to do as they like, and I am free to tell em I think they are nuts.

[upi402]

75. and the aliens ar free to

tickle Tom's nuts in silence and in understandable motion.

Dayum, why are so many goofballs so filthy rich?

[lildreamer316]

74. He can kiss her a......

what a crappy way to treat a woman.

[blue neen]

78. Silence would take away any chance of her being "glib".

Pity the poor child who is coming into this world to these nightmarish parents.

[greenbriar]

79. TOM CRUISE CAN KISS MY ASS I would love to see him give birth

and not make a sound.


That mother fucker can kiss my ass

[hopeisaplace]

80. I screamed my effin' head off

..there are no words to describe this pain (from my perspective) to a man.
I thought I was going to die. Tom needs to pass a grapefruit through his nose.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

81. For Sake Of Curiosity, Why Are You (and others) Reacting So

strongly as if Tom is forcing this on her outside of her own will or something? She wants it to be this way. She is choosing to do this. She is not being forced. They mutually feel this is what is right and what works for them. They're entitled to that opinion even if we do think they're whacked out for having it. But throwing the animosity on Tom as if he's forcing this ideal on her beyond her will and her own choosing is just not in any way accurate.

[hopeisaplace]

82. I'm just sayin', for me, it was mind boggling pain...maybe it won't

hurt for her, maybe she won't feel the need to scream...it's her business, I agree, if
she feels this is what she wants to do, all the power to her.
BUT...and it's a big but...personally, I didn't hear to may silent" births when I was in the
maternity ward, 4 times. Maybe she'll have an Epidural, that may help, although, for me,
the epidural didn't work (had it for baby 4).

and Tom Cruise has no idea the kind of pain this can be, and it's Katie's first, so neither
does she.

[LaurenG]

88. Honestly, women have done many stupid things because they

"loved" their men. Yes you are right about her choice but being a first time mom she has NO CLUE what she is in for and he being a man will NEVER know what he is asking her to do.

It's a "men have had enough control for too long and look where it's gotten us kind of thing". In reality you are correct, however as a woman, I feel the need to protect Katie because she is so young and inexperienced, him he's a pimp taking advantage of someone he should love enough not to place a sign on the wall asking for silence. While she will never be able to live up to what he's asking the bottom line is you are right.

[REDKING]

84. I've said it so many............

times before.He needs a an awful good kickin.

[Frank Cannon]

86. This guy is crazier than a shithouse rat

I used to defend him and his right to his wacky cult beliefs. But I am seriously worried now that he is suffering from some sort of organic brain disease.

[LaurenG]

87. Without drugs of anykind

this will not happen. She needs to put signs on the bathroom wall that say the same thing and then feed him an 8 pound block of cement. He is such a "moran" no f'ing common sense and a dangerous human being. Screw him,I hope her mom takes him by the throat and dumps his ass overboard.:grr: