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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:57 AM
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The RetroLounge Daily Poem Thread (Sun 3/26/06)
Be sure to read this one out loud!
Yes, it is long, but in my opinion it is one of the best poems ever written!
Ever! (RL)

The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

S'io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma per ciò che giammai di questo fondo
Non tornò vivo alcun, s'i' odo il vero,
Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo.



Let us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question ...
Oh, do not ask, "What is it?"
Let us go and make our visit.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the windowpanes,
The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the windowpanes
Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening,
Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains,
Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys,
Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap,
And seeing that it was a soft October night,
Curled once about the house, and fell asleep.

And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes;
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate;
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

And indeed there will be time
To wonder, "Do I dare?" and, "Do I dare?"
Time to turn back and descend the stair,
With a bald spot in the middle of my hair--
(They will say: "How his hair is growing thin!")
My morning coat, my collar mounting firmly to the chin,
My necktie rich and modest, but asserted by a simple pin--
(They will say: "But how his arms and legs are thin!")
Do I dare
Disturb the universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.

For I have known them all already, known them all--
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?

And I have known the eyes already, known them all--
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase,
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin,
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall,
Then how should I begin
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways?
And how should I presume?

And I have known the arms already, known them all--
Arms that are braceleted and white and bare
(But in the lamplight, downed with light brown hair!)
Is it perfume from a dress
That makes me so digress?
Arms that lie along a table, or wrap about a shawl.
And should I then presume?
And how should I begin?

. . . . .

Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets
And watched the smoke that rises from the pipes
Of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows? . . .

I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas.

. . . . .

And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully!
Smoothed by long fingers,
Asleep . . . tired . . . or it malingers,
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me.
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head (grown slightly bald) brought in
upon a platter,
I am no prophet--and here's no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.

And would it have been worth it, after all,
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea,
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me,
Would it have been worth while,
To have bitten off the matter with a smile,
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it towards some overwhelming question,
To say: "I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all"--
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: "That is not what I meant at all.
That is not it, at all."

And would it have been worth it, after all,
Would it have been worth while,
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets,
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the floor--
And this, and so much more?--
It is impossible to say just what I mean!
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen:
Would it have been worth while
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl,
And turning toward the window, should say:
"That is not it at all,
That is not what I meant, at all."

. . . . .

No!I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use,
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous--
Almost, at times, the Fool.

I grow old . . . I grow old . . .
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

Shall I part my hair behind?Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

I do not think that they will sing to me.

I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.

We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

T. S. Eliot

********************

RL

if you want to see some of my poetry, see the blog at:
http://www.myspace.com/retropaul
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 11:31 AM
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1. Whoa.....
Not sure I can wrap my mind around that, but it's beautiful!

:hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:11 PM
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2. Apparently you are the only one who read it...
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 01:12 PM by RetroLounge
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.

:hi:

RL
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:19 PM
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3. First Yeats and now Eliot
I may be forced to lick you again. :hi:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:27 PM
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4. What do I get if I post
Pound and Dickenson?

:evilgrin:

RL
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:31 PM
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5. Spankings
and maybe a bite or two. ;)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:38 PM
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6. Sounds good to me...
A Girl

The tree has entered my hands,
The sap has ascended my arms,
The tree has grown in my breast -
Downward,
The branches grow out of me, like arms.

Tree you are,
Moss you are,
You are violets with wind above them.
A child - so high - you are,
And all this is folly to the world.

Ezra Pound

******************

RL
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:43 PM
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7. ahem
may i feel said he
(i'll squeal said she
just once said he)
it's fun said she


(may i touch said he
how much said she
a lot said he)
why not said she


(let's go said he
not too far said she
what's too far said he
where you are said she)


may i stay said he
(which way said she
like this said he
if you kiss said she


may i move said he
is it love said she)
if you're willing said he
(but you're killing said she


but it's life said he
but your wife said she
now said he)
ow said she


(tiptop said he
don't stop said she
oh no said he)
go slow said she


(cccome?said he
ummm said she)
you're divine!said he
(you are Mine said she)

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:57 PM
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8. ...
:hot:

RL

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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:11 PM
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9. Not my fault
You'll have to blame cummings for that. ;)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:11 PM
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10. Oh, I do, I do...
but I blame you also, just for being so cute...

:hi:

RL
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:12 PM
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11. Am not
:blush:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:28 PM
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13. Are to...
:D

RL
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:02 PM
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12. My dear RetroLounge!
I have read this one so many times.......

Yes, it is beautiful!

One of my favorites......



And BTW: you and Miss_American_Pie: Get a fucking room, will ya? Sheesh.......:eyes:

You too are quite erotic, methinks.....cummings indeed! :evilgrin: Very cute......
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:35 PM
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14. Anything you say...
Hey, Miss American Pie, we need to listen to CP, and get a room...



RL
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