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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:34 PM
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HawkerHurricane's NFL Power Ratings!
Welcome once again to HawkerHurricane’s NFL power rating.
The system is TWO points for every win, and one point for every win your opponents have...
Last weeks placement in Parens(). Current division leaders are marked with a d next to their rank, wild cards with a w.
Teams eliminated from the playoffs get a x. Teams with clinched playoff spots get a capital letter. Teams uneliminated (is that a word?) and without playoff spots will be given a number indicating how far out they are.

And, by popular demand (one person), my comments are back!

Rank Team points record comment

32(32) Chargers 15 2-10/x The future Los Angeles Chargers? LA doesn't want them!

31(30) Falcons 16 2-10/x No Vick, No Hope.

30(31) Jaguars 22 3-9/x Eliminated.

29(28) Raiders 22 3-9/x How low can they go?

28(24) Browns 23 4-8/4 Slim chance.

27(25) Cardinals 24 3-9/x How'd they get ranked higher than the Browns?

26(29) Lions 25 4-8/4 No comment, I'm tired of being flamed.

25(23) Steelers 29 4-8/4 Too bad.

24(26) Bears 29 5-7/3 Just wait 'til next year!

23(19) Redskins 33 4-8/4 Is the future here yet?

22(18) Giants 33 4-8/4 No joy in New Yawk.

21(27) Jets 35 5-7/3 I mean, none.

20(22) Saints 35 6-6/2 Ain'ts keep trying.

19(20) Texans 36 5-7/3 Not bad for an expansion team.

18(16) 49rs 37 5-7/3 Fans tell me that next year... I don't see it.

17(21) Bills 38 5-7/3 I had hopes.

16(15) Buccaneers 38 5-7/3 Unlike the Raiders, the Bucs are at least trying.

15(17) Broncos 39 7-5/1 2nd best in the division isn't saying much.

14(12) Packers 46 6-6/2 Is Farve a genius, or past his prime?

13(14) Ravens 46 7-5/d Leading a tight division by a hair.

12(11) Vikings 47 7-5/d If they continue to collapse, they'll give the Pack the division.

11(6) Cowboys 54 8-4/w Big loss to the 'phins.

10(13) Dolphins 54 8-4/w Big win against the 'boys.

9(10) Bengals 55 7-5/1 Bengals tied for first. BENGALS?

8(9) Seahawks 56 8-4/w 'hawks continue to play tough.

7(5) Panthers 57 8-4/d I must watch this team.

6(8) Rams 60 9-3/d Go Rams! And take the Clippers with you!

5(4) Titans 60 9-3/w Loss hurt rankings, nothing else.

4(7) Eagles 62 9-3/d Eagles quality of the NFC.

3(3) Colts 68 9-3/d Tough loss didn't hurt rankings.

2(2) Chiefs 70 11-1/D Clinched division; but look at thier opponents.

1(1) Patriots 88 10-2/d Frightening point total.

Based on what I have...
Patriots over Chiefs for AFC championship.
Eagles over Rams for NFC.
Patriots over Eagles in the Super Patriotic Bowl.
BUT
Any given Sunday, and it will be decided in the field.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:36 PM
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1. Chiefs didn't clinch division yet..
They have to beat the Broncos to do that, and they're not gonna do that next week.

Hawkeye-X
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:43 PM
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6. You are correct; the magic number is one.
One win by the Chiefs, one loss by the Broncos will clinch it for the Chiefs.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:37 PM
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2. Eagles should be #3...
Easily the cream of the NFC and I believe they're way better than the Colts. Manning inevitably will choke...

Great list!!!
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:33 PM
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17. It's a point system
based on your record and the record of the people you've beaten. Beating a better team gets you a better record. THe Eagles will probably represent the NFC in the Superbowl, but good luck with winning it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:38 PM
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3. Chiefs have clinched a division tie
But they'll take the title outright this Sunday. Only a smidgen premature.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:17 PM
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14. What have you been smoking?
The game is not at Arrowhead and when the Broncos played them there the Chiefs weren't that impressive. It's on the road, the Chiefs 8th worst defense and the fact they are not real strong on the road equals a Bronco Victory.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:25 PM
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15. Fergit it, I ain't sharin'!
And the Chiefs are unstoppable!

Denver! As if!
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:33 PM
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18. We'll see
But this Chiefs team is not impossible especially on the road, the is still the same Chefs team the Broncos swept last year, a team with a highpower offense and a weak defense. Plus this team is not very strong on the road, the only team they blown out was the Texans.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:05 PM
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25. The Broncos beat the Chiefs, but the Chiefs won the game
And had it handed to them on a silver platter by blind referees. Three clips in one kickoff runback for the decisive TD.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:30 PM
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26. Yeah, it's a shame they count points instead of stats
Heck, Denver would probably actually have a chance at the playoffs if they didn't keep score and judged the game solely by how pretty the teams were.

Hall must have covered about 150 yards on that runback, and he STILL outran the entire Bronco coverage team.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:26 PM
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30. Suckers walk....
Hall must have covered about 150 yards on that runback, and he STILL outran the entire Bronco coverage team.

Yes, after three of them were blocked in the back to the ground, Einstein.

We'll see what happens this Sunday.
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mindless Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #14
38. Not Strong on the Road?
1 Loss this season....and it wont be # 2 this week.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 06:23 PM
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43. They aren't
They lost to the Bengals on the road, beat the Raiders by one yard, beat the Chargers by 4 points, and so on. They have barely pulled ahead of teams on the road which is why they aren't strong on the road. This is somewhat the same team the Rams had, a highpower offense, vulnerable defense, near unbeatable at home, and not very strong on the road. I will defend that statement.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:24 PM
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44. No surprise about how they are...
Dick Vermiel built the Rams;, he built the Chiefs. I don't know about being weak on the road; weaker certainly, but weaker is not weak. I did not see the other games, but against the Chargers they got lazy toward the end and let the Chargers get within shouting distance only to slam the door.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:38 PM
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4. I like the cut of your jib ...
Sounds good to me!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:39 PM
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5. It's spelled Favre. And the 'Hawks can't win on the road.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 03:43 PM by HuckleB
Which is why the 'Hawks will drop like a meteor in the coming weeks.

And I'll drop my kudos to those Northern Arizona University Lumberjacks for defeating top ranked McNeese State in the first round of the NCAA Div. I-AA football playoffs. Hey, it's their first I-AA playoff win in history! Now they face Howard Schnellenberger and his Florida Atlantic U Owls in the Skydome in Flagstaff!

Go 'Jacks!

For more on the 'Jacks...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=479382
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Proving once again that I cannot spell.
Or do math, it seems.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:44 PM
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7. Patriots Uber Alles !
Excuse my martial tone. I am unduly influenced by the example of our Chimp-in-Chief*

The Patsies are going all the way again this year !

* AWOL while honor-bound by solemn oath to be serving with the Texas National Guard in the 1970s; defeated by a clear majority of patriotic and discerning American voters in the 2000 election; appointed to office by the so-called supreme court.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:46 PM
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9. You may be right
But it will be decided on the field.

You are, of course, 100% correct on the second subject.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:47 PM
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10. Mark my words: the Chiefs, Cowboys, and Panthers...
...won't go past the second round!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:52 PM
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11. Talk is cheap . . .
Since KC will have a first round bye, that means they'll face in all likelihood the Ravens or the Bengals, both of whom will have played the week before, and neither of whom have looked particularly fearsome on the road. But as I said, talk is cheap -- how about $5 to DU that the Chiefs will make the AFC title game?
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:47 PM
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20. The Chiefs would be 12-0...
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 04:48 PM by ih8thegop
...if not for the BENGALS!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:48 PM
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23. BENGALS!
No, I'm not a Bengal fan. But I'm dang happy for Bengal fans. You all deserve some fun!
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:25 PM
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29. Yes, BENGALS
The worst team of the 1990's...(see thier record).
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:52 PM
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24. Yup, and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its butt when it lands
So, whaddya say? If the Chiefs make the AFC title game, you send DU five bucks. If not, DU gets another fiver from me.
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:53 PM
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12. Marked...
Home field edge - advantage Chiefs. :)
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Radical__Moderate Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:08 PM
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13. Go Pats
They are quite a surprise this year. But being from New England, I am not even convinced they will make the playoffs until they make the playoffs.
But still Look at the teams they beat. They have an average Power rating of 46.9(better then Ravens) compared to the Cheif's 30.1(worse then The Redskins).



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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:31 PM
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16. Glad to see the comments back
No hope in NY, I mean NONE ROFLMAO.

Surprises in store for the playoffs, especially in the AFC I think. I think the Chiefs are overrated based on who they've been playing against, and wouldn't be surprised to see them knocked out somewhere in the playoffs, even given the toughness of playing in Arrowhead.

The AFC playoffs are all that matters the NFC is a joke this year (as it should be)
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:04 PM
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27. Yep, just like last year
When the hapless Bucs, 14 point underdogs, were destroyed by the much superior Raiders...

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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:30 PM
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34. LOL, touche
But I just dont see it this year....plus I'm an AFC boy so....;-)
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:18 PM
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35. Super Bowls have seen few big upsets.
Jets over the Colts
Bucs over the Raiders
Patriots over Packers
Come to mind.

But, Mr. AFC fan, remember that the first Superbowls were almost all NFL/NFC victories....
Packers
Colts (former NFL/NFC)
Cowboys
Steelers (former NFL)
The NFL/NFC and the former NFL teams still dominate. I say the Patriots are favorites, but I wouldn't put money on any of them. Eagles and Rams and Panthers all look good; as do Chiefs and Colts.
Any Given Sunday. If the Rams can get Home Field in the playoffs, I pick them. Otherwise, Eagles. Patriots are the best AFC right now, but there are many 'also rans' for the list.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:05 AM
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36. I know the NFC/NFL have long dominated
something about AFC ball though that I always liked more.

all be decided come january though
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:19 AM
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37. The best thing about Pro Football
as opposed to College Football: The championships are decided on the field, not by a computer program or the opinion of sportswriters (all with thier own bias) and coaches (also biased).
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 04:38 PM
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19. I have to add
Chicago is two games out of first place and there is 4 games left on the season. Don't look now but da' Bears are still alive.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:39 PM
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21. Yup.
Big game at Lambeau this weekend, especially if Minnesota finds a way to lose to the Seahawks. Wow! What a game that's going to be. Minnesota can't seem to win, and Seattle can't seem to win on the road. Yikes!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:41 PM
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22. Yup.
Big game at Lambeau this weekend, especially if Minnesota finds a way to lose to the Seahawks. Wow! What a game that's going to be. Minnesota can't seem to win, and Seattle can't seem to win on the road. Yikes!
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:05 PM
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28. They ain't dead yet...
But 4 weeks to make up a 2 game deficit is hard. Not impossible, just hard.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:27 PM
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31. I think, just to be cantankerous
I'll root for Cincinatti for the rest of the season.

They're on a roll right now (aren't they? :shrug: - I haven't paid much attention)

go Tiger-types!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:32 PM
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33. Right on!
I sure hope they make the playoffs, at any rate!
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Mr. Brown of MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:30 AM
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39. They have to get through Baltimore at home, first!
The Ravens are on a roll. Hope they can keep that momentum going.

-CollegeDude
Home town fan
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:30 PM
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32. Of course he's a genius...although I wish he would wear the
surgical glove while his thumb is healing...Brett that is. They're still in it. :)
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:48 AM
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40. You might as well rank the Vikings last.
They're an impotent ball club right now.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 10:25 AM
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41. Given the way they're playing...
Except that they still have hope; it's their's to lose, still. Unlike the hapless Chargers, who have no hope. Poor San Diego, they pay sports owners millions to keep lousy teams in town.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 06:18 PM
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42. pathetic self bump
one last chance before the new games...
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:46 PM
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45. The Rams looked great Sunday - if they keep it up...
there is no stopping them!
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:52 PM
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46. From your lips
to Allah's ear.
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