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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:17 AM
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Ann Coulter, Deadhead??? Believe it!
According to an interview in today's Salon.com

<snip>
Salon: That's like, all my life I've lived for cultural... when I was 20 I'd spend five nights a week going to double features of old movies. I lived for books and music. But now that I'm older, art can no longer change my life. Every movie or new rock 'n' roll group seems derivative of what I've already experienced...

Coulter: Right. That's why I love the Grateful Dead. You could listen to the same songs at a hundred different Dead shows and it would sound different.

You're a Deadhead!

Oh yes.

You've been to different shows?


I knew there was a reason I couldn't stand The Dead!

Lots.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:19 AM
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1. Dead from the neck up! DeadHead
paraphrasing Archie Bunker
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:19 AM
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2. "Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac..."
Don Henley called it!
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:05 AM
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6. A Hummer, more like.
A Cadillac would be too fuel efficient for Ms. Coulter.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:19 AM
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3. I think the Dead mentioned her in a song

Now what in the world ever became of sweet Jane?
She's lost her sparkle, you know she isn't the same.
Livin' on reds, and vitamin C, and cocaine,
All a friend can say is ain't it a shame.
--Truckin'

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:24 AM
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5. I often meet nazi deadheads
and just can't figure them out. Would lsd25 cure them or are they just always going to be different then us (me)?

Worst still are the "pro drug war" conservative GOP drug dealers. Imagine drug dealers who work with cops, support all sorts of law and order issues and candidates, but secretly make a fortune on illegal drugs.

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:51 PM
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13. And I always thought that Lou Reed sang about her
"Holly came from Miami, F L A
hitchhiked her was across the U S A
plucked her eyebrows on the way,
shaved her legs
and then he was a she
she says, hey babe, take a walk on the wild side.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 09:22 AM
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4. Annie a deadhead like I'm a Playboy Centerfold
Just cause you listen to the music doesn't make you a Deadhead.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:25 AM
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7. They have to listen to something, and winger music isn't
bowling over any critics.

I've read St. Augustine and Edmund Burke, and I like them better than Lenin and Marx. So what. I'm still a socialist.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:32 PM
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12. Wow - you're a centerfold?
You must be, 'cause Ann the Man is definately dead from the neck up.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 10:38 AM
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8. Ennui Annie
Every movie or new rock 'n' roll group seems derivative of what I've already experienced...

This gal has invented a world of strife to enliven your dreadfully rerun of a life. This statement says freepingly much about why she does and is what she is. Very telling.

Annie, everything outside of movies will start to feel of prior derivation as your illness progresses.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:11 PM
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9. Odd.... very odd.
Strange... Iwas reading a previous thread about this a couple months ago before I started posting, and I feel I have to say something.

I love the Grateful Dead. I'm not a Deadhead. I can't stand Deadhead culture, i.e. the not bathing, pee anywhere, apolitical, trust fund lifestyle, although I have a fondness for marijuana and have done my share of psychedelics in the past. I went to four Dead shows, all in the early nineties, and the scene in the parking lot sucked and the playing had gone WAY down hill. I have well over 400 hours of their live music on tape. I'm a fan of all sorts of music, like power pop, reggae, free jazz, 20th century classical, rockabilly, Ethiopian Big Band, etc.

I'm quite flummoxed by Coulter being a fan. Apparently John Barlow, one of their lyricists, is a libertarian who lives on a ranch in Wyoming. I have a studio outtake tape from 75 where the members of the Dead are sitting around smoking weed and chatting, and Bob Weir says he's a "registered republican." Lyndon LaRouche claims that the Dead are spies for the Queen of England. One time I walked into a music instrument store in New Orleans wearing a Dead t-shirt and was accosted by a fat, over-40 idiot behind the counter who tried to tell me that the Dead were Satanists whose lyrics included clues about satanic indoctrination techniques and shit. So there is some weird patina of flakiness surrounding the band, but Coulter? She must be responsible for SO many bad trips!

I read in a previous post where someone said the band was "libertarian." The Dead's philosophy runs quite counter to the tenets of "objectivist" libertarianism, in my opinion; in fact, every show was a kind of testament to the glories of collectivism...a large group of people living nomadically, sharing amongst themselves, "getting off" together, begging change, tickets, and rides, etc. Drop out culture. The group, rather than the individual, is enshrined and held up as the ideal. This is opposite of most libertarian doctrine, although it is true that a lot of their audience is made up of rich kids living out their white guilt fantasies... these types sometimes do leave behind this lifestyle and become republican.

Still, I remain confused.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:21 PM
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10. It's mistake to confuse the Dead's fans
with the Dead themselves. They are a bunch of people, and like all groups of people, there is a diversity of opinion. IMO, only one member of the Dead could be remotely considered a liberal.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 12:31 PM
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11. And that would be....
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 12:34 PM by RandomKoolzip
who? Frankly, I don't know how anyone could come out of the Haight in 66 and NOT be a liberal. Plus, the group's philanthropic arm, The Rex Foundation, figures here. Only rich people who are also liberal underrstand the need for philanthropy.

The Dead often spoke in interviews about the symbiotic relationship between them and their fans, about how at the "highest" moment during a show, the two groups were inseperable, and that all members were essential to make this happen. Theodore Stugeon's "More than Human" was often referenced by Phil Lesh when he wanted to explain how collectively the Dead concert experience end result was more than the sum of its parts. In libertarianism, the individual is everything, and his needs are placed above the needs of the mob.

These are opposite ideologies, and I can't see how libertarianism could fit into the whole picture.... Of course there's always a diversity of opinion among a group of people.
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:22 PM
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14. 1) Charity does not equal "liberal"
and plenty of hippies have changed as they grew older (see "Jerry Rubin")

2) All bands and all celebrities patronize their fans. They may talk about how "inseperable" they were from their fans, but have you ever tried to get backstage?

Have you ever been backstage? Both the roadies and the band hold their fans in contempt.

3) Lesh is an arrogant snob who has never done anything for the liberals and has never put anyones needs above his own.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:03 PM
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15. No wonder she has such a low opinion of liberals.
She think's we're all out selling cheese sandwiches and saris in the parking lot.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 03:38 PM
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16. interesting conversation I had once in Europe
interesting conversation I had once in Europe, we were on the train to Paris, where we, yes, were gonna see the Dead that night. Somehow ( lol ) the conversation turned to drugs and drug legalization. The folks I was talking to said that no, they didn't think LSD should be legal, and yes, they planned on taking LSD that night. No amount of talking could show them the inherent contradiction of that position. Maybe Ann Coulter is that kind of deadhead.
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