Man Gave Woman Drain Cleaner To Drink To Watch Her Vomit For Sexual Kicks

[matcom]

<snip>

A 33-year-old Grafton woman was fighting for her life Thursday night after she drank concentrated drain cleaner given to her by a man who then videotaped her violent vomiting for his sexual gratification, Milwaukee police said.

With just two gulps, the caustic solution seared a path from the woman's lips down to her stomach, burning holes along the way and then likely scorched her again as she vomited the poison.

The woman, who was not identified, was at St. Michael Hospital, according to one of the victim's co-workers. Police said she might die.

Detectives are studying a videotape that shows the woman drinking the solution and then throwing up. Police said the tape shows at least three other women drinking solutions and becoming ill.

On Tuesday, police arrested Sean A. Kobin, 20, of Mequon, near the former Northridge Mall on suspicion of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, according to arrest records.

A registered sex offender in Wisconsin, Kobin was convicted last year of exposing a 13-year-old girl to harmful materials by urging her, in a series of phone calls and computer messages, to drink bleach, lighter fluid and urine to arose him sexually, according to a Waukesha County criminal complaint.

Kobin was released from prison April 19 after serving a year. He is on probation and was being held late Thursday in the Milwaukee police jail.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/nov05/369718.asp

[DS1]

1. Was it filmed in Technicolor?

Black & White would've been such a waste

[Loonman]

2. Why do they keep releasing these dangerous idiots?

Is my question. Fucking lawyers. Fucking judges.

[...of J.Temperance]

4. Probably because they're suffering from

Psychosis, which means APPARENTLY that whatever anybody does...it's not their fault because they've got psychosis, so therefore they DON'T know what they're doing.

:sarcasm:

[Loonman]

5. No excuse

Although the touchy feely fucks will tell you otherwise. "Ooooooh....anybody can be rehabilitated".

Bullshit!

[...of J.Temperance]

8. Yeah my comment

Was in reference to a certain thread that's got 100 plus posts.

It's okay, this fellow will PROBABLY murder his next victim...oh sorry, they don't murder, they kill, and I'm told there's a difference :eyes:

But you know, when he kills the next one, it's okay, he's probably got psychosis, so he'll get away with it.

[Loonman]

9. So this woman's life is pretty much ruined if she lives

Because some asshole lawyer convinced a shithead judge to turn this fucker loose.

Pathetic.

[...of J.Temperance]

14. This

Fucker deserves LIFE imprisonment, I have NO mercy for these freaks whatsoever, in fact LIFE imprisonment and cut their balls off. You EVEN TOUCH a child in a sexual way, you EVEN DO any kind of weirdo ass shit against a man OR a woman in a sexual way...you should have your balls cut off and the key thrown away.

Other people disagree with you and I though...if you check another thread out. Hey you can kill your kids and it's considered alright.

I quote:

"I doubt she would be a danger to anyone besides her own children...which are all dead."

Yep, that's the logic.

On Edit: Moderators if my post is out of order, feel free to delete it. But you know, people can only take so much of the bullying and personal attacks for expressing their own opinion on certain things. And people can only take so much of that bullying and personal attacks from admitted Armchair Psychologists.

[Loonman]

21. I don't buy the "mentally incompetent" canard

Even if someone does not have the mental faculties to know they committed a heinous crime, that is no excuse to not incarcerate them indefinitly. Doesn't have to be behind bars, but in a very secure mental institute.

[...of J.Temperance]

26. I totally agree with you

They need to be away from ALL society. I'm sick of hearing about kids being murdered, sick of hearing about kids' bodies being found.

This freak if he's not stopped, he's going to murder a child.

So in my opinion, the way decent society stops that, is as SOON as these freaks are picked up for touching a child, having porn involving children et al...can their ass, no questions, no excuses, lock them up for life.

That way, maybe we can start saving some kids and letting those kids grow up, get a job, have a family and live a LIFE...and not being found buried in shallow graves or thrown in rivers or thrown at the side of highways.

The children should be the number one priority. I don't give a fuck if the freak was abused as a kid, or his teacher shouted at him when he was 9 or something or Mommy sent him to bed without his dinner when he was 12 or something.

[Taverner]

25. I feel sympathy, but Life imprisonment is fine by me

With no chance of parole. As sorry as I feel for him, I want insurance that he'll never do this again. Life imprisonment gives me that.

Even if he's reformed and "finds jesus" or something....keep him in prison.

[redqueen]

44. You're the one acting like an armchair psychologist...

My thread didn't imply that psychotic murderers should go free... only that they shouldn't be locked up with other criminals in prisons.

[...of J.Temperance]

54. Re.

Post # 21 in your thread:

"I doubt she would be a danger to anyone besides her own children...which are all dead."

This is possibly one of THE most offensive things that I've ever read, and I'm not easily offended.

To downplay and brush aside the murders of children BY their OWN Mother's hand is an absolute disgrace. And you want people to feel sorry for Andrea Yates? No.

Her kids are dead, gone, kaput, finished, over...they're NOT coming back PERIOD. Their Mother's life is still on-going, and if she was so remorseful then she'd want to join her children, because she'd be SO BESIDE herself with grief, she wouldn't be able to live each day knowing what she's done...five innocent children, count them one, two, three, four, five.

Those five kids, there's nothing left of them now, they each had a horrific death and they each suffered at their own Mother's hands, she drowned each child methodically with her OWN hands.

Andrea Yates lives and breathes and watches the TV and reads...what do her five children do? What can they do?

Her five children can do NOTHING, period, because all that's left of each child is just a bunch of bones turning into dust down a hole in the ground. Little kids, just rotted away.

I think of the children full stop. They each deserved a life, a full, long, happy and productive life...but because of their Fundie Mother murdering them because voices were talking to her in her head...those children's lives ENDED in a barrel of water or a bathtub of water or whatever she drowned them in.

"I doubt she would be a danger to anyone besides her own children...which are all dead."

Lovely 'eh?

And by making comments like I've made, which I would go out on a limb and say that at least 60% of the population would agree with...if comments like mine make the do-gooders who are pro-Andrea Yates think that I'm not Progressive ENOUGH or that I'm a Troll or something. Then I just don't care.

I know that I'm Mainstream Progressive, I know that I'm a member of the Democratic Party, a party that I LOVE down to my soul, a party that's not perfect, but then nothing is, I know that I'm not a Troll.

I know what's in my heart and I know what's in my head and that's it.

Nobody on your thread I don't think IS a qualified Psychologist, you've also got someone on your thread who admits to having some sort of illness...the people on your thread are falling over themselves to defend Andrea Yates, a murderess, to show Andrea Yates compassion and empathy and understanding...YET the people on your thread ganged up on, bullied and directed personal attacks against that poster who admitted to you that she had some problems, NOBODY showed that poster ANY compassion OR empathy whatsoever...it's a pity she didn't kill her kids isn't it?

[redqueen]

60. I hope you don't think I'm going to read all that.

If you want to argue with the person who posted it, feel free.

I have better things to do.

[bleedingheart]

40. if she lives...and that is a big if...

she will have scaring of her insides and probably scars on the outside because if they have to cut her open to repair the holes from the basic solution it will more than likely be one long incision.

Ths story just shows you how sick some people really are. I say lock him up in a prison.

[redqueen]

43. Oh so you're a psychiatrist, and you're diagnosing this perv based on news

Lemme see... who else do I know of that does dumbass shit like that...

[Loonman]

51. Why don't you invite him over to your house

For tea and cakes if he's so benign?

[...of J.Temperance]

56. I think they also should offer to let

Andrea Yates move in with one of them, so they can take care of her and baby her...help her become productive within the community again.

[redqueen]

59. WTF?

WHERE did I say he was benign?

[pdx_prog]

3. What a sick MF!

I would like to make him a fucking cocktail!

A little acid fizz to cool you off...

[Texasgal]

6. This has got to be the weirdest

Matcom news ever! :crazy:

[underpants]

19. Weirder than the bloody chainsaw guy?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=828025&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Oh he is going to stand trial

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051013/despres_murder_051013/20051013?hub=TopStories

[...of J.Temperance]

29. Hey I don't know, I think maybe we should just

Let that guy go you know. What's to say that given a chance and some medical treatment he can't become a productive member of his community?

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[redqueen]

46. Dude let it go.

Or go back to THAT thread and have that convo.

Jesus.

[...of J.Temperance]

58. Your

Thread greatly upset a poster in that thread, a poster that admitted that they had some trouble. And I don't like people upsetting people like that, it was a fucking disgrace and those people should be ashamed of themselves for ganging up on that poster.

I stand for fair play, and what happened in your thread to that poster was WAY below the belt.

[redqueen]

61. So... you're upset because someone else got upset.

Why don't you post a link to the horrible awful terrible incident? I'd like to see the disgraceful shameful thing that was done.

Do you think it's healthy that you're carrying this around with you?

[Texasgal]

33. Look at the dudes picture!!!

OMG!!! :scared:



I dunno, both stories are weird... but the vomit, sex dude is really bizarre!

[...of J.Temperance]

27. Oh heck

It's nice to see that Texas Longhorns :)

[Texasgal]

34. HOOK "EM!!!

:) Thanks!

[...of J.Temperance]

36. Yeah!

I was in Irving during the Longhorns vs Oklahoma game! Thousands of Okies turned up...it wasn't really worth them turning up was it? ;)

[Texasgal]

37. Nope...

Boomer Sooooners.....bombed! HA! HA!

The eyes of TEXAS are UPON YOU!!!!!! :bounce:

[...of J.Temperance]

38. Well I'm for

LSU myself, but I do have a soft spot for those Longhorns :)

[Texasgal]

39. LSU is good!

I had friends that went there!

LSU Tigers? Is it?

[...of J.Temperance]

41. Yes

Go Tigers!

[brentspeak]

7. Life in prison

[...of J.Temperance]

11. No THAT'S not allowed either

They're not allowed life in prison...because that's cruel and it's considered punishing them.

:sarcasm:

[KFC]

17. That man clearly did not know what he was doing

You have to be mentally ill to get off on seeing women puke. Why can't you understand that??

[...of J.Temperance]

23. Hey...you notice I WAS being sarcastic with my comments

The freak is obviously completely UNFIT in ANY format to be free in any community. He needs locking up now and the key needs throwing away. You can't rehabilitate sex offenders, they don't want to be rehabilitated because they ENJOY what they DO.

[KFC]

28. For sure.

I just want to emphasize that those puke-happy voices in his head were not his fault. He just did what they told him, so he had no idea what he was doing. How can you have any idea what you are doing when you actually do something? I have no idea.

[...of J.Temperance]

35. Okay

And you're right, the voices in his head could have told him to pull the shit he's been pulling. Yes, it's COMPLETELY logical.

So we're meant to let these people live in the equivalent of the Hilton Hotel apparently...no matter WHAT they've done, we must baby them and of course just BRUSH aside their victims, even if those victims are dead, because you know, they don't actually matter...the murderer is far more important, he's a victim too afterall.

Crap.

[Initech]

10. This is seriously bizarre.

And I'm reminded of a Naked Gun quote:

"Sure it's like eating a spoonful of Drano. It'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside."

[Shell Beau]

32. LOL!!!

I can just hear Leslie Neilson's voice saying it!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Sounds to me like the victims

were very very vulnerable people if they could be talked into doing this. I don't see how you could disguise draino as anything other than a cup full of toxins. :cry:

[Taverner]

15. I dunno they could have said its Jaagermeister

Stuff looks and smells the same

[Hardrada]

42. Or akvavit

which you have to glug down right away!

[Loonman]

24. People like this home in on vulnerable people

This guy knew what he was doing. He's a sociopath with violent sexual tendencies, hardly mentally incompetent.

[Shell Beau]

13. Get this man some serious help!!

Anyone who gets their kicks watching someone puke is SICK!!!

[Taverner]

16. I dont think it was puking that turned him on

I think it was watching them die...like a lot of serial killers do

:scared:

[Shell Beau]

20. Even sicker!!!!

:(

[barb162]

18. Um, I think this means life in prison; you can't let this sadist out

to prey on people again. This woman's internal organs will be messed up beyond belief even if she lives through this.

[Taverner]

22. I agree

even if he can be reformed (which he probably can) I want insurance.

[Loonman]

30. Yeah, he was reformed after he urged that 13 year old to drink bleach

A year ago.

:sarcasm:

[Taverner]

31. Exactly why I want insurance

Just because you can reform someone, doesn't mean you have to let them out.

[redqueen]

45. WHY did she drink it?

Did he put a gun to her head?

:crazy:

[mongo]

47. What a sick fucker..

Deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law.

[Name removed]

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[schmuls]

49. Sick son of a bitch...this happened just a few miles

from my home. She agreed to do it because he told her it turned him on, but he assured her it would not hurt her. Sick fuck!

[Loonman]

50. Pretty much uncorrectable sadism

So if he got shanked in the GP or somebody shot him in the head, they'd be performing a public service.

[miss_american_pie]

52. Haven't they heard of ipecac?

That is just bizarre.

[Loonman]

53. The fact that he used drain cleaner implies murderous or malicious intent

Although I'm sure some piece of shit lawyer can produce an "expert" that would say otherwise.

[miss_american_pie]

57. Oh, ewwwwwww

[Jamastiene]

55. Damn, why do good Milwaukee citizens have to put up

with the bad rep from sickos like this sadistic son of a bitch and Jeffrey Dahmer?

That should at least carry a manslaughter or murder attempt sentence.

My biggest question though is:
Why was a child predator out on probation to begin with. They should be locked up permanently. There is no cure for that sort of sick sadistic behavior...Lock 'em up and they won't be able to hurt innocent people again.

[Pithlet]

62. Locking

This is degenerating into a heated discussion of another thread.