Too much hating on Rachael Ray goin' on here.

[mac56]

Dayum. What's not to like?!

Cute. Funny. Good cook. Doesn't take herself too seriously. Not into the star thing. Likes baseball and beer.

Y'all are way too harsh.

[Lavender Brown]

1. Now you've done it!

There have actually been flame wars here about Rachael.

[Redstone]

2. She's a cutie, with those big brown eyes (not to mention

the nice cupcakes) and I'm sure she's a very pleasant person, but her giggle really bothers me. Just like that bizarre high-pitched hum that Emeril Lagasse does when he's not talking.

Redstone

[northzax]

9. does this help?

or maybe this?

[Redstone]

14. You noticed that I mentioned the cupcakes,

didn't you?

Redstone

[northzax]

17. who, me?

not at all. never. now about that driving real fast thing...

[Redstone]

24. The driving real fast thing? Not me, couldn't be. Not at all. Never.

I don't even have a car that can go fast, like one with absurd horsepower numbers or excessive turbocharger boost, and a five-speed and convertible top, or anything...

Redstone

[northzax]

29. still stuck in third, huh?

I feel your pain. have a bonus...

[Redstone]

34. Oh, no. Third was only a stage, notable for the round number it produced.

Now, speaking of round numbers...Nah, I won't say that. Or will I?

Not a problem domestically for me to state these opinons (lucky son of a bitch that I am); Mrs R likes her too, although the giggle doesn't bother her as much as it does me.

Redstone

[NNadir]

60. Oh my god, that woman's killed and dismembered a large bird!

Now she's looking to cremate it to hide the evidence.

Disgusting.

[Moochy]

3. Just to clarify

One can play a "rachael ray drinking game" without hating



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[kittykatkoffeekup]

5. The rules.

You will be hammered in 30 minutes.

http://www.slobak.com/rachaelray.html

[Moochy]

7. Thanks I'll have to add those to my other thread :)

Were gonna run out of alcohol over here!

[GrpCaptMandrake]

4. Simply put,

she just strikes me as phony. From that kitschy kitchen to her West Coast up-speak, she just puts me off. She lacks the real-time kitchen chops of the Ewok, the fun of Alton Brown and the edge of, say, Tony Bourdain. And she couldn't reach Paula Deen with a twenty foot spatula.

I will grant her a 7.17695 on the hotness scale, though.

[mac56]

6. Okay, but

just as simply put - Paula Deen's been at it longer. Much longer.

[Shell Beau]

69. My mother LOVES Paula Deen.

She has a couple of her cookbooks and watches her faithfully. It helps that she is southern I am sure. But yeah, she's a little older than Rachel Ray for sure.

[GOPisEvil]

8. West coast up-speak?

Interesting. She's from New York. She never held herself out as a chef, she's not trained as one. I think she's pretty genuine, IMHO.

Alton is better, and I like his show more, but I'd rather "cook" with Rachael.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

12. As a straight male,

I'd rather "cook" with Rachael, too.

Wait a minute.

Am I misconstruing something here?

[Redstone]

28. Cool your jets there, Mandrake. She's married.

Or is about to be. But I agree with your basic concept.

Redstone

[GrpCaptMandrake]

33. Trust me, Redstone

my jets are so cool they're frozen. Mrs. Mandrake insists they be.

[Redstone]

38. Hah! And may I mention that in my opinion, Peter Sellers was

about the funniest and most talented actor ever to have graced a movie screen? And that Dr Strangelove was about the third or second or first best movie ever made?

Who the hell would have ever thought that George C Scott, great actor that he was, could actually be funny? (I'd pay big to be able to see the version of "A Christmas Carol" that he starred in. Have only seen it once, and not since.)

Redstone

[GrpCaptMandrake]

40. My voice teacher

back when I studied THEE-ayter had been Scott's coach on "Strangelove." He claimed Scott made a career out of the Buck Turgidson character by reprising it in "Patton." There's some truth there. His Scrooge *is* magnificent.

I watch "Dr. Strangelove" about once a month. It stays fresh. Peter Sellers was a genius on-camera. Off-camera was apparently an entirely different story. The HBO movie about him starring Geoffrey Rush was quite good, IMHO.

The thing about Strangelove is that ever since Bush took office, it's stopped being quite so funny. A lot more like a horror movie now.

[Redstone]

43. Good point, that. Dr Strangelove does seem more realistic now, yes?

I saw the Peter Sellers biography in the library the other day, but did not read it, because I'd prefer to remember him for his work.

Three other woefuly underappreciated comic actors, one from that movie and two from Mel Brooks's work:

1) Slim Pickens. His acting was as great as his name.

2) Marty Feldman: "What hump?"

3) My dear, departed Madeline Kahn. Her TV show was absolutely wonderful, as was her movie work. She was a gem. One of the few celebrities whose death genuinely made me feel sad.

Redstone

[GrpCaptMandrake]

59. Dead-on on all three counts

Madeline Kahn played funny, sexy and straight with equal aplomb and sometimes all at once!

One of the great under-appreciated comedies is "The Last Re-make of Beau Geste." Damn!

And Slim Pickens just IS.

As an appreciator of great comedy, are you familiar with "The In-Laws?" Quite possibly the greatest comedy of the last quarter of the 20th Century. The interplay between Alan Arkin and Peter Falk is priceless.

[cwydro]

31. and as a gay female

I concur.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

42. Up-speak started in the valley

but it's spread across the country like a linguistic plague. You know it's bad when even the girls in Appalachia are doing it.

[Bridget Burke]

66. There's nothing wrong with her "kitschy" kitchen

That's just my style.

But she does giggle too much. And, as others have pointed out, she's actually from Upstate New York. Is her accent the cornfed version of Joan Rivers'?

Due to my orientation, Alton Brown is my idea of hot. And I wouldn't mind having a drink with Tony Bourdain.

[fudge stripe cookays]

10. She's annoying as hell.

Flame away.

She bugs the crap out of me.
FSC

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. I agree with you. nt

[GOPisEvil]

13. You're entitled to your opinion.

No matter how wrong.

Actually...her food is better than her show. I've actually made some of her stuff and it's fast and tasty.

[LostinVA]

20. No flames from me...

[Reciprocity]

15. Oprah developing Rachael Ray talk show.

LOS ANGELES, California (Hollywood Reporter) -- Food Network personality Rachael Ray has signed a deal with Oprah Winfrey's production company to host a daytime syndicated talk show targeted to launch in fall 2006.

(Wow that's a long time from now)

Ray is the host of the Food Network series "30-Minute Meals," "$40 a Day," "Inside Dish" and "Tasty Travels." She also has written 10 cookbooks, with another due out next month, and a monthly lifestyle magazine, Every Day With Rachael Ray, debuts next month.

Ray will continue to appear on Food Network, but no decision has yet been made as to whether the syndicated talk show also will air on the Scripps-owned channel.
For more...
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/10/06/television... /

[GOPisEvil]

16. This is a very, VERY bad idea.

Rachael...stick to your shows on FoodTV, please.

[susanna]

25. Oh my stars, no!!!!

What a terrible idea. I'm with you, GOPisEvil. That will not work for me...and I kinda like her. Ewwwwww...

[Moochy]

26. I'm sure it will do as well as Emeril's Sitcom!

We all loved that a bunch.

[susanna]

46. I had blessedly forgotten that.

Thanks for the reminder...'cuz that about sums it up.

[Shell Beau]

71. Well, not sure if it is or not.

Oprah reaches millions. The top two daytime shows are Oprah and Dr. Phil. I guess Rachael will be #3.

[ghostsofgiants]

18. Who the fuck is Rachael Ray?

[mac56]

22. here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachael_Ray

[GrpCaptMandrake]

36. According to the article

she's shilled for Burger Thing. Ewwwwwwww!

[Idioteque]

19. Seriously, I wish the Food Network would just show Good Eats and Iron Chef

...continuously. (I mean the real Iron Chef, not this Iron Chef America BS).

[LostinVA]

21. And Everyday Italian

[ulysses]

52. Giada rocks.

[Chovexani]

63. Giada is awesome!

I love her and POW-la DEEN (hi y'all! ). Barefoot Contessa is pretty awesome too, I just got her French cookbook and it ROCKS. I've never seen Ina make anything bad.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

68. PREACH ON!

Amen and hallejuah!!

[susanna]

23. I admit to assisting the drinking game thread.

That said, she has great ideas and I have tried quite a few. I like her myself, but you can sometimes set your watch by her phrases...

[Lethe]

44. i like her too

but i still like to poke fun

[susanna]

45. Exactly! n/t

[Moochy]

47. Shame on you for posting on my thread!!

may I offer you a drink to help you drown your shame?

[susanna]

53. Moochy, I should SOOOO take you up on that...

My shame is palpable. Actually it deserves its own zip code. I would be proud to accept a drink...

[Moochy]

54. Here ya go, a Strawberry Marg-alrightas

http://www.recipezaar.com/122032

2 pints ripe strawberries
4 ripe limes, juiced, plus
1 lime, wedged for rimming and garnish
8 tablespoons sugar
1/2 cup orange juice
ice cubes (2 trays)
12 fluid ounces good quality tequila (8 shots)
coarse salt, to rim glasses

And while you enjoy your misnamed drinkypoo...

Read this article explaining how she engenders love and loathing in her viewers: http://www.detnews.com/2005/eatsdrinks/0509/07/G08-3056...

I think I'm about 70% love and 30% loathing with her. :hugs:

[mac56]

55. From the article:

"I need some powder," says Ray. "I'm sweatin' like Nixon."

How can you not love that?!

[July]

65. NYT article on her yesterday said her mother used to pin

McGovern buttons on her kids' clothes.

[kittykatkoffeekup]

27. Haha! She has a "suck" site.

http://www.livejournal.com/community/rachael_ray_sux /

[mac56]

32. Oh puh-leez. Like that proves anything.

Everyone good has a "suck" site about them somewhere.

[kittykatkoffeekup]

35. Got nothing nothing against her

I just find it funny that people would obsess over something (or someone) this much.

[Moochy]

48. A confession

PSSS I'll tell you a secret kittykatkoffeekup

I'm trying to get to 2000 posts tonite, which explains my recent Rachael Ray obsession.

[kittykatkoffeekup]

50. I'll be watching

[GrpCaptMandrake]

39. "Raytard" *snort*

[cwydro]

30. Totally agree

with you. I think she's hot. And I like her shows and I like her recipes...hell if I can make them, anyone can...

[LisaL]

37. I like her. She is so adorable, and she cooks. Like you said,

what's not too like?

[chaska]

41. Ya know, as gorgeous as she is, she just doesn't photograph well...

I saw a couple of her cook books earlier today. She's much prettier than those and the pic above.

[Lethe]

57. she needs to stop bleaching her hair. she looks better as a brunette

everyday you see her her hair is lighter.

[hickman1937]

49. I like her. She makes cooking look easy, takes the fear out of it.

I'd like to see her and Paula Dean do a show together. Something like a Christmas or Easter show. The South meets New England. They already did a show with all of them, but it was too much, too many people, and very little interaction.

[Zomby Woof]

51. She's too New York state for me

Scratchy, nasal voice, artificial perkiness, and man hands.

Overrated. The ONLY reason she is famous is because of nearsighted adolescent males.

Her recipes are banal and she is a lousy tipper. That last point alone justifies loathing her.

[Lethe]

56. she does have "man hands", but is that a NY thing?

first Seinfeld's girl and now Rachael?

you never hear of a woman saying "he's nice but he has woman hands."

[Zomby Woof]

58. Yep

I don't think man hands are a bad thing, they're just not MY thing.

[Hissyspit]

61. Um, not REALLY that good a cook.

I mainly like her trips to restaurants on "$40 a day." Alton Brown is better for learning how to be a good cook.

[Chovexani]

62. She's on crack.

I used to like her, she had interesting recipes, but the girl is clearly on drugs. Her manic behavior, asinine nicknames & catchphrases, recipes that look like she literally pulled them out of her ass, and the fact that she has 950 shows on Food Network despite having no actual chef training whatsoever makes me hate her and think she's the second worst host on Food Network*. She's only cute if you're into psycho crack fiends.

Which, hey I don't judge, but...


*The first, of course, would be Sandra Lee. Ray Ray at least used to make edible looking food, while SLop has never made anything resembling food in her life...the woman specializes in autopsy cuisine.

[newyawker99]

64. I like Rachael and Giada but I am getting a bit

tired of Emeril. He has the same lines
he had when he started his first show.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

67. SHE IS SO FUCKING OBNOXIOUS!

Next time she says "EVOO" and then explains what that means like she does on EVERY FUCKING SHOW I'm going to charge down to the studio and hit her in the face with a nailbat!

And, not to be rude, but what's the deal with her breasts? They look like half filled water balloons.

[bertha katzenengel]

70. I don't hate Rachel Ray. I hate her sin.

I crack me up.

Mac! Let's hear it for the underdog! Go, Astros!

[kwassa]

72. I don't think she is very pretty.

I'm sure she is a great cook.

She is just, well, perky, and perky bores the daylights out of me. Rather average-looking, really.