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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:09 PM
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How do you remain positive...?
If in the face of such negativity from the right (in regard to the survivors of Katrina), you've maintained a positive perspective, would you mind sharing how you do so?

How are you able to look at the piss ants on Fox, the idiots on Freeper boards, and still come from it all saying, "There's still more good than bad in this world?"

Please, I'd really like to know...

Thank you!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:10 PM
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1. Well don't try my method
It pushed me yet further into nihilism and cynicism.

Basically, imagine the worst thing you can imagine someone doing, and realize in a few years, you'll see the Republicans do that too.

At least that way it doesn't surprise you.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:19 PM
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6. I'm sorry--I'm so twisted right now--your response
really cracked me up!! :rofl:

Maybe because it echoes the response of a very good friend of mine. I asked her this question, and she said something very similiar...
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:52 PM
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21. The GOP is going to lock me in a small room,
give me a large dose of LSD, and play a continuous loop of Phil Collins song "Sussudio"?

:scared:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:11 PM
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2. I look into the faces of my kids...I look around me when out, at all of
the people sharing this earth, and I tell myself that we are all in this together and it can only get so bad, before it gets better. :hug:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:20 PM
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8. I like your spirit and attitude, Mrs. Grumpy
thank you. :hug:

I will try to put your methods to use...
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:12 PM
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3. I have a hard enough time even trying
to remain positive on a personal scale that the thought of being optimistic about the nation overwhelms me at times. I don't know how people could be so fooled by this regime.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:23 PM
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9. It is overwhelming...
...it's difficult to understand, isn't it? I don't know any other reason, than they want to be fooled--or at least that they don't want to grasp the complex concepts required to see what is really going on.

:(
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:37 PM
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13. Yes it is difficult to understand.
I agree with the reasons you gave. That's why it's so hard to prosecute white-collar crime in this country. Many people have a hard time grasping the enormity of it all. And what we have here is white collar crimes of the highest order.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:42 PM
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15. Ah, excellent point...
I wonder if we will ever get beyond that...

Thank you for your thoughts! :hi:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:49 PM
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19. You're most welcome!
:hi:

I think we have to think in terms of generational change to have what we can call a civilized society here. One or two elections isn't going to do it.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:14 PM
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4. heh. i try to never get too positive about things in the first place.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:15 PM
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5. I cannot. Not anymore.
Now just how "society" is now, but the last 25~30 years that have shaped it.

We could have been a far different place.

Still, all things happen for a reason. And too many won't kmow the reason when it punches them in the jaw. :-(
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:24 PM
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10. Hi HypnoToad--
Good to see you.

Do you feel that the events of Katrina are serving a 'higher purpose' in the grand scheme of things? For better or worse?

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:33 PM
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27. Interesting... This is a two part response:
For Katrina itself... it has brought out the best and worst in people. The scammers, out to make a buck - in our "society" that's to be expected. Pity nobody whined about the 9/11 commemorative "coins" and bits of WTC steel being sold at outrageous prices back in the day, but I digress... it's just capitalism. :eyes: We have the known charities out (how's the United Way doing? Still way united in ripping people off, just like they had after 9/11?). There are people viciously shooting others. There are people stealing tvs and other manufactured rubbish - presumably for money so they can use it to buy what they need to survive, should they escape to use it. I cannot have a negative opinion on the looters (of any color, despite what the pigheaded fascist media wants to say otherwise, fuck them (and not in the good way)). Not when our "society" is so slow to respond. When you create a situation that is the antithesis of working together, you invariably end up with people who will kill and steal for selfish gain. (and I don't mean base survival; I mean profiteering at the great expense of others, which is beyond depraved.) How can you trust? How can you even maintain a marriage when money is the root basis for more divorces than I can even begin to count? But I digress...

Fortunately, we have REAL people trying to help each other too, which is by far the best reminder that some of us still have souls. So it's not all lost, but a wake-up call. The question is, can things be turned around? **

And now for the philosophical ground, which is infinitely more expansive, ominous, and requires you to eat a piece of chocolate cheesecake afterwards because it'll make you smile as cheesecake is wont to do - and despite it all we still need to smile:

For human life to be affected on this grand scale shows that God, Allah, Karma, or even Ms. Allenthrope III (whoever she is) ain't quite happy right now...

Human beings were Created, yes. But we are also responsible for our own destiny as a collective species. Now people loosely use the phrase "Life is what you make of it", yet in so many ways the people saying it are truly clueless about its utter meaning for they too often merely existing inside the box (rather than seeing inside the box, rather than peering outside of it.) And people haven't realized what is about to make them because they were merely existing within the confines set up for them rather than looking and daring to think for themselves, even if they aren't right 100% of the time...

But I digress. We were given the intelligence to use the land and use the Earth to our benefit. But we were never expected to abuse it such as we have done, to considerable degree. And I too, before looking outside of that box we call "our society", thought of things rather differently.

I suppose it was "peak oil", reality or myth, that had opened my eyes the remainder of the way; though since 1994 I've been getting further left-leaning and pitying those who blindly follow ANY politician - particularly the 'right'. For some of them were all too happy to buy an SUV without bothering to look at the MPG ratings label as mandated by law.

But I digress again. What is happening now is explicitly BECAUSE of humankind's abuse to the planet we, as a species, were given. Not only did we never evolve (replace "countries" with "corporations" and voila - instant shroud. Corporations are just as ruthless as the likes of Napoleon, Hitler, and Moussolini except they are corporate and therefore it's just about profiteering. Nothing big, right? Wrong... Commercial imperealism will ALWAYS be the same thing as military conquest yet too many people think capitalism is cool and anyone else is a fool. (yet they buy those SUVs and not look at the MPG chart, just who is the fool again?))

Oops. I did it again. Humankind's abuse, via interpersonal hate/selfishness/greed or environmental abuse - combined with no population controls has led to a VERY unbalanced system. One that will collapse and leave MANY MORE homeless, starving, and dying. While my belief in "peak oil" has flip-flopped, the current gas/oil prices based on a perception of shortened supply lend credibility to the notion that peak oil is indeed a harsh reality that will make Katarina seem like a screaming 2 year old by comparison. Indeed, we should give peak oil a proper name. Let's go for "Charles" or "Jeffrey" (ala Charles Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer...) Makes that 2 year old seem insignificant by comparison. (note how I'm still struggling to keep the treasonous offshoring out of my argument...)

Never mind the atypical strength OF Katrina. Even Camille, the #2 hurricane, wasn't nearly as horrendous. And we've had a lot of other tsunami incidents as well in the recent past. Is it merely global warming? Or another man-made process we don't know about? (or what we can fathom but have no scientific proof to justify it - such as drilling for oil too deeply or drilling in the wrong area...?)

Ultimately, I do believe Katrina is serving a higher purpose. Whether caused by our own mis-actions or by a Deity that has had enough of Its own increasingly errant/unlearning Creation*, I can not say or fathom. And by what is to happen, Katarina is fairly small. (yes, I may appear insensitive - but that is the farthest from the truth. And even other big-time lefties I know of won't even ask in-depth by my apparent disinterest in Katarina. But I am an observer who has seen events and signs leading to things far, far worse that's going to leave far, far more people in far worse trouble. At least a hurricane is instantaneous by comparison.)


* learning is more than just adding 1 and 1 to make 2. I mean learning about each other. We continue to distance ourselves from nature. We continue to distance ourselves from each other via movies, tv, portable stereos... anything to keep us in our own cozy realm than to be with other people. Life is NOT about that damn plastic box. It's going out to watch the theatre, listen to a band performing live, going to events and doing things. Not sitting like a moldy lump in a chair getting fat and diabetic. It is not about things and bowing to things. Katrina taught me that too. Especially with the news coverage that seemed to be salivating when talking about all the property (which had gone on for what seemed like two DAYS continuous, no less). Property? How about the people? Or WHAT COULD have made Katrina so strong? Or is making people THINK too much for the newscasters to handle; they prefer parrots instead?

Even if it isn't global warming or anything else, life is never static. Always dynamic, always moving. And "possessions" only make us more adherent to the fallacy of staticness. Like epoxy. That is one reason why I am slowly starting to sell off (and have already given away) most of my things. I still have my credit cards (which will be what modern "society" shall be remembered for) to pay off but I've already tallied that should the second-to-worst happen, I'll be able to pay it off and not declare bankruptcy, which contrary to popular belief truly is the worst thing TO do. And if the economy crumbles, then the whole world is flushed down the toilet along with us. At that point it'll make no difference what ANYBODY owes.

Sorry to digress so often. It's inevitable and invariable that I'm bound to branch into other topics. But people respond to Katrina as if nothing else bad can happen and given how things are (energy supply, offshoring, other nations teaming up to do military drills - nations known to not always be friendly with the US such as Russia and China, amongst others) and Katrina is merely a wake-up alarm from an old alarm clock whose buzzer mechanism is underpowered yet knows that its got a bigger buzzer to use should the recipient not wake up.

No, so much is set in place and so much is on the brink of total disaster that Katrina is gumdrops by comparison. It just hasn't happened yet and it doesn't take much analysis to show that it's unavoidable without causing at least one element to collapse in on itself. Indeed, people have already KILLED to get gas priced at $2.50 per gallon. And never mind that same gas is $3.20 now... (and like in a post I'd written up for GD yesterday, those in power will NOT make any sacrifices on their part because they are too used to their way of life to change to allow the rest of us to live. But don't worry, the Bible mentions other civilizations that met an untimely end because of the greed and selfishness and hostility on the part of those who controlled those... once again, humanity by and large has NOT evolved and, once again, the Book of the Universe is about to turn the page. Our page is up. Too many words and scribblings and it's time to turn over and start anew. The trouble is, it's impossible to carry over the words from the previous page. And all of us are the words. It's just a matter of time.)

Katrina has been a final wakeup call for me. And I must remember that the next time I see a DVD I wish to purchase. I need to stick with my friends and go out to LIVE life. Not sit in front of the radiation-emitting box to watch people act like fools. (so much for my thoughts of becoming a famous comedy TV writer, I will not contribute to the ills of society...)


** Can things be turned around? Only if those in charge will restructure society. There are two problems, however: 1. They are too set in their standard of living. They profit by us or by anybody who has got money or is willing to enslave themselves, at the expense of us. 2. People who haven't realized the Truth of Life are still addicted to their tvs and portable music and business schedules and "nuclear families" (though "nucular" seems more apropos a designation) and so on. 3. (bonus) Tie 1 and 2 together and that means nixing computers, tv, EVERYTHING technological except what's needed for crops AND mass public transit. And that sure as hell won't happen. A pity as this would reduce pollution CONSIDERABLY along with our "need" for electricity. #3 would significantly reduce our need for energy, but most people are not able to change. In short, an agricultural society based on being social rather than being in our living rooms watching a glowing piece of glass with our prerecorded portable musicboxes is the answer. And we both know, for most, that is not possible. Or for all of us, the way things are destined to be. We collectively made our own prison. And I fear we're about to be caved in by its rotting infrastructure.


And now I'm going to buy the new season of "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" on DVD. (that's heavy sarcasm... I'm weaning myself off my plastic fantastic lover... not deepening the addiction.)
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:53 PM
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32. I was so inspired by your post,
I reminded myself I had put myself on an internet time limit--and logged off to get some things done.

So thank you, for your honesty and profound thoughts.

It's one of the things I love about this forum, that I can get the benefit of so many varied thoughts and ideas. Constant reminders that even if the good doesn't outweigh the bad of our society, there's still a lot of good left in the world.

Thank you for that. I appreciate it so much more than my limitied vocabulary and thoughts allow me to express at this time.

:hug:



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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:20 PM
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7. There Isn't
But, i know truth and respect are on my side. Dumbasses are not relevant.
The Professor
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:30 PM
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11. I like that a lot...
dumbasses are not relevant

:applause:

Simple, but effective. Thank you.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:37 PM
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12. It's Part Of My Root Philosophy
The Professor
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:17 PM
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22. If I made that my mantra
and told myself this EVERYTIME I hear a remark from an obvious 'dumbass', I have a feeling I would feel SO much better, about the world, life, everything!

I have a tendency to give their comments too much of my time and energy, unfortunately.

must. stop. doing. that.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:21 PM
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24. I'll Send You My Bill!
Hee hee! I truly hope it helps you to get some calm in life. It's works for me, and if i didn't think that way, i'd have gone postal by now. But, i've convinced myself, it just isn't worth getting THAT angry.
The Professor
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:42 PM
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14. I just got back from taking my dog for a rollerskate.
I have'nt skated since the hurricane. (I have'nt done much of anything since the hurricane.) It was great. I put on my music and let the movement of skating and the music consume me. I like to figure skate. The sun felt great and I got an excellent sweat out of the adventure. I highly recommend some music, sunshine, and some movement. :smoke:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:44 PM
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16. That's great, Lilyhoney
sounds like a really nice time! :)
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:46 PM
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17. I know that all four of my children
From my oldest who is a soldier to my youngest who is a punk rocker are polically aware. They know * is a disaster. They are caring, loving, involved human beings. I have enough influence on them to remind them to THINK, and think for themsleves. Funny how they all drew progressive conclusions. I don't shove my ideas down their throat, I want them to learn. They all vote.I have a new born grandson. His other family are Rwingers. They have NOTHING on the influence I will have on that boy on how to THINK for himself. I stand firm, and I won't give in. I'll never stop fighting. When I see my children I have hope.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:18 PM
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23. That's awesome--you sound like an amazing parent.
Thank you for sharing this!

I guess the most important thing is attitude, and making a conscious decision to NOT give in to their negativity.

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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:48 PM
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18. I read the individual accounts of survival-
those give me hope for humanity. I believe that, collectively, we're "hardwired" to help each other. The media glorifies the bad shit and loves to run with it, distorting reality (as we so well know).

I hold on to the stories like the one about the 3 students from Duke U. who were able to do alot of good in their small way. There's alot more like that-the fishermen who tried to get to help rescue but were turned away by FEMA.

And when all else fails, I go to my studio and create art or weave- to keep sane.
BTW, just read about Project Linus-people that make quilts, afghans, blankets, etc. for disaster victims-especially children, so now I have an "assignment" to be able to DO something to help. :hi:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:22 PM
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25. Thank you for reminding me of Project Linus...
:dunce:

I have a few blankets I started ages ago, and didn't finish. Perfect time to do so.

Sometimes, in weak moments, I forget what you just said--The media glorifies the bad shit and loves to run with it, distorting reality.

I tune msm out so much, but then I come here or other places on the internet. It's easy to get swept up in all the reports of 'gloom, doom and everything falling apart.' kwim?

I shouldn't do that...

Thank you for your response, and the important reminders! :hi:
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:50 PM
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20. Denial.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 07:51 PM by Akoto
Just kidding. :D

I try to not watch the news, because it's not what it was during my parents' time. Everything is sensationalized and blown out of proportion, for the benefit of the network's ratings if not the administration's.

Other than that, you just have to laugh and find the positive side of the world. Humor is most important.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:24 PM
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26. You're right--
I"ve given too much power to msm, and their sensationalized accounts of what is going on (and not going on, if you kwim).

Thanks for the reminders...!

:hi:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:37 PM
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28. I find excessive positivity..
... to be nothing less than a form of self delusion. I believe self delusion is very dangerous.

On the other hand, there are lots of good things in my life right now (wife, kids, plans) and I don't have to psych myself up to be positive about them. :)

But America, well - things aren't looking too damn good IMHO.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:47 PM
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31. I agree
it's hard to not look at America and see that (things not looking to good, to paraphrase you).

It's great you have a family and plans in your life--that IS positive!

Thanks for sharing! :hi:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:38 PM
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29. by having several of my electrons stripped off my surface
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:25 PM
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37. Damn, you beat me to it!
I love humorous Physics answers!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 08:38 PM
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30. I bombard myself with positively charged ions (nt)
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:58 PM
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33. Because we HAVE to.
We don't stand a chance of getting our country back if we give up. Depression won't help or change things. Strength and determination are what we have to nurture. We have to stand together. Don't watch Fox. They can't tell or even handle the truth, so why waste you time watching? And Freeper boards? They're all nuts. Stay away from them. Why contaminate your mind with their nonsense?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:22 PM
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35. Hi caty--
Just found this, and wanted you to know that I saw what you said. You're right--looking at those boards, what they say at all is such a huge waste of time and energy. I've been doing my best to stay away. It's tough sometimes when DU'ers bring their ideas from their boards here.

But again, you are right. Thank you so much for your positive thoughts and encouragement!

:hi:
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:27 PM
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42. One of the
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:28 PM by caty
principles of Buddhism is to associate with like minded people. I think that also applies to what we read and watch on T.V. I'm not saying that we should hide our heads in the sand--but why read or watch something that you know is going to go against everything you believe in?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:22 AM
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43. I'm sorry if this is too personal
I don't intend to pry--but you piqued my curiousity. Are you a practicing Buddhist?

:hi:
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:56 AM
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46. I am a
:hug: Buddhist Humanist.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:57 PM
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49. Very cool.
:hug:

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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:59 PM
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34. Weed. n/t
*
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:25 PM
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36. I'm not sure I have.
My stress level and anxiety have increased in the last 10 days by a great deal.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:38 PM
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38. I rode a horse once...
...can I be a FEMA director?????
I had placed a post calling for a doctor over in GD yesterday addressing some of the stress related problems which I have been noticing here in the DU, especially here in the lounge. I found a doctor who claimed that the DU is a great place to relieve that stress by talking about it. :grouphug:
I also saw today on CNN a refugee who looked happy enough, when the reporter asked about this she responded with: Didn't your mother tell you that laughter is good for times like this? (Hence my horse thingy)
btw there is an incredible sunset going on outside my window, wish I could share
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:46 PM
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39. I try to take my meds
and stay away from mainstream media.

Seriously, I am in a clinical depression. It's not only difficult to deal with a lot of this shit on a daily, non-medicated basis, but try coping with it all and taking meds at the same time.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:03 PM
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40. There are a few things
First I realize that I am a human and can only do what I can do. I don't have super powers.

I am very influenced by Eastern philosophies and keep myself aware of suffering.

I always remind myself of the story of the man who complained he had no shoes until he saw the man with no feet.

As for the big picture, I see the suffering and injustice in the world and it can be pretty painful. I do what I can do to make lives better and to help where I can, but once again I know I am one person. If you have it in your mind that you are going to save the world, it will drive you crazy, raise your stress levels (which will kill you very quick) and bring too much negativity into your own life. That is not a way to help people because you are putting yourself through some hardships that hinder your own positivity.

Considering that life has been going on on this planet for millions of years, I look at the positive things that go on and not just the negative. In just the last 30 years advancements have been made that has made this a better world. Hands across America, Live Aid, The fall of the Berlin wall, end of the cold war, Farm aid are just a few things that quickly come to mind that I have witnessed where people have come together for the betterment of their fellow man. Of course the list could go on and on.

I don't believe we are heading toward the "end of the world" or something drastic, I see too many good things by everyday people that gives me hope. Even though I saw the bullshit that went on with this recent disaster, I also saw a hell of a lot of citizens helping a lot of strangers for the only reason that they were people. And good people.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:25 AM
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44. I like your perspective..
you're right, there still is a lot of good in the world. It's easy to get bogged down by all the other stuff. You really have to make a conscious effort to see the other side, or go crazy. LOL!

Thank you for sharing your outlook--I really appreciate it!

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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:11 PM
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41. You've GOT TO remain positive.
Spread your energy and thoughts among those whom you can influence, including strangers and the ones you love.

We have no other choice.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:54 PM
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48. Hi Floogeldy--
Good to see you!

I know that you are right. I just have to stop opening those threads titled,' What the Freeper boards are saying about Katrina refugees...' etc.

I've turned off CNN and am focusing on what I can do to help them, and making a conscious effort to look at and acknowleddge the good work of others.

Thanks for your positive words!

:hi:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:53 PM
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60. Great to see you!
I'm totally with you, bliss, and I thank you for your guidance. :)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:31 AM
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45. Good question
I've been having a very hard time of it myself as those who've been reading some of my recents posts are aware. However I'm beginning to bounce back (no chunky-chick jokes here :evilgrin: ) via a multi-pronged approach. It isn't easy though...
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:44 PM
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47. ((((BuffytheFundieSlayer)))
I'm Pm-ing you...
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:12 PM
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50. Drugs-oh ok serious
I don't watch FOX. Why bother? They're lying sacks of shite. I don't read the Freeper boards. Why? Because they are as thick as pig shit and think Rush Limbaugh and The Heritage Foundation are acceptable sources of info.

I dunno if there is more good than bad, but I choose to not infect myself with the shitstorm of hyperbolic bullshit that's just thrown out there to influence the braindead in this society.

Fuck the right. I much rather use my time and brain space for the left.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:29 PM
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51. I've never watched Fox...
I happened upon them one day--channel surfing after a big incident I think. Matthews was the commentator--I was immediately disturbed, and rather annoyed (his speaking patterns, make it hard to listen to him, at least for me).

I just didn't care for it, and didn't feel like I was getting information, just opinions. Shows like that don't last with me. (Editorializing, so to speak). So I chose, then and there to never watch it again--the show, the network, none of it.

Later I learned that the network was like that ALL the time, and what I saw wasn't an anomaly.



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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:31 PM
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52. Scary, isn't it?
:scared:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:42 PM
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53. Oh--there are no words...
Seriously, the first time I heard about Limbaugh, I was just kind of bemused. I honestly (naively) thought, no one would want to hear that shit. Boy, was I wrong!!

I was blown away to find out, while I wasn't paying attention they had managed to create an entire network based on that stuff...:wow:

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:50 PM
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54. who says i've remained positive
it is now clear to me that a southern life and a yankee life is not counted the same in this country

i don't recall having to put up w. commercial interruptions while trying to get news abt 9-11

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:00 PM
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55. I'm disturbed by the difference in national reaction between the two
events.

I don't watch the tube so maybe I have it wrong. But there was a sense of national mourning on 9-11 that I'm not getting now.

We don't know the death toll, but it was probably at least as large as 9-11, and the number of lives affected (by people losing everything) is quite a bit larger.

I don't know. But it's upsetting. damned upsetting.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 PM
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56. it's much bigger than 9-11
biloxi alone 1,000 dead

st. bernard parish another 1,000 dead

a little town like waveland 50 dead

bay st. louis several hundred

no information i've seen released abt gulfport, a city, not a town, but those banana shipping containers sprayed across what used to be the town don't look good

in st. tammany parish they are saying 6 dead, w. the flooding in slidell & trees down & #s of crushed houses this can't even be close to accurate

no accurate information for orleans

none for jefferson i've seen, although upper jefferson parish is starting to be cleared

rumors that empire, louisiana is under water and off the map

it goes on & on

we don't even know the elderly dead in rural counties and parishes where old people have been without power for 10 days, i had to wait for roads to be cleared to be able to get into a rural area to check on a friend

there are huge lists of the missing

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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:21 PM
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57. I'm relentlessly optomistic....
I have been my entire life. I'm not entirely sure why. I think that as long as I am doing my part to make the world a better place, I feel ok. I wish more of my fellow humans were altruistic, but I accept them for their flaws. I'm ok with the flaws, even when people do really disappointing things. I dislike injustice, but I sleep better knowing that there are some good people out there working really hard to make things better for people. Being in a social work program, I am around these people a lot, so I always have that breath of fresh air. Maybe that makes the optimism easier.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:28 PM
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58. Paraphrasing a sign at the Astrodome
"Don't give up hope, because hope is all we have"

If somebody in such dire straits as that can keep hope, so can I.
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:59 PM
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59. I remind myself that I like life.
I do. I'm happy to be here. It's a beautiful planet, and I'm lucky to have a little slice of awareness in this big ole fandango. When I see other people, look them in the eye, most of the time I see goodness.

I recoil, as most of you do, at the Big Hairy Evil we're facing as a species right now. But I remember that, no matter what happens on this plane, someday I'll head on back from whence I came.

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