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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:31 AM
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Enough with the Lance....
I have a feeling I might be alone in this view, but I am SICK of Lance Armstrong.

I don't care how fast he pedals his bicycle up the hills in France, and I don't care how many times he does it. I don't care about the size of his heart (literally or figuratively), or who he is married to. I just don't care.

AND, I have always been bothered that his name sounds like an action figure or an adult film actor, but that is beside the point.

I am sure people will say that he is an example of courage, strength, etc. And that he is America personified. I understand that and I still don't care.

I am hopeful that he will be relegated to Gatorade and deodorant commercials, just like Andre Agassi.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:36 AM
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1. You May Not Care - But His Victories Are An Outstanding Achievement
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:38 AM
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2. I think he'll be happy as pie
Just snuggling up with Cheryl Crow.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:39 AM
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3. I like Armstrong. I think America should always be reminded that hard work
has its reward.

Armstrong didn't get where he was because of who his father was. Of course, there are some accidents of birth involved. But I'm sure there are many others physically capable of what he does, but don't work as hard as Armstrong does (especially considering the way he fought back from cancer).

He's winning those races because he works harder than anyone else and Americans need to know that that's still possible.

I also think it'd be great if all international conflict could be channeled through sport rather than through violence and economic oppression.

And I think his cameo in Dodgeball is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:57 AM
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4. I don't think he will worry that you don't care.
In the meantime those of us who do are proud of his accomplishments and wish him well. I think thats appropriate on the day of his retirement.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:08 PM
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5. Agassi still plays my friend
he is out now with an injury. Perhaps if you looked into the good deeds these two men have done, and their charities you might feel better. I have no love for sports figures just because they are good at ball or whatever but judge them by their good works. Both of these men have done much for their communities and charities.
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StuckinBFE Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:52 PM
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15. I agree
I don't think we should admire and worship sport figures but if you look at what Lance has done it is amazing and should be motivation to everyone.

And as far as sports figures go you have to admire him, he never whined or didn't compete cause they didn't pay him enough, he is always a gracious and respectful competitor (but that is true among all of cycling). If leader crashes by freak accident during the race his other competitors will slow down so they can rejoin the group. No cyclist wants to win over a stupid accident.

Plus Lance's charities have donated millions of dollars into research for a cure to cancer.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:24 PM
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26. And I admire Lance's
choice of a girlfriend. :)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:11 PM
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6. Then turn the channel when you see him
or anything about him. If you are so sick of him why start this thread on him? It is just more about him....
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:14 PM
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7. A pair of posts about it.
I suspect that you really DO care.

:think:
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:14 PM
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8. Well, including your post there are exactly 2 posts about him on
the first 4 pages of GD.



Do you want to make a main post about anything else you don't care about?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:27 PM
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9. An impeccable observation.
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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:28 PM
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10. Spare me from your sports hero adulation
And I admit that I care enough to bitch about it.

My point is that for seven years I have endured Lance and his Pedals of Death and I am glad it's over.

And, I will add, I fully expected people to disagree with me. Although from people responses, you would have thought I crapped on a picture of Dale Earnhart at a Bush rally.

He is just an athlete. His 'hard work' is nothing compared to the hard work that your kids teachers do. Or the guys in 114 degree heat fixing our roads do. Those are things that (to me) deserve adulation.

Not Lance.

Sorry for the disagreement fellow lefties.

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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:44 PM
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11. What I don't like....
it's not Lance himself, I think his accomplishment is great.

It's how he'll be treated, he'll be hyped as the Second Coming before long, and he's only one man who's done something great.

We choose to recognize some people who have done great things, and others get next to little or no recognition. :)

Plus, I always root for the underdog. ;)
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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:49 PM
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13. If i were more articulate...
I would have probably said the same thing. Well said.

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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:50 PM
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14. I think they ALL deserve adulation
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 12:51 PM by LeftPeopleFinishFirs
Including Lance. There are different facets of life that different people fulfill. All these facets are important. I think your disdain for sports is obvious, but I would remind you sports do have a deserved place in society and this country's culture. While I'd agree we all think athletes are paid too much, or get too much attention... it doesn't mean we have to discredit those (Like Lance) who do excel in sports.

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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:55 PM
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16. No disdain for sports
I love competitive sports. I will even sit though an entire Colorado Rockies baseball game (urghh) because i enjoy the competition. There is just something specifically about Armstrong that rubs me the wrong way. Probably something in my past (ridiculed by a man in spandex maybe).

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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:56 PM
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17. Sounds like a personal problem.
nt
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:04 PM
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20. If you have 'endured' it for seven years
then you have a problem I think. If I don't like something I avoid it, not allow it to become an 'endurance' of seven years.
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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:23 PM
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25. I can be annoyed if i want
It's my right to spend my Sunday afternoon arguing things that are pointless. I realize that Armstrong winning 7 times doesn't affect me directly. I dont care. I just wanted to vent. Just cause you disagree doesnt minimize my opinion. In fact, YOU ALL decided to chime in on something that is totally pointless. So, as i see it, we are all in it together.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:12 PM
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23. Ha!
:spray: "Although from people responses, you would have thought I crapped on a picture of Dale Earnhart at a Bush rally." :rofl: That was funny. I don't get too worked up about Lance Armstrong or any other sports figures either, for that matter. At any rate, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter if others here agree with you or not.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:05 PM
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31. Sports hero adulation? Ha! My adulation is reserved for really important
people, like rock stars and television personalities.

:P


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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:46 PM
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12. Lance is awesome!
:headbang:
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I Know How To Do it Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:58 PM
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18. Normally I would tend to agree about the over adulation of sports
figures, but not this time.
This particular feat is astonishing. To the point of all time sports performances ever.
Lance is a freaking machine.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:02 PM
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19. so ignore the news articles ..
I happen to think he has made some great strides in his life. He deserves ALL the accolades.

It's time we enjoyed the successes of people. NOT everything has to be negative yanno?


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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:06 PM
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21. One way or the other, it's over
Unless he un-retires, I have nothing else to bitch about. If he gets into politics however....

I am not comfortable with his closeness with GWB. Although he did speak against invading Iraq...


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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:18 PM
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24. so it's his
politics you really want to talk about?

I don't think he's discussed a whole lot of political stuff anywhere.
I don't think Sheryl Crow would have a relationship with someone who was more republican inclined.

what is it that really bugs you so much about Lance Armstrong that has made you 'endure' for 7 years all the adulation and press?

I'd be willing to bet Lance Armstrong knows a LOT more about endurance than you (or I) do.

aA

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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:09 PM
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22. You know what?
I think I'll celebrate his accomplishment with some pomme frites, apple pie, Beaujolais, & hot dogs. When I'm done cooking, I'm going to put on Triplets of Belleville. (I should know better than feeding the trolls, but sometimes you gotta say what the hell...)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:27 PM
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:28 PM
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30. I love it when you give yourselves away
:eyes:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:27 PM
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33. I didn't get to read the reply, but I think you pushed the right buttons!
:thumbsup:
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:24 PM
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27. I'm impressed and respect what he's done
but I don't give a rat's ass about his t.v appearances and the like.
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Bzzzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:26 PM
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28. Lance...
is the world's GREATEST athlete ever!!!
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:20 PM
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32. Lance is one of the few things America has to be proud of right now...
I do not get into jingoisitic displays of national pride, but I have to admit that when I was in Paris 2 years ago (my visit there coincided with the end of the Tour de France), I had a definite lump in my throat when he zoomed by on his bike and there were a sea of people - Americans and other nationalities - cheering him on and waving small American flags. He's about what's GOOD about our country. And it's okay that you don't care, as long as you don't have a problem with those of us who do. :-)
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:26 PM
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34. Aw, fuck it...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:26 PM by Squatch
I don't care that you don't care.
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