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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:01 AM
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Well, we MAY have been exposed to asbestos
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 09:38 AM by Modem Butterfly
As many of you know, our old house that we lived in for six years is about to be torn down by developers. We got a good offer on it, one that our lawyer advised us we couldn't really refuse due to imminent domain. Before we moved out, some asbestos inspectors came by to check the place out, since, by Georgia law, any structure built between 1920 and 1978 has to be checked for asbestos. We had the place checked before we bought it and were told we had nothing to worry about, so I knew things were fine.

This AM, I was feeling nostalgic and swung by our old house. I pulled up our long driveway and caught a glimpse of our bedroom window with the windowseat our dog liked to stare out of, our graceful porch where our swing used to be, and our nine-paned front door, taped up with a big plastic bag and a sign that said: "WARNING: ASBESTOS"

WTF?

I've left a message for our attorney. Since the presence of asbestos would delay them from knocking the place down, and since we didn't put any in, I am reasonably sure we have been exposed to asbestos for the last six years. I feel physically ill.

Edited for title. It's not actually for certain we were exposed, but it's still really scary.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:02 AM
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1. Don't worry.
It was typically used to insulate so as long as you didn't do a lot of destructive remodeling it was safely sealed away.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:06 AM
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3. We did do quite a bit of remodeling in the kitchen and dining room
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:09 AM
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4. Did you uncover any ductwork or steam pipes?
Asbestos was usually used to wrap those.

Or, like misunderestimator said, on the outside in siding. No concern there.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:19 AM
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7. We did
When the inspectors came before we moved out, they also checked the kitchen and bathroom floors and the paint in each of the bedrooms, the hall, bathroom and dining room.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:21 AM
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9. It sure sounds like the inspection was thorough...
did they analyze the siding?
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:22 AM
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10. It's a clapboard house, but yeah
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:30 AM
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11. According to this site:
http://web.princeton.edu/sites/ehs/pmguide/sec_12.htm

Some clapboard-style products contained asbestos up until 1980. Then there's the shingles, too...
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:31 AM
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12. I hope you're right. I'm seriously pissed we were told it was clear
SERIOUSLY pissed. We had the place inspected before we moved in, so I have no idea how thorough that inspection was.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:04 AM
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2. I wouldn't be sure you were exposed... The asbestos probably was
contained within the walls or the siding or the ceiling material. I had a house that was built in 1820 and it had siding installed in the 1950's that was made of asbestos. It would only be a problem for us if we had needed to dispose of it, residing the house, or whatever.

You should find out where the asbestos is. If it was on the exterior of the house, I wouldn't be concerned.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:09 AM
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5. That doesn't mean you've been exposed
A lot of old buildings still have asbestos in them, but it's okay as long as you don't disturb it.

I think the sign was meant as a warning to the people knocking the place down, as that certainly WOULD disturb it and send it into the air.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:17 AM
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6. Most houses had asbestos in them
It's not dangerous unless it's flaking or you remodeled. Find out where it is.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:20 AM
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8. Our attorney usually calls back within a day or so
Since we don't own the place anymore, I don't think I can get any info from the developer. I'm really pissed that we were told we were clear.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:55 AM
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13. Ask the workers
at your old house. I've found that the workers often know more and will tell you more than anyone else. BTW, the term for the flaky asbestos is fryable. Ask the worker's how bad it is and also what the asbestos readings are. Generally, a legitimate contractor takes readings all over the house before and after removal.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:12 AM
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14. That's a good idea
The old house is close enough to work that I could run up there on my lunch hour and see if anyone is working on the place (I understand that they'll have to remove the asbestos before tearing it down). But I still want to see what my attorney can dig up, because if we were exposed, I'm going after the inspectors who told us it was clear.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:25 AM
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15. Actually, there is a good chance you were exposed to asbestos
when you renovated your kitchen/dining room. The block and pipe covering was probably made of asbestos. The inspectors wouldn't have caught it because they took an air sampling before the renovation, which means your air quality was probably fine during the time you were living in the house, but for the short time the renovation took place.

However, the good news is that unless you took years to renovate your kitchen, your exposure time was probably not long enough to do any long term damage to your health. Also, if you did the renovation and weren't bothered by dust, you probably didn't inhale enough of the stuff for it to be a health issue.

Most (as in almost all) asbestos claims filed are brought by people who worked with or near the product for many years at a time - insulators, welders, pipe fitters, general laborers, etc. Occassionally, household claims are filed, but those are most often by the wife who laundered her husband's clothing.

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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:31 AM
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16. Asbestos can be in many many things, older wiring, floorcovering
It shouldn't hurt you unless it is disturbed and the fibers become airborn. I used to sell floor covering and it was always a concern when our customers were having old lino/vinyl/asphalt tile flooring removed.

Here's a portion of a list I found on the net at this site:
http://www.asbestosnetwork.com/asbestos/de_prod.htm

Insulation (Pipe, boiler, corrugated aircell, breaching, and block insulation; HVAC duct insulation; sprayedin insulation; blownin insulation; thermal paper products; electrical wiring insulation)

Fireproofing/Acoustical Texture Products (includes acoustical plaster, decorative plaster, textured paint or coatings, fire blankets, fire curtains, fire doors)

Textile and Cloth Products (includes blankets, protective cloth coverings, garments, asbestos gloves, threads, cords, yarns, braids)

Spackling, Patching & Taping Compounds (includes caulking, putties, joint compounds, adhesives, tapes, thermal taping compounds

More listed at website..

As a kid I remember asbestos oven mitts, ironing board covers etc.
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