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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:00 PM
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I am punk.
But you already knew that :D
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:01 PM
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1. Hear you roar?
In numbers too big too ignore?
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:38 PM
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12. That's "woman" - I am "woman" hear me roar.
Goober :P
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:39 AM
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33. Oh yeah, right...
How silly of me.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:01 PM
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2. me too
with elements of funk and jazz
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:38 PM
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13. Big Audio Dynamite?
:shrug:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:53 PM
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15. possibly.
More Minutemen & fIREHOSE
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:04 PM
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3. "We Are Punk:/Monarchy and TestPoy"
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:05 PM
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4. I don't always get you, but I have grown fond of you!
:D
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:13 PM
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5. Vice Versa
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 11:15 PM by swag
I like you, punk!

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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:21 PM
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6. You also know the way to my heart! Let's see:
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 11:21 PM by JimmyJazz


I never bite my nails, and I never wear jackets like this either. Joe Strummer

Bo Diddley wears jackets like this though. Mick Jones
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:30 PM
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7. Aren't we all.
"Punk is the personal expression of uniqueness that comes from the experiences of growing up in touch with our human ability to reason and ask questions."

--Greg Graffin
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:34 PM
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8. Nice.
You just pick up a chord, go twang and you've got music...Sid Vicious :D

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:37 PM
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10. If it takes that many words to describe punk
You ain't punk
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:51 PM
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14. I should knock your fucking teeth out for that.
But luckily for you, I'm "not punk"
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:55 PM
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16. Jump Around......
Man punk is just punk. the word says it all.

Her's my definition

Fuck you to the world.
And fuck you for making it this way.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:00 AM
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18. I've never believed it was that simple
But that was definitely a big part of it, and certainly the genesis of it all.

I think it's more because people have made it more.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:11 AM
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22. It really is that simple...
Look I was around it in the beginning, back in the mid to late seventies.

Cleveland had nothing, nothing but we had a hole mess of punk bands...

They rebelled because they had been left nothing by their parents except a burning fuckin' river, a rotting downtown, a mass migration out, no jobs, you name it. We were like the Liverpool of the US...

Think Flint without Michael Moore...

Now I was heavily into the drinking and going wild part at that time, hung out with a mess of punks and they were just rebelling because it was the only thing left to do....

You get it. There was no Future. It was really fucking bleak....

So that's why I think the whole attitude of punk is Fuck you. That's the only expression there is. Anything else was just layered on top of it by people who weren't into it before it became a fashion sub genre....
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:18 AM
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24. There are many ways to say "Fuck you".
I think Punk can deal in the higher ideas and still say Fuck You.

I'll admit it, I think Punk rock grew up a little bit.

That's my impression, but I'm sure you can (and maybe should) easily dismiss me, because I wasn't quite old enough to directly experience the first wave.

Anyway,
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:30 AM
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26. I am not being dismissive...
In the end it's just pop music which is a reflection of the popular culture at a particular time.....

So adding more into than that is kind of defeats the purpose....

Look, Punk is punk. Avril Lava brain thinks she is punk because she snarls and frowns at a camera....

Well yea, part of it is attitude but the true expression of punk, in it's early days, wasn't to say fuck you as a way of saying look at me look at me....

It was a cry of frustration and an expression of rage as we watched the industrial world of our parents crumble down about us...

Think about it. Punk sprung up from the factory city's of the older industrial countries like Britain, Germany and the US. In many of those city's there was nothing there. The generation before us had turned into themselves and were walking zombies, not hippies but people who grew up in the 40's and 50's..... All that was great was crumbling down around the middle class.....

They won the war and lost their future when it finally came....

Man I'm going off on a wild tangent here....

In the US, Greenwich Village was a haven for artist in the 30's 40's 50's. But it crumbled into block after block of burned out city . And that's were the punks went...

Now it's gentrified........ Some monument heh...

Anyway, tell me to fuck off if you want, in the true spirit of punk, but I just wanted to give you a little perspective about the 70's.....

Of course, musically, it was a rebellion against Disco.... and power pop groups like Boston and Foreigner.....
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:51 AM
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29. I didn't mean dismissive in the bad way
I mean your view of the original punk movement is much clearer and less obscurred than mine. When discussing the spirit of the punk movement, my opinion should be discounted, as it is not first hand.

In other words, I'll take your word for it.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:56 AM
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31. Nah, I'm just an old fart venting....
You did good........

Keep that fuck you snarl and don't trust authority. That'll get you farther than a mohawk.....
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:14 AM
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46. Dude! CLEVELAND!
Rocket from the Tombs, the Dead Boys, Pere Ubu......sweet merciful crap, man that's FANTASTIC! Damn I would have liked to have been around for that!

Unfortunately the closest I got was Minneapolis in the late 80s/early 90s....too late for Husker Du and the Replacements, and too early for Polara and Semisonic. All we got was the warmed-over arena rock of Soul Asylum. Meh.

:toast:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:29 PM
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53. I went ot College with one of the dead boys.....
He was a jerk, but hey what was I expecting. He now writes a column for the Cleveland Plain Dealer.. Go Figure.....

Husker Du, I got one of there albums around here some place....

Pere Ubu was always cool, but more experimental than punk....

I hung around with some of the guys who went ina nd out of bands, I was too drunk most of the time to appreciate what was going on but then again, so where they......

It was really cool but very depressing in Cleveland at that time....
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:05 AM
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20. See that sounds like Decarte
Not Johnny rotten
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:09 AM
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21. Who's to say he wouldn't have turned out a punk?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 12:11 AM by Mojambo
Or how Johnny Rotten would have turned out, had they switched the times they were born in?

P.S - There's a fun TV Show. Descartes and Johnny Rotten traveling through time and solving mysteries.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:15 AM
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23. Steve Allen use to do this show on PBS...
Meeting of the minds. He'd get actors to play various historical figures and they would discuss amongst themselves.....

It could be a hoot....

We use to imagine panels like this

Tonight, Leonardo Da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther and Charo discuss relision in the twentieth century......

If you are too young to remember Charo, think Britney Spears with an accent...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:22 AM
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25. Charo. She's the one who goes "goochie goochie" right?
Yeah, I know her.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:34 AM
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27. Yea that's her.........
I should start a thread about meeting of the minds,,

Or maybe you.....

I like the Descarte and Johnny rotten
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:53 AM
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30. It'd be a fun semi-regular Lounge thing.
I'll leave it to you to get things rolling.

Holy hell. I need to get to bed.

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:16 AM
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47. She's got more going on than most people think, though
believe it or not, she's not a half-bad flamenco guitarist. She's also got a few more brains than Brittney, too. That and she still looks fabulous for being older than my mom! :P
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:06 PM
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57. I'm kidding....
But to mix Coochie Coochie Choo with Da Vinci was just an absurdist way of looking at history.....

Dada this
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:42 AM
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35. aaah...greg graffin...
:thumbsup:
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:36 PM
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9. punk ass muthafucka
:P
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:37 PM
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11. What's that behind you? It's not a *gasp* shark, is it?
:spank: - I'm going to bed.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:59 PM
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17. You are too old to be a PUNK!
Punks are young...


YU are a CURMUGEON
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:01 AM
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19. "...'I wanna job...I wanna job...I wanna good job...I wanna job...
..one that satisfies...my artistic needs!' - Whadda you think? Kinda punky, huh?"
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:35 AM
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28. Oh yea, Way punk....
Punky Brewster maybe.........
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:42 AM
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34. ha ha ha - I know what you are talking about!
that's one of my favorite movie scenes of all time :spank:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:36 PM
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61. Thank god *someone* knew it!
I might have known it'd be you.

BTW, the CD player in my Jeep has stopped ejecting discs. I have a burned CD of Combat Rock, London Calling, the first Clash LP (UK songlist), System of a Down's "Toxicity", and the first two Police albums stuck in the deck. I haven't been able to get it our for two weeks, and I'm still not sick of it.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:39 PM
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62. It's impossible to be sick of it. I listen to two cd's at the gym
The Chieftans: The Nashville Tapes (?) and The Clash: From Here to Eternity. I never get sick of either of them.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:43 AM
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36. I am an original punk.
and I'm not a curmugeon. :(
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:00 AM
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32. Me too
At least I like to think I am.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:49 AM
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39. Do you own at least one pair of docs or creeepers?
If so, you too, could be punk.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:57 AM
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42. Damn
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 10:58 AM by primate1
I do not. *hangs head in shame*

But I've got heart, coach!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:06 PM
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58. Punks in my day wore black high tops bought
at Gold Circle....
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:44 AM
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37. i might be, i will have to check. nt
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:44 AM
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38. I checked for you. You are.
:o
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FLSurfer Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:50 AM
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40. I might be raising a punk
My daughter has been listening to some pretty good newer type punk for a while and I turned her on to a few bands from my days back in the 80's.
Most of the more core stuff was too much for her, but she picked up on Suicidal Tendencies. Really likes the "All I wanted was a Pepsi"
line.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:08 AM
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43. I have two
I had to raid his room to get back some of my records before he went off to school.
My son from a few years back


My daughter is more goth than punk though.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:53 AM
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41. You're a mommy!
deal with it hun!
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:10 AM
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45. My kids are punk, too.
:D It's my revenge on my mother!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:43 AM
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49. My kid was punk.
Then he was an alcoholic.

Now he's an Evangelical Christian.


So help me Good.



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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:02 PM
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50. A natural progression......
If I ever saw one...
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:16 PM
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51. If he only had some connections
he could probably be President one day, huh?

To extend the cliche'... it was a girl that turned him onto the church.

She and I don't get along (could you guess?)

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:25 PM
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52. Hey I became a Jesus Freak
for awhile just to check out chicks.....
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:02 PM
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55. A mommy who wears combat boots in the pit?
Cool! :headbang:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:09 AM
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44. You look the farthest thing from a punk rocker!
:D

but then again, so do I...
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:38 AM
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48. I know. I know.
But, at one time I had seriously considered having a mohawk. You know, like Annabella Lwin. The only reason I didn't do it was because I thought it would make my ears stick out :D
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:07 PM
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59. One of my friends has a mohawk
Of course, he WAS drunk when he decided to. And my town is one of the only places where you'll see a guy with a mohawk driving a Bentley.
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I Know How To Do it Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:34 PM
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54. A real punk steals from their Mom's purse to buy a shirt from
Macy's new Punk Collection.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:04 PM
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56. Welcome to DU! However:
There's no such thing as "new" punk :D
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:12 PM
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60. That's so JD not Punk......
Punk would grab money and head on down to the salvation army and get what feels right...
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