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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:32 AM
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How Can A Man Properly Seduce A Woman?
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 11:33 AM by Magic Rat
Ladies, you'd probably know best. Spill it.

:)

I'll give you my best summation as how to properly seduce a woman. In five easy steps....

1. Find a woman.

2. Take her out to dinner. Converse. Make her laugh. Make her think.

3. Go out on the town. Take her places. My personal fav is a comedy club. Because all women love to laugh and they serve drinks too. :)

4. Walk her home. Sit on the front steps and talk for a while. Whisper sweet nothings in her ear. Gently stroke the back of her neck. Then mention that you'd love to see her interior decorating skills.

5. Once she's fallen under your spell. Take her back to her room and lay her down on her bed. (note, you're taking her back to her place because your place is obviously filthy) Once she's positioned correctly on the bed, dim the lights and climb on into bed as well.

Nature should take its course here.

Am I leaving anything out?
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marley Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:36 AM
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1. Well
if you are asking women for their advice either:

a: your plan doesn't work

b: you never tried it.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:41 AM
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2. The biggest turn-on is when someone is genuinely attracted to me
To the extent that there is a problem, I'd say that your formula is just a plan for any x, y, or z woman. Could as well be x as y, I assume. That's pretty much a turn-off, all in itself--to just be a place holder for the sex drive.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:42 AM
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3. The dreaded back massager
Nothing says "get me the fuck out of here" faster to a girl than the guy who pulls the old back massage routine on the first few dates.

"Your powers are weak, old man." :silly:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:31 PM
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29. Really?
Never failed me.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:42 AM
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4. the part where you walk home alone to a stack of porn mags?
that crap might work in cinema, but no woman in their right mind would fall for the interior decorating skills line and interpret it to mean "let's go shag". If she lets you rub her neck at all, then you've just put the game in her hands, then she decides if it escalates.

That's my take on it.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:43 AM
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5. Ratty...you need a date
but I fear for her....
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:43 AM
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6. A fifth of Wild Turkey
helps

BAWHAHAHAHAH


DDQM
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:51 AM
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8. Thought you might benefit from this information
Role of Alcohol in Sexual Assaults

Drinking has become a popular social activity. Often, it is seen as a way to set the mood for romance. However, alcohol use is the largest risk factor for sexual assault. Alcohol clouds judgment and decreases motor skills. Thus, a woman who's had a few drinks may not make the best judgments. Nor can she fight off unwanted sexual advances or escape a difficult situation before it gets out of hand.6 Studies have found that when a woman drinks on a date, she has a greater chance of being sexually assaulted by the man.7

This is a problem at many schools. Alcohol often becomes the basis for social contact and is the focus of many parties. Women who drink or are around men who are drinking are at greater risk of being raped or sexually assaulted. In addition, the more alcohol there is on campus, the greater the risk to women.2

For example, one study found that men in fraternities are more likely to try to force a woman to have sex with them after drinking alcohol.8 They are also more likely to give alcohol to women because they think that women who drink are more willing to have sex. In one study, almost 20 percent of the men said they gave or encouraged the use of drugs or alcohol to obtain sex.8 Although not all members of fraternities use alcohol to get sex, women need to be cautious.

It can be seen, then, that drinking has become associated with a woman being available for sex. This belief may lead to sexual assault. A man who sees a woman who is drinking as sexually available may attempt unwanted sexual advances. These could lead to a series of misunderstandings ending in sexual assault.

http://pathwayscourses.samhsa.gov/samhsa_pathways/courses/vawc_6_pg5.htm
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:54 AM
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9. It was a joke
Really

DDQM

But it could be interrupted in bad taste. For that I apologioze

DDQM
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:57 AM
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12. I know you meant it as a joke
and realize that is not the usual tenor of your posts.

I don't think the women who are victims of sexual assault as a result of alcohol use find it amusing and I'm sure you don't want to give the impression to other men that you condone or support this type of behavior. :-)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:25 PM
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:28 PM
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26. So her reminder...
that alcohol is a prime cause of sexual assaults in innapropriate but you calling her names is ok? :eyes:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:51 AM
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7. You weren't looking to get lucky with that game plan were you?
:shrug:

Too obvious
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:56 AM
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11. well obviously
If that was my *actual* gameplan I wouldn't have phrased it as a question.

;)

My real gameplan. My super-secret gameplan. I can never truely reveal. Women would swoon, dogs would bark, cats would meow and men would scratch out their eyeballs in jealousy.

:)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:54 AM
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10. Tell her you're gay!!!!!!!!!!!
Many women (although they are loathe to admit it) are very competitive. This is seen as a challenge.

And yes, Magic Rat, you do need to get out more often.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:17 PM
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19. WHAT???????
A challenge?????

You think women are not smart enough to know that they'd be barking up the wrong tree?

How insulting!
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:36 PM
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32. that's not altogether a joke...
I'm gay - as Magic Rat knows after I threw myself at him -- and I find women to be incredibly open and easy-going with me once I tell them I'm gay. (Been "straight-acting" since high school...swim-team jock..., blah-blah-blah) but ladies love me! I've b een gthe object of seduction by women many times but I'm hardwired toward same-sex stuff.

That said, if straight guys were as comfortable around women some of us gay guys, you'd get laid in spades, guys!

Trouble is, I get nervous around really other hot young male activists who don't bat for my team. So just as you guys don't give a second-thought about being around another real hot guy, some gay guys find it's really, really easy to pal-around with beautiful women. I have some dynamite gal-pals in D.C. who are absolutely gorgeous...and ask my opinion whenever I meet on of their studly dates. If I feel a stirring to jump his bones and I express it to her, let's just say the fella in question is destined to have a very romantic interlude.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:58 AM
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13. I'm a guy, but have some advice
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 11:59 AM by ALago1
Mainly: Don't try too hard!

Trying too hard reeks of desperation and that will send a women running for the hills faster than, well, something that's really fast.

Just focus on having fun! Be carefree, funny, and show that you have a true desire to just have a good time with them.

You should be able to tell whether or not she is digging you, it is not rocket science. If you do think she is likin you, I feel that in most instances with most women, it is better for the guy to make the first move.

Hope that helps! Remember, primarily just look to have fun and the rest will follow!
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:59 AM
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14. That's a damn good question
Wouldn't mind knowing the answer my self and no I don't get out often
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:01 PM
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16. SEE LADIES!!!!
My threads are fun AND educational.

I'm not the only clueless male on DU.

:)
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:00 PM
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15. omg write a book
you will be renowned for your seducing skills.

Lonely men allover will adore you
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:14 PM
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17. For a good laugh
Speed Seduction™ links on Google

Speed Seduction™ is NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) for the purpose of seducing "chycks".

It's funny as hell, but it's no joke. Thousands of horny net geeks worship sex guru Ross Jeffries as their Moses to lead them to the Promised Land of easy sex.

Everything he's ever put out is available on the P2P networks (like Kazaa, Friendster, etc.), even his latest super-top-secret "tech" for getting laid like a rock star.

David DeAngelo is also pretty funny, especially the legal warnings on his $40 pdf books like "Double Your Dating", another P2P favorite.

It's not even about "fleecing the suckers". The sad part is that so many young men are so sexually miserable.

--bkl
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:16 PM
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18. Well, why don't you take me out for a night on the town
and I will definitely give you some lessons, lol!
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:18 PM
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20. you like being wined and dined?
I can dance the hustle like it's nobody's business.

:)
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:23 PM
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21. Another take
pack a picnic lunch on a warm sunny day

make sure the food is good

make sure the conversation is intelligent

compliment her, but not so much as to make her think like you're feeding her a line

walk her home, kiss her goodnight

call the next day and be sure to ask her out again.

Take her out to dinner

make sure food is good

make sure conversation is intelligent

compliment her, but not so much as to make her think you're feeding her a line

walk her to her door, kiss her goodnight

call her the next day and set up another date

Take her to a movie

Take her to coffee after a movie

make sure coffee is good

make sure conversation is intelligent

compliment her, but not so much as to make her think you're feeding her a line

walk her to her door, kiss her goodnight

call her the next day and set up another date.

Keep this up after a while, get to know her. Get to really like her--when you do, you'll think up ways to show her that you like her. When she knows you really like her and are not just seducing her for the challenge, she'll show some interest.






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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:28 PM
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25. Way too expensive and too long
just joking
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:30 PM
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28. some of us are worth it!
:hi:
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:33 PM
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30. Oh I know
love is a many slendid thing
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:35 PM
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31. great image! (n/t)
.
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:42 PM
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33. Good image shame about the spelling
I missed my p
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:26 PM
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23. Just tell her you make lots of money
whao back off ladies I was just kiddin
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:27 PM
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24. That's great if you view sex as a sporting activity, with no thought to
long term consequences or silly things like feelings, emotions and intentions.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:29 PM
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27. Listen to her.
Actually communicating instead of talking is the way to go. :-)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:44 PM
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34. Act like you aren't interested
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:49 PM
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:49 PM
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36. Bah! I prefer to go dancing
How about.

1- Shower (this is a must)put on some very nice clubbing clothes and make sure you smell like something a tad better then right gaurd.
2- I don't care how you do your hair guys, but when you go clubbing leave the going to work look at home. A guy at a club with his hair parted is a n00b.
3- make the call to get on the VIP list +1 your friends can get there on their own you are going with your lady.
4- Pick her up early so that you get there before the place is packed so you can talk to eachother without yelling
5- Chat at the nearly empty bar enjoying your free drinks (thank you VIP list)
6- Once the music gets going dance with your women all night long.

7- Who gives a damn what happens after that, the night has already been excellent.


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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:51 PM
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37. Show her your posts on DU
Print them out and read them to her. If she doesn't fall in love instantly, then you know you've got the wrong girl. ;-)
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:08 PM
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39. You do seem to be trying to attract the Generic Woman
However, there are no generic women. There are only individuals. If you are the male individual who captures her fancy, you won't have to do any seducing (unless she's really shy or inexperienced). She will be flashing green lights at you, and you should hope that you have the smarts to see them. If she's not interested, your schemes will only annoy her.

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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:31 PM
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40. Don't bother with a strategy,
You have no control over the situation, It's a huge roll of them ol' kosmik dice, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding himself.

I've seen some guys with the "best" strategies ever strike out like the Detroit Tigers. I've also seen some completely skanky, clueless shmoes score like banshees.

As they say down here in Georgia: "there ain't no tellin'."
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:31 PM
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41. hey MR
thanks for listening to me (about asking)...

Progress.

One piece of advice...

Work to subvert the (gotta have the sex as the end goal) - and just go have fun - get to know her, see if YOU enjoy the company, if not go meet the next lady... get into enjoying the process and the journey - which will be different with each woman. Bet as you loosen up and enjoy the present (the "here and now" as in the company) you will more quickly weed out those with whom there is no 'click', and find others (or an other) with whom just hangin' is a blast and an adventure - in terms of finding out the next cool event/thing to do.

With the right click - the whole sex thing will follow.

I know it sounds counter intuitive but letting that whole sex thing drive all interactions - often is the thing that prevents any interactions from developing.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:38 PM
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42. very smart advice! (n/t)
.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:41 PM
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43. Don't seduce her
Just be yourself and treat her decently and if she's interested (I believe women make up their minds within a very short amount of time if she's interested in going to that level), she'll seduce you.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:44 PM
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44. I'm gonna help you out...
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 01:46 PM by VelmaD
not sure why. I must be feeling generous today. :-)

You had one thing absolutely right in your original post. Laughter is key. If you can make a person laugh it increases their perception of your physical attractiveness. Seriously.

The last guy who got an invite back to Casa de Velma was "cute" when I first saw him. By the end of the evening I thought he was a hottie - mostly because he had a fabulous sense of humor and made me laugh a lot.

Other than that you might wanta most of the rest of your "plan". In fact, it's just better not to have a plan. Let the universe take you where it will.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:52 PM
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45. How sad....your priority is to get laid.
Dude, just pay for it if that's all you want. You seem to have shockingly little respect for women.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:55 PM
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46. So....
the women who have seduced me didn`t respect men? Might they just not have been Randy?
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hussar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:07 PM
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48. Mighty fine point
women get horny the same as men and as far as I know go out do get a "bit" too, if they want it and you want it what the f..k is the problem?

Some women have a f..k buddy so they don't have to get emotionally involved
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:07 PM
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50. Not my point at all....
Most of Magic Rat's posts the last few days have centered solely around his desire to get laid, with no consideration given to the idea of relationships.

As for women who do the same to men--my comment applies to them, as well.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:22 PM
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51. Getting laid is a type of relationship.
Most of Magic Rat's posts the last few days have centered solely around his desire to get laid, with no consideration given to the idea of relationships.

Have you considered standing on some phonebooks when you're going to project like that?

Fucking doesn't necessarily have anything to do with establishing a relationship beyond the act itself.

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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:13 PM
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52. Not projecting...
Not sure why you think I am projecting. :shrug:

Nowhere did I say (or will I say) that fucking for the sake of fucking is a bad thing. I think most of us have had "fuck buddies" at one time or another, and they do have a certain usefulness.

However, I just think it's kinda sad that most of the motivation (hell, the only motivation) he's shown in his posts the last few days regarding going out with women is just to get them in the sack. If that's his only motivation for going out, I think he's missing a lot of fun above and beyond getting off with someone.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:58 PM
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47. Ha ha ha check out this study
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:10 PM
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49. rub her feet
rub her feet, do the dishes, run the sweeper, fix a nice dinner (before doing dishes), ask her how her day went, carry the clean laundry back upstairs..


(works for us married guys)


oh, then pop the porn tape in. :spank:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:17 PM
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53. You left out a few steps in between 1. and 2.
The hardest part, actually...
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:37 PM
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54. Ask her how much she charges for sex.
If she's insulted by the question, go find someone who isn't.
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