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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:15 PM
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26 years ago - the most unbeliavably kickass auto racing catfight EVAH
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:22 PM
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1. WOW!!!!
WOW! That was FUCKING INTENSE!

I have no idea what race it was or who's voice that is, but that was incredibly intense!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:26 PM
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2. The voice is probably of Ren Arnoux - bloke in the yellow Renault.
The Ferrari is driven by St. Gilles Villeneuve, God of the Holy Tetrarchy of Formula One (him, Clark, Fangio, and Senna).
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:27 PM
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3. Does every Brazilian go nuts for Formula One?
I work with a Brazilian guy who loves it.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 PM
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7. Many do, but many can't look at it since Senna died.
It hurts too much*. It hurts me too, but I'm a terminal fanatic and not going to quit watching, ever. The first race I saw was the first race broadcasted in Brazil - the 1972 Brazilian GP. I was 6, and wondered why the announcer kept saying "Emerson Fittipaldi" all the time. :silly: I was hooked forever. :freak:

* By "hurt too much", I mean Elvis level. MLK level. It was THAT much of a shock.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:43 PM
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9. Oh, by the way, the race is the 1979 French GP.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 09:45 PM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
And it wasn't even a fight for the win, it was for 2nd place. http://glibs.ssmmdd.co.uk/glibs/racerslt.php?lang=usa&i...

The winner, Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Arnoux's teammate at the time) was completely ignored. :evilgrin:

Edit: wrong link. Fixed. No, wait, NOW it's fixed.
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:27 PM
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4. Whoa! I'm not even a big race fan and that got me going!
Thanks for the link!
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:29 PM
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5. VERY cool video! There was a similar bout between Emerson
Fittipaldi and Nigel Mansel in the Cleveland Grand Prix at Burke Lakefront Airport in '93 (I think it was '93) I was there and it was very similar. Each passing the other into the various turns on that very wide, airport course.

Awesome racing!

Thanks for the link.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:36 PM
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8. Emerson's Indycar performances made my jaw drop.
In F1 he was always the analytical, planning, never balls-out guy. He went to the F-Indy and mutated into an unholy beast from the very pits of Hell. VERY few drivers have balls enough to take on Nigel Mansell. Even fewer have enough to do that and actually WIN. :wow:

Ask Al Unser Jr. if you don't believe me. :evilgrin:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:50 PM
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10. LOL! Mansell came over here and became a whining,
prestentious primadonna. Well, perhaps he was one in Europe before he came to Indy Cars, i dont know, but he was teamed with Mario and the stories through the paddock were that all he did was complain and bitch. The team grew to hate him and i think that is in part why he didnt stay in Indy car any longer than he did.

Emerson always struck me as the perfect gentleman. I met and conversed with him many times (I worked in the biz from '89 through '96 - held a hard-card annual credential) at races as well as test sessions. He was always cool but, i agree with you, analytical and precise. When he tagged wheels with Al Jr at Indy in '89 with only a couple laps to go, he almost lost it too. The car control at those speeds was phenominal.

Gilles Villenueve seems to have been the same type of driver.

And Senna. Well, what can you say? He is missed, no doubt.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:52 PM
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11. You made me LOL! My cousin worked for Emerson Fittipaldi's team
in CART (Fittipaldi-Dingman Racing) and he reads DU and he'll get a kick out of that.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 PM
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6. Bravo!!!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:58 PM
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12. FUCK YEAH! Current F1 doesn't hold a candle to that racing
:headbang:
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:04 PM
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13. Is it my imagination...
...or were F1 cars a lot cooler-looking back in the day?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:44 PM
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15. Psyche! See the post below. (nt)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:08 PM
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14. Take a look at the oddly-shaped backmarker cars.
They're Arrows A2 - probably the most gorgeous F1 car ever made. Unfortunately, they won john excrement.

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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:58 PM
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16. sweet
That was amazing.

:popcorn:

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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:36 PM
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17. Here's a QT clip with "Muddy Talker" on the commentary
http://www.globalserve.net/~trauttf/Gilles/Dijon79.mpeg

Many of the other driver went apeshit about the 'unsafe' driving of Arnoux and Villeneuve. Good Ol' Mario just said: " a couple young lions clawing each other."

One of the saddest days was when I came home one day from Saturday Baseball practice and my dad asked me if I knew of a driver named "Villeneuve."
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:55 AM
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19. Only the good die young, case #918,974,360,834,087,214
:(
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:41 PM
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18. I rarely ever watch racing
but that was wild! :wow:

I am amazed that neither got killed, the way they were hanging on each other
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