All you bitches put your hands in the air and wave them like you

[Merrick]

just don't care...

[VelmaD]

1. Any particular reason for this one?

Just curious whether to take you over my knee or not.

[MissB]

12. Pop culture thingy.... but can I ask you a question?

It's been bugging me for days. You've been posting a phrase that I've never heard before - something about butter. What is that phrase (since I can't seem to recall it right now :crazy: ) and where did it originate from? Is it a regional thing?

:hi:

[VelmaD]

15. I think you mean "good lord and butter"...

and I picked it up from Opus the penguin from an old Bloom County strip I saw years ago. I think Berk Breathed used it to sound like an old southern kind of saying. And since I'm all about being colorfully southern...I decided to use it. :)

[MissB]

16. Yes, that is it!

Thanks for the explanation. I loved Bloom County. :)

[Redstone]

2. Another pop-culture reference that's going right under

my radar, right?

Maybe I need to watch television once in a while.


Redstone

[CanuckAmok]

4. Hey, dreamstuff... have you heard the lowdown on Redstone?

(whispers) Redstone is really a square [] ...

[CanuckAmok]

3. All you maggots smoking fags on Santa Monica Blvd.

...

[JanMichael]

5. God, I hate popular culture

We are a completely tasteless society

[CanuckAmok]

6. Ah, but in this case...

...the writer is drawing attention to that tastelessness.

So it's PostModern.

So it's okay.

[VelmaD]

9. And you determined all that from the OP...

how exactly?

[CanuckAmok]

11. I guess because I knew the source of his reference.

Just as I knew he was going to get flamed.

[VelmaD]

13. Well, with 70,000 registered users...

you can generally bet that many of them won't get any pop culture reference you make. To people who haven't ever heard the song...the OP comes across as just one more egregious use of a gender slur that the admins have been pretty clear is no longer tolerated.

[Spider Jerusalem]

20. The only problem with that...

is that it's not a "gender slur" unless specifically used of a female or females in a derogatory manner; context is important. Can we say "thin-skinned"?

[VelmaD]

22. It is always a gender slur...

when directed at a man it's still an insult based on gender.

And try posting a thread that has nothing but the word bitch in it with no other context and see how long it takes before the mods delete it for being against the rules.

You know...the rules:
While specific words are not automatically forbidden, members should avoid using racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted terminology. This includes gender-specific terms such as "bitch," "cunt," "whore," "slut," or "pussy," and terms with homophobic derivation, such as "cocksucker," which are often inflammatory and inappropriate. One common exception is the use of the phrase "media whore," which is permitted.

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. That essentially ignores things like...

the long-accepted colloquial use as a synonym for "complain", "intractable problem" and so on...usages in which there's no specific insult. Like I said, context is important. Without context there is no meaning save that which the reader imposes.

[CanuckAmok]

27. that's a cunning observation, SJ.

n/t

[VelmaD]

7. Yup...and isn't it nice to see it invade here?

'Cause a liberal website is the best place I can think of to call for your bitches. :eyes:

[CanuckAmok]

10. System of a Down:

I'll wait here,
You're crazy,
Those viscious streets are filled with strays,
You should have never gone to Hollywood.

They find you,
Two time you,
Say your the best they've ever seen,
You should have never trusted Hollywood.

I wrote you,
And told you,
You were the biggest fish out here,
You should have never gone to Hollywood.

They take you,
And make you,
They look at you in disgusting ways,
You should never trusted Hollywood.

I was standing on the wall,
Feeling ten feet tall,
All you maggots smoking fags on Santa Monica Boulevard,
This is my front page,
This is my new age,
All you bitches put your hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care.

All you maggots smoking fags out there on Sunset Boulevard.

All you bitches put your hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care.

Phoney people come to play,
Look at all of them beg to stay,
Phoney people come to pray.

Phoney people come to pray.

All you maggots smoking fags on Santa Monica Boulevard,
All you maggots smoking fags out there on Sunset Boulevard.
All you maggots smoking fags out there on Hollywood Boulevard.

You should have never trusted Hollywood.
You should have never gone to Hollywood.

All you bitches put your hands in the air and wave them like you just don't care.

You should have never trusted Hollywood.

[Lars39]

8. I've alerted; don't give a damn if this is a song I'm supposed to know

or not. I'm tired of seeing this shit.

[Merrick]

14. Sorry - inside reference I guess. The song as well as my intention are

both totally ironic. didnt mean to offend.

[CanuckAmok]

17. Simpsons Slacker #1: "Hey, dude, are you being ironic?"

Simpsons Slacker #2: "I don't know anymore."

[VelmaD]

18. There's just a lot of DU history involved...

and too many flame wars over the word "bitch" and too many lounge posts afterward where people used the word from quotes or song lyrics as a way to try to skirt the rules and piss people off.

I'm not saying that's what you're trying to do. I'm taking your explanation at face value. Just letting you know where some of the inevitable reaction comes from.

[CanuckAmok]

25. yes, the lounge can sometimes be a reaction area.

or just plain reactionary.

[nini]

19. I'm sure you didn't mean to offend...

the 'B' word really annoys the hell out of some here.


Personally, I don't take too much offense but it just depends on how it's used.

Just some friendly advice so you know why the others may be a bit upset.

[Merrick]

21. So do you guys find it insulting when Chappelle and John Stewart

say that word all the time? Not trying to be contentious, just wondering because it seems that, barring being used in a context that directly addresses women, it seems to have evolved into a generic word people use for humorous effect for its particularly (subjective perhaps) funny timbre.

[VelmaD]

23. I don't find it funny at all...

I find it sad that these icons on the left feel it is perfectly fine to use a slur against women. It's not a generic word...unless of course you aren't in the group it's used against all the damn time. *sigh*

[CanuckAmok]

24. you're projecting your interpretation onto their use of it.

Which is your right, but maybe not entirely fair.

[VelmaD]

28. You know what...

I'm not sure it's worth discussing this any more. I don't think we're ever going to come to an agreement on it. And I don't think I'll ever understand a world-view that seems to think it's perfectly ok to continue to offend people after they've told you somethingis offensive.

This issue has been discussed to death and has essentially been decided by the admins. Maybe a repeat of the rules is in order:

While specific words are not automatically forbidden, members should avoid using racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted terminology. This includes gender-specific terms such as "bitch," "cunt," "whore," "slut," or "pussy," and terms with homophobic derivation, such as "cocksucker," which are often inflammatory and inappropriate. One common exception is the use of the phrase "media whore," which is permitted.

[brainshrub]

29. Locking.

Respect your mothers and sisters.