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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:41 AM
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A disturbing, powerful video.
I don't know how to post just the video link, but I promise you this is worth the trouble.

(1) Go to: http://www.aperfectcircle.com

(2) Click for Music on the (Aquarius?} sign directly below the large peace sign at the top.

(3) Select Watch from the tabs under Music.

(4) Watch Counting Bodies.

(5) Be stunned.

I hope this video gets nonstop coverage.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:02 AM
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1. Wow.
Edited on Sun May-29-05 02:08 AM by southlandshari
Just wow.

I think this may work as a direct link. And I highly recommend a look (just be prepared - it's strong stuff, animation or not).

http://boss.streamos.com/real/virg001/a_perfect_circle/video/counting_bodies/counting_bodies_hi.ram?siteid=preview
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:05 AM
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2. Thanks for the direct link!
Edited on Sun May-29-05 02:07 AM by silverweb
Where/how'd you get that?

Strongly recommend everyone watch it here and forward it widely -- because I don't think you're ever going to see it through the MSM.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:09 AM
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3. Right clicked on the file
and looked up clip source. I was using the high speed version, so it may not work for dial-up users, who should follow your directions (which were perfect) and select a lower speed connection to view.

Thanks for posting this!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:22 AM
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7. I tried that and it didn't work.
I've got cable modem, too. Hmmmm....

Anyway, thanks.

I'm very glad I posted it. One of my daughter's friends brought it to our attention and I alternated between rage, chills, and tears watching it. Spread it far and wide!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:18 AM
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4. It Says I Need More Components Real Player
how do i get more components?
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:20 AM
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6. Try this:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:18 AM
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5. Kicked and nominated. (nt)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:23 AM
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8. Thanks!
The more people see and share this, the better!

:hi:
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 02:24 AM
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9. I nominated it as well. n/t
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:57 AM
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10. Kick. This is an amazing video.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:47 AM
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11. It's too bad it's a RealPlayer file
Ain't no way I'm putting that spyware shit back on my machine.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 08:14 AM
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12. Download adaware
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 08:35 AM
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13. I watched it with RealPlayer. (nt)
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 09:14 AM
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14. ifilm has it in a windows format
Edited on Sun May-29-05 09:16 AM by Briarius
check it out here: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2664612

Excellent video!

on edit, check out the video for their cover of "Imagine": http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2664613 The whole album by Perfect Circle is great!
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 09:19 AM
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15. Thanks for that
I'm no fan of Microsoft, either, but I've never had a problem with the Windows Media Player.
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 09:26 AM
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16. Wow.
Edited on Sun May-29-05 09:26 AM by Gatchaman
I was never a big fan of TOOL/APC, but I have a great deal of respect for them, both for doing their own thing, and for their courage to make a stand like this.

Too bad MTV is only interested in blingbling rap and nihilistic noise metal...

And thanks for the iFilm link. I refuse to put that real player shit on my machines.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:48 PM
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24. Thanks for the WMP format, Briarius.
I prefer that when I can use it and I'm sure a lot of other people do, too.

I never cared for APC's version of "Imagine" and the video now confirms that. Lennon's song was always one of hope to me, but the APC version is dark, as though hope has died. It's powerful and makes its points well, of course, but I prefer to keep at least one favorite song of hope.
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:43 PM
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32. I can understand that
but I actually prefer the cynical APC version. I think it's more a reflection on when each version was recorded. APC's is more of a "imagine if our dumb asses could get our shit together"

No problem on the format, I like ifilm cause they stream videos that I can watch under linux :evilgrin:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:35 PM
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33. You must be a lot younger than me.
I grew up on the Beatles. You're absolutely right about the different versions reflecting their times. We still had hope in the old days, but I'm not sure we have much reason for hope now. I still need to fight to keep hope alive, though -- it's all we have left for our kids.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:15 AM
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17. Thanks silver.
I have to watch this later, grandson is here.

But here's a :kick:

This is even more reason to sign Conyer's letter.


http://www.johnconyers.com /

:hi:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:49 PM
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25. Thanks, vickiss.
Gotcha covered on the Conyer's letter. I signed it the other day. Have fun with the grandson!

:hi:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:34 PM
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31. Awesome video silver!
It is powerfully moving. My heart ached as I watched.Another reason that BFEE and co-horts need to go! Passing the link on.
:toast: :hi:

I decided to check out a couple of their other videos, wow! Their Imagine is excellent! My daughter justed turned me on to Otep, intense lyrics, but you need to really like thrash/metal for the music. My days in the pit ended early 90' (started in the 70's!). Her "Warhead" is pretty good! Sad.
:headbang:

Thanks on the Conyer letter! I've been trying to keep kicking all the threads for it at least 2 or 3 times a day, last couple. This is just soo important. I want * out and in prison for very long time!! I've never seen such horrendous bullshit from an administration, not even raygun can take this one, nor Nixon!

:kick: for Counting!
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:29 AM
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18. Here are they lyrics
Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums
------A Perfect Circle

don't fret precious im here,
step away from the window,
go back to sleep.

lay your head down,child.I won't let the boogeyman come...
counting bodies like sheep to the rythym of the war drum.
pay no mind to the rabble(pay no mind to the rabble)
head down go to sleep to the rythym of the war drums

pay no mind what other voices say, they dont care about you like I do.
safe from pain,and truth,and choice,and other poison devils,
see,they don't give a fuck about you like I do
just stay with me
safe and ignorant

go back to sleep,
go back to sleep.

lay your head down child I wont let the boogeyman come
counting bodys like sheep to the rythym of the war drum
pay no mind to the rabble(pay no mind to the rabble)
head down go to sleep to the rythym of the war drums

I'll be the one to protect you from your enemies and all your demons;
I'll be the one to protect you from a will to survive and the voice of reason,
I'll be the one to protect you from all your enemies and your choices son,
One and the same I will isolate you,Isolate and save you from yourself

swayin' to the rythym of the new world orderin

countin bodies like sheep to the rythym of the war drum

the boogeymen are comin'
the boogeyman are comin'


go back to sleep....






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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 12:58 PM
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26. Thanks, Deb!
The lyrics fit the video perfectly. Such sad, scary stuff.... even more because the whole scenario is so true.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:39 AM
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19. can I buy this DVD at a store?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:43 AM
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20. I just called Borders and they said it is not listed as on DVD
I want this DVD NOW!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:04 PM
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27. I don't know about stores....
Edited on Sun May-29-05 01:22 PM by silverweb
On edit: It's not listed as a DVD because it's a music CD. I think music CDs have features making them capable of showing video with the songs, but they're still not considered DVDs. Then again, I'm no technowizard so I could be wrong.

Anyway, the CD is available at the APC website store:
http://secure.feamerch.com/product_info.php?cPath=53_210&products_id=686

Also available at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000641ZIQ/qid=1117389611/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-7450313-5518414

And the Sam Goody site lists it, so I would think it would be available in their stores:
http://www.samgoody.com/Music/Artist.aspx?p_id=P+++430677
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 11:01 AM
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21. what is on it?
I am not good with the horrors of war... i don't want to see if people are in pieces and piled on one another.

Can you say what is on it?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 11:16 AM
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22. it is animation and I didn't find anything 'upsetting' on it....
chilling because it is truthful, but no bloody stuff.

You have to see this.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 11:16 AM
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23. Just noticed the bloody red sea with garbage floating in it as
Admiral Bush sails on
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:27 PM
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28. I think those are sheep body parts...
And B* sails on.

Did you also catch at the very beginning how the oil rig is splashing blood rather than oil?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:41 PM
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29. thanks Silverweb, and thanks and kick
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 01:42 PM
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30. I lIke The Horse Squeezing Out A TV
for the sheep to watch...powerful video, thanks for posting
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