So what's the deal here, folks?

[eauclaireliberal]

Hmm. Since I’ve come back to this board, several of you have been trying to give me the redass.

One was an individual who make the statement indicating that I must be a “…freeper in disguise.” Another questions my “thought processes” when it was PERSONAL OPINION about a “Sucks and Rocks” list of movie actors for Chrissakes. I posted some articles on the absurdity of giving what money we DO have left to a federal government that wants to piss it away, while taking away civil liberties, Constitutional rights, property rights and state’s rights. What do I get? More crap. All because I don’t walk the Left-line 100%. Ill let you in on a little secret: This borders on dangerous group-think…almost like freerepublic.com.

I’ll let you in on another secret: I was barred from BartCop for pretty much the same reason. They didn’t like some of the stuff I posted, and I was given the boot…which is something the moderators from freerepublic did. I seem to be a no-good liberal to the freetards, and some kind of conservative creep to other liberals. I came here because it seemed, at the time, the last place to come and have intelligent and rational discussion/debate. Bartcop mods, if I’m not mistaken, pulled this same crap with Bev Harris.

It’s obvious that some folks here haven’t looked in my profile where I state “Liberal-Libertarian.” What that means is that our tax dollars, IMHO, are better off spent on equalizing economic strength for ALL AMERICANS instead of continuing the welfare state-another federal scheme without an “exit-strategy.” You have to spend a good deal of time working in the blue-collar sector to understand why it is important that we have less tax laws.

What it means is that I have more of an interest of taking care of ourselves-cleaning out our own closet- before we go running around the world acting like global cops, every time the UN thinks that something is wrong.

BTW-When it comes to black folks in our nation: They are sick and tired of white Liberal promises never kept. The only difference here is that the conservatives never promised them anything to begin with, which makes them look more honest than us…regardless of what repubs may actually think of blacks. As far as the black community is concerned, they aren’t being lied to and treated as stupid-because Libs traditionally say shit that we think they want to hear, near every election. Then they are forgotten once we get our men and women in office.

Basically, I prefer to put Constitutional principles before our political agendas. I suggest that some of you learn really f*cking quick about some of these principles, before your front door gets kicked open.

Instead of busting my balls because I may say something that you disagree with, maybe you should think about that “Liberal open-mindedness” that the conservatives supposedly hate us for…and what is happening to it.

[proud patriot]

1. Please hit alert on posts that make Accusations

and assumptions about you .

Those posts are in Violation of DU rules .

proud patriot
DU Moderator

[eauclaireliberal]

2. There lies the problem, though:

proud patriot:

My problem with that option is that I shouldn't have to do that: I mean, were adults, right?

Appreciate the reply, BTW.

[WillParkinson]

5. We are adults...

But some of us also have tunnel vision. We see what's wrong with the world in our own view and anyone who doesn't agree with that view is wrong or a freeper or whatever.

I've had great discussions here with people who then got on me about something I said they disagreed with. And then the next day we had good conversations again.

Try to let it slide unless it continues from the same person. Then you should hit alert.

[Droopy]

3. Big difference between Libertarian and Democrat

Maybe that's why you are catching so much heat.

Why do you have to spend time in the blue collar sector to understand why we need tax reform? I've been a blue collar guy all my working life and the only tax reform I see that we need is to repeal Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

[eauclaireliberal]

6. RE: Big difference between Libertarian and Democrat

Why do you have to spend time in the blue collar sector to understand why we need tax reform?

Because feeding your family when your'e not some CEO is really hard when you are basically giving it away to the federal government...who sees you as nothing more than a sack of cash that they don't have to work for-but you do.

I've been a blue collar guy all my working life and the only tax reform I see that we need is to repeal Bush's tax cuts for the rich.

I wholeheartedly agree. That's my point. If I'm going to be taxed, I would rather it be just to the state of Wisconsin (where it will actually do some good...with Jim Doyle instead of Bush/Cheney)than getting taxed without representation.

[GOPFighter]

9. Here comes the heat!

I'm a federal employee who works his f**kin' ass off for you and the American people. 10 hour days and all. You obviously haven't got a clue about where your federal tax dollars go. Where did you EVER get the idea that the federal government does nothing for you and your tax dollars? Yeah, keep your damn dollars in Wisconsin. Did it ever occur to you that this a nation of 50 states? If every state had to set up agencies to inspect the meat and other foods consumed in their state, test the prescription drugs consumed in their state, etc., etc., etc., everyone would be paying a lot more in state taxes than you currently pay in federal and state taxes combined?


I used to work in a factory, I was also an enlisted man in the military, I know know what it's like to work for low wages. Geeesh! I can see why you get flamed here!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. EXACTLY..people either want services and DOn'T want to pay

for them or are COMPLETELY oblivious of the actual services government performs. Yes there is waste but in the service sector of government some of the waste is due to underfunding VALUABLE agencies, there by rendering them useless to perform the job they are supposed to do.

I get really nauseous reading people's philopsophical rants on this subject when they don't specifically point out the program they feel is wasteful and insult public servants in the process.

Thanks for all your hard work GOPF, and thanks for the post.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. I think it's a message board and you should expect to be challenged

on what you post.

YOu basically accuse people of GROUP THINK which is the same as accusing someone of being a freeper. Why not just take your challenge to the person or people challenging you than to post a "sympathy post" in the lounge because people disagree with you?

While there are MANY aspects of our tax laws that leave much to be desired, I am MUCH more concerned about the WEALTHFARE state right now than the WELFARE state.

If you are getting banned right and left from liberal forums even though you claim to be one, maybe you should investigate your own ideas.

[GOPFighter]

7. So much to say, so little time...

...<grin>. You are certainly welcome to your opinion, and we should all at least listen to your reasoning. But be aware that DU is not just a place where ideas are debated, it's a safe place where beleagured liberals can go to vent. Many of us, especially those in the red states, hear so much demonizing of liberals that we need a place like this where we can go to decompress. So if you have views that aren't 95% in line with the rest of us, expect to get burned sometimes.

[patdem]

8. How do you come to speak for the black folks in our nation????

BTW-When it comes to black folks in our nation: They are sick and tired of white Liberal promises never kept. The only difference here is that the conservatives never promised them anything to begin with, which makes them look more honest than us…regardless of what repubs may actually think of blacks. As far as the black community is concerned, they aren’t being lied to and treated as stupid-because Libs traditionally say shit that we think they want to hear, near every election. Then they are forgotten once we get our men and women in office.