In the remote possibility of a draft, I will serve

[Loonman]

I have not reached the cut-off date, yet, and in the event of a draft, having thought long and hard, I would serve.


Even for a phony war, for a cause I don't believe in, for leaders I do not trust, I would serve.

I would not shirk, that would only make someone go in my place.

I will not leave the country, for my country provides me various freedoms, and affords luxuries unavailable elsewhere.



If I dodged the draft, I would be as bad as Rush, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld is.

I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees.

[La_Serpiente]

1. What if you're gay

do you still have to enter the draft? It just seems that the military likes to discriminate against homosexuals nowadays.

[Loonman]

2. Dumb and irrelevent question

n/t

[Midwest_Doc]

3. Each must follow HIS own conscience

I assume that women would not be included in this "remotely possible" draft.

[Kamika]

5. im sure if all men died

they would get us.


Btw serving in the iraq war is probably the most idiotic thing to do volunterily.

Those guys in jackass have more brains then anyone that willingly would do that.

[Paschall]

4. The question is: Serve WHAT?

A lie? A corporate cabal?

Surely you don't mean serve the country, because the country is most assuredly not served by this illegal war or the cabal that has wreaked it on the world.

[Scott Lee]

6. And die, you will

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz will see to that.

Here's an alternate idea you might want to entertain. REAL patriots resist the illegal and immoral acts of their government. That includes illegal and immoral wars; especially like this one, that has no serious basis as a threat to our national security.

I suggest that you not die for the prestige of these cynical men, but that you live to help throw them out of power.

[La_Serpiente]

7. If there is a war

I am going to Brazil unless I truly feel that it is a just war. If it to change the entire Middle East and Northern Africa and engage in imperialism, screw that. I don't want to be a part of dehumanizing another culture and people.

[Andy_Stephenson]

8. I agree

don't die for a lie!

[VermontDem2004]

9. There are other countries with various freedoms

I don't think dodging a draft is bad thing, you can call me as bad as Rush all you want, if the draft comes, here comes Holland!

[underpants]

10. Good you should

I'm 36 so I am out.

[La_Serpiente]

11. I just turned 19

I have a whole lotta years to go.

[atreides1]

12. In My Opinion

There were three groups of men during the Vietnam War

Group 1. Those who went when they were called for duty, because they
believed that they were doing the right thing.

Group 2. Those who left the country to avoid serving, because to them
the war was wrong, and was not the right thing to do.

Group 3. Made up of the the men you mention. These were the ones that
got deferments, exemptions, or appointments to the NG.

Groups 1 & 2 Showed courage, because they went with their beliefs.

The men who answered the call knew that they might die, but that did not stop them, this was courage.

The men who refused to serve, because they did not believe in the war
knew that they would be jailed, harrassed, and called un-American and
un-Patriotic. This also was a sign of courage.

Group 3 consisted of cowards who used their connections to avoid serving, or got placed in NG units ahead of others who had been
waiting. They got deferments for college, or being fathers.

Dick Cheney: 4 student deferments. 2 drunk driving convictions cancelled those deferments. He then got a paternity deferment.

Gary Bauer: Questionable medical deferment.

Ken Starr: Psoriasis

Rush Limbaugh: Pilondial cyst(aka ingrown hair follicle)on his ass
Note: 80,000 US military personnel suffered from this
affliction during WWII.

Jerry Falwell: Ministerial deferment

Michael(Savage)Weiner: Avoided draft while chasing botany degree in
Fiji and Hawaii.

Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House: Sat out Vietnam on a "bad knee" deferment that apparently didn't prevent him from coaching wrestling.

Saxby Chambliss: Bad knee. And this piece of shit had the nerve to say that Max Cleland was un-patriotic.

Ted Nugent: Insanity. It seems that days before repoting to the induction center Ted urinated and deficated on himself.

As for Rummy he did serve as a Naval pilot between the Korean Conflict and Vietnam. He was an instructor pilot and a boxer.

So you see if you decide to answer the call and serve, or if you decide that the war is wrong and leave all that you love and care for behind, you will still shown more courage then those pices of human offal that I have named above.

[VermontDem2004]

13. Best post on this thread

[goobergunch]

18. I concur. (n/t)

[Zuni]

17. right on

either serve or stand on your principles like Muhammad Ali--Cheney, Bush and those other cowards aren't worth spitting on.

[proud patriot]

14. I admire your choice

Your conviction and your courage .

I hope it doesn't come to a draft
and will continue to do all I can
to stop this perpetual warfare our
society is being burdoned with.

My son is 7 and 1/2, I believe he
would make the same choice you have .

[Uzybone]

15. For the Iraq war

anyone who believes its an illegal war and still decides to serve to murder innocents is a fool and a criminal. If there is a draft Ill go to prison, fuck serving in a war I believe is a crime. Im not going to be lumped up in the same category as Nazis who said "we were just following orders".

[Loonman]

16. Well, I really don't have much of anything to leave behind

The only thing that really holds me back is possesssions.


Possessions have away of owning you after a while.