How come freeps/assholes can't understand communism is an ECONOMIC system

[Rabrrrrrr]

And not a political system?

Why can't they come to realize how fucking stupid they are by constantly comparing communism and democracy?

I can only assume it's because they're fucking stupid, and since the only regimes that have been close to communist have also been dictatorships or other forms of tyrrany, that the freeps just assume that what Karl Marx was talking about was a system of government in which no one owned anything, and the rulers were vicious, selfish, tyrranical fuckwipes.

I don't think that's what Marx was talking about at all.

And freeps are too ignorant to look at the truth and say, "Oh, I see - those are all communist ECONOMIC systems that happen to have a criminal dictatorship form of government".

But, even knowing that they're too fucking dumb to understand something as simple as "communism should be compared to capitalism, not democracy", they still piss me off.

Fuckwads.

[chicagojoe]

1. You are absolutely correct.

However, in a nation as large as the US, communism will NEVER work.
Human nature won't allow it to work. The lazy will see it as a free ride, and the harder working people will resent the lazy people, and you can imagine what will happen then.

[Rabrrrrrr]

3. Oh, I agree totally

I'm not saying we should give communism a go - I think it's insane.

I'm just railing against the morans who think it's a political system.

And I failed to add, but I bet the majority of these idiots also believe that capitalism and democracy are the same thing.

[leftofthedial]

2. fucking stupid

and aggressively ignorant

and deluded

[Midnight Rambler]

4. Don't think that makes a difference

No matter how you look at it, they'd still hate everything about it. Thanks to the Cold War, capitalism = mom, apple pie, American values, communism = anit-American godless atheism. Doesn't matter how much education you could give them, commies are bad cause they don't represent the red white and blue. It's completely irrational, but it's the sad truth.

[liberalhistorian]

5. The problem is that communism

will always lend itself to brutal dictatorships by its very nature. That is why there hasn't been one successful communist system and why there never will be, the five or six revolutionary communists in this country notwithstanding. Even the remaining communist countries, like China, are moving toward a form of capitalist economics. Communism is either dead or dying, as it very well should be.

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Agreed all the way around

it is totally unworkable, and leaves itself open - if not demands - the leaders to abuse the system.

[tammywammy]

10. exactly

Communism is great in theory. Everyone makes the same, has the same. Great.
But once actual people are involved it lends itself to corruption, and is corrupt.

[Radical Activist]

7. It isn't just an economic system.

Socialism is just an economic system. Communism has a socialist economic system but it is a political system as well. The chief problem with it being the stage where it is a "dictatorship of the proletariat" on its way to having almost no government at all. When you allow anyone to run a dictatorship they rarely give up that power away freely.

[ghostsofgiants]

15. Bingo.

That is the main reason I think it would never work.

[BikeWriter]

8. Uh, because they're poo poo heads?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

9. Freepers flunked political science classes

and regular science too. They also believe the Earth was created 6,000 years ago and that fossils were put in the ground to confuse the non-believers.

[khashka]

11. Because they are idiots

But you can never ever explain the difference to them. They just don't get it. Of course few of them have read Marx (cuz Marx is evil, evil I tell you!) so they have no clue about communism. Of course they have no clue about capitilism either - they are sure it's good but couldn't find The Wealth Of Nations in a library if their life depended on it.

And they're incapable of of distinguishing the difference between an economic system and a political system. I'd suggest reading a few anarchist authors (we know the difference and it's about 90% of what we argue about).

They remind me of Christians who've never actually read the Bible.

Khash.

[ahem]

12. It means two different things (There's communism & there's Communism)

When there's a lower case "c" it refers to an economic system of common ownership by all.

When there's a capital "C", it refers to a totalitarian system of government where the state party controls the economy, production and distribution of goods.

[xmas74]

13. I have had that argument on a few occasions.

I had one asshole tell me to shut up since he had a degree in Econ and that I had no clue wtf I was talking about. It didn't help his case when I explained that I studied Econ in college too and I still cannot remember being taught about democracy as a form of economics (especially when I started throwing links at him to study up on-the big one was I asked him to discuss what was the Austrian form of economics). He became upset(it was obvious from his posts) that he was caught in his own lies and told me to f*ck off.

[ghostsofgiants]

14. The thing is that it doesn't matter to them

It's a good broad generalization to try and villify the left with.

And of course it's probably safe to assume they've never read any Marx (or Smith or any other author on political economy) in their lives anyway.

Their line of thiking is "left wing-->communism-->Josef Stalin--->evil". Of course they like to simplify it to the point where it ignores a shitload of other facts because as I said, it makes for a "good" broad stroke villification.

[Swamp Rat]

16. You are expecting too much from lizard drones