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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:45 PM
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were you ever punished/ given this punishment as/to a child?
please answer truthfully, were you ever punished for not cleaning your plate or for not eating something you diddent like? really doesent that kind of punishment only serve to teach the child that dissent is not an option, and he should conform and eat the same crap as everyone else? thust thought i'd share that little thought
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:47 PM
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1. Wait. Aren't you the guy who said that kids need to have pain?
That they should experience pain as children (actually, you argued pro-spanking) so that they can be normal as adults.

:shrug:
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:57 PM
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9. there is a difference
between punching a kid on a playground and getting spanked for it, and refuseing to eat something that you dont like when you have no say in what you eat
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:33 PM
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23. for both examples
a child shouldn't receive a spanking
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:34 PM
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24. he should be sent to his room to play with his gameboy or PSP?
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:37 PM
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26. no
i truly don't believe in that either
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:38 PM
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27. you tell him he was wrong
meaning the only concenquence of his actions being mere words?
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:41 PM
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28. i believe
in teaching that doesn't create fear in someone.
ie. spanking- i wont hit the kid anymore daddy because i know you'll physically punish me if i do (that's a great lesson)
and i take offense at saying 'mere words'
words are pretty powerful, if you hadn't yet realized
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:44 PM
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29. as a child, i tuned out my parents
every day i climbed "the hill" a mound of dirt 30 feet high, and every day my mom would bitch me out, i never listened
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:45 PM
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30. bitched you out
did she try talking to you?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:45 PM
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31. yeah
the first few times, i looked and acted atentive, but i climbed the hill the next damn day
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chickenscratching Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:48 PM
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32. did you/do you
believe that your mothers bitching/talking was necessary?
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:33 PM
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36. nope
never fell, never hurt myself
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:48 PM
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2. I hate lentil soup and lima beans
and my mother made a point of making each one at LEAST once a week. Needless to say I went to bed without dinner at least TWICE A WEEK.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:48 PM
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3. No, I Never Was
Maybe as a result, I like a wide variety of foods today.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:49 PM
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4. yes!
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 02:08 PM by auntAgonist
and it ( i feel ) contributed to issues i have around food.

(deleted stuff)

I never did go hungry though, and for that I'm eternally grateful.
I don't know hunger.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:49 PM
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5. No -
because my parents were - especially my mom. She had to sit at the table for hours until she finished. She snuck away and hid the food in the trash.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:50 PM
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6. Yes...
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 01:51 PM by Zing Zing Zingbah
but when you're a kid you need to eat the food your parents buy for you since you can't work to provide for yourself. You kind of have to "conform" to survive.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:56 PM
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8. but most of the time you had a good meal
but diddent eat one thing like the asparagus and got punished for it, and when i was a child and we went out to eat (i got punished major for it alot) i had no choice in what food was put on my plate, the adults all had burgers and fries or steak and a potato, and i was given most of the time the same off the kids menu, but sometimes they'd order me shrimp or something (i hate seafood) over my objections, i'd take one bite, spit it out, and loose my gameboy and nintendo for a month, along with every promise ever given to me for that month ahead disrespected
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:56 PM
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7. Once.
I made my mother thaw out a LOT of homemade applesause for dinner. She told me that if she did, I was going to have to eat it all.

She made me eat it all.

It was a LOT of applesauce...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:01 PM
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10. yes i was, i hate baked beans and living in massachusetts
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 02:16 PM by chimpsrsmarter
we had a lot of Boston baked beans, every saturday night was beans and hot dog cassarole----blech. They knew i hated them and how they would end up in my napkin or fed to the dog under the table. I spent about every saturday night in my room sans a television, that was the punishment.
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:14 PM
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11. We had to
try ONE bite of everything on our plate. Just one. If we hated it still, we did not have to eat it. But she (Mom) would not make anything else, as she said she was not a short order cook!

To this day I'll try a bite of ALMOST any thing once.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:18 PM
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12. welcome to fear factor
maggots, nightcrawlers and raw dead bird, and thats ALL before the first commercial break
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:18 PM
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13. welcome to fear factor
maggots, nightcrawlers and raw dead bird, and thats ALL before the first commercial break
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:22 PM
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14. I said ALMOST
My mom's half Hispanic and we make menudo, I love it (If done right).
My Dad is a Scot, ever hear of Haggis? I HATE The Haggis, one bit in life was enough for me but my brother loves it.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:28 PM
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19. ah yes the heart & lungs of a sheep
boild in its own stomach, everything is scottish tradition is based on a dare "i dare you to throw this telephone pole, i dare you to glide this giant stone into a circle, i dare you to eat this HAGGIS"
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:30 PM
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20. omg
:puke:
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:31 PM
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21. The real
dare was who would cook it. That stuff STINKS big.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:33 PM
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22. oh yeah
had scottish neighbors once, every wednesday night was haggis night, outdoor haggis night
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:36 PM
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25. Oh, Bless you
I only had to smell it about once a year. OK you win.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:25 PM
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15. YES
I wasn't allowed to leave the table until everything on my plate was gone. I was not allowed to eat whatever bread we were having until the veggies were all eaten, because they just knew I'll fill up on a dinner roll. By the way, I HATE veggies now, and don't eat most of them.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:25 PM
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16. yes; I hated vegetables as a kid and my dad would just have me
sit there till I finished them. He wanted me to eat balanced and healthy but I hated cooked carrots and veggies. I don't agree with your conclusion about dissent etc. An extreme example is I know a woman who let her kids eat whatever they wanted and they chose to eat soup and jello. Their teeth and bones were in sorry shape and the MD just about screamed at the mom.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:25 PM
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17. dupe
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 02:26 PM by barb162
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:27 PM
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18. nope, but that's what was for dinner
if you're hungry later there'll be leftovers in the fridge.
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RaleighNCDem Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:58 PM
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33. My mom did that once.
She made me eat string beans, and I threw them up on her shoes. That was the last time she made me eat something that I didn't like. I am not a picky eater, but I still hate string beans.

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 03:13 PM
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34. Well...
I'd get nagged until I ate all my peas. (I hated peas!) But, never punished for not eating them. There'd just be a lot of yelling until I ate them.

Funny thing... I kind of like peas now! (Though I absolutely loathe Lima Beans!)
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 03:48 PM
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35. You should never use food as punishment
There can be life-long consequences to your actions. Eating disorders are about control, after all. Even children know that.

The quest for a thin body isn't the only reason people refuse to eat or vomit their food. Using food as way to exert your discipline over your child could have a very unintended effect.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:47 PM
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37. We always had to eat what was made,
and clean our plates. We didn't have a lot of money and we had a large family (8 kids) so liver made a frequent appearance :puke: . I remember my mom actually holding me with one hand and forcing forkfuls of liver into my mouth. :scared:
I also remembermom or dad would put huge globs of whatever mess we were having on our plate and we had to eat every last bit.We let our kids dish themselves up. We only have three rules about mealtimes:
1. Use your manners
2. Eat until you're not hungry anymore
3. Try everything you don't have to eat it if you don't like it, but at least try it.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:36 PM
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38. I think that I ate most things
Like some other families, my mother did not make other food if we would not eat it. For whatever reason, I was very hungry as a child. My sister on the otherhand was a picky eater who didn't really care about eating. My mother started accomodating her somewhat because she was scared about how underweight my sister was getting.
I have known children who began accomodating their children right away. Some of these children are malnourished because they will not eat foods which provide vital nutrients. Some also grow up to be very picky adults food wise, which can be a bad thing in socail situations.
I don't know why you parents would order you food at restaurants which you didn't like. For example, my parents learned that I didn't like cheese on hamburgers, while my sister's favorite food was cheese. As a result, they ordered me a hamburger and my sister a cheese burger instead of ordering two cheeseburgers or two hamburgers when they picked up fast food. It sounds like they were purposly being mean to you in that case.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:39 PM
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39. You mean physically punished, right?
Yes, I was. I was swatted at times. On the hands and rear, and it was never ritualised or anything. It was rare, and it worked.

I don't support physical punishment of children.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:51 PM
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40. No - forcing a child to eat
when he or she is no longer hungry, or cannot stomach the food is not only totally abusive, it causes eating disorders, obesity, and strange associations with food as being a punishment/reward. I have witnessed this firsthand with many people I know who were raised this way - and even as adults they continue to eat what is on their plate even if they are uncomfortably full - and many are overweight and have weight related health problems now.

Trust me, as a health care worker I can honestly testify, from experience, that making an issue out of it when a kid doesn't want to eat something is HORRIBLY damaging - maybe not invariably in every case, but in all the overweight adults I know who eat too much in one sitting - they were urged to eat things they did not want as a child and made to clean their plates.

I am not saying that encouraging a child to try new foods one time or asking them to "try to eat a couple more bites" is going to kill them - but saying "you sit there and eat every bite on that plate or else" is one of the sickest, most warping things you can do to a kid - and they will always have food issues thereafter.
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