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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:40 AM
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More Trouble In Florida
Fla. Agency Gets Teen's Abortion Blocked

By JILL BARTON, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 27,10:04 PM ET

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - The state's social services agency was granted a court order to block an abortion for a pregnant 13-year-old girl living in a state shelter, prompting an emergency appeal Wednesday by the
American Civil Liberties Union.
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The ACLU in its appeal on the girl's behalf cited Florida statutes that protect a minor's decision to decide on an abortion.

"No (Department of Children & Families) regulation or state law can override a constitutional right as recognized by the
U.S. Supreme Court," said Howard Simon, the organization's executive director for Florida.

"But putting aside the legalisms, forcing a 13-year-old to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term against her wishes not only is illegal and unconstitutional, it's cruel."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=28&u=/ap/20050428/ap_on_re_us/abortion_dispute
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:44 AM
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1. Trouble=Florida, as in any State run by the GOP.
Being from Missouri I know.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:45 AM
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2. Yeah but
why is it we're hearing so much about Florida lately?
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:07 PM
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11. Florida is where those from Blue States go to vacation.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 12:10 PM by gordianot
This one is horrible. Florida seems to work on a personal level for life and death issues.

Missouri has or is trying to:
gut revenue department (just try to get a car title) misjudge revenues
try to establish creationism as a curriculum
eliminated funding for young disabled children
eliminated thousands from Medicaid
cut GED classes and treatment in prisons
eliminate abortion rights
cut drastically Higher Education
consider cutting elementary and secondary education
destroy what social services are available
up to 1000 State Jobs and counting have been eliminated

But they did come up with $100,000 to renovate the Governors mansion, even though they cannot account for the expenses.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:24 PM
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13. how can they cut elementary and secondary education??
Is that not a CONTISTUTIONAL RIGHT???
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:09 PM
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15. Not eliminate, cut funding. Poor choice of my wording.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 01:16 PM by gordianot
Education is not a Constitutional right on the Federal level. It is reserved (by omission from Federal Law) to the States. In Missouri you are supposed to fund education first grades K-12, but the State legislature can cut funding in the foundation formula to schools.

Federal entitlements for education do not guarantee a right to an education, they supplement education programs in the States.

What you end up with in GOP controlled States are legislatures and Governors who parrot the GOP line on cutting taxes revenues. The good side of this they are beginning to anger potential voters as Federal money dries up and the burden shifts to States. All is not well in the red States.

Add to this Florida that just seems to beg for personal drama as a result of the same nearsighted GOP agenda that is plaguing the entire country.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:12 PM
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12. I think it started when I moved here.
It's not my fault. Really.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:24 PM
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14. It is your fault.
Admit it!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:50 AM
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3. Good god.
What sort of sick people force a 13 year old to go through an unwanted pregnancy?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:52 AM
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5. This is the best line in the entire article
"The state agency argued the 13 1/2-week pregnant girl — described as L.G. in court documents — is too young and immature to make an informed medical decision, according to the ACLU appeal."

So... she is too young and immature to make her own decision on whether or not to get an abortion but she is NOT too young and immature to birth and raise a child???????????????
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 12:04 PM
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10. Agreed, an awful situation but
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 12:06 PM by liberalnurse
I also think, who impregnated a 13 year old????? Sicko as well.....Two wrongs don't make it right.

I know, who ever impregnates a minor female must be sterilized. That should be included in the law.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:51 AM
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4. Big discussion of it here.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:54 AM
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6. Yeah, but that is GD.
I feel safer in the Lounge.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:55 AM
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8. They won't bite if you just lurk.
;)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:54 AM
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7. thanks
I meant to post that and forgot.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:56 AM
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9. this part here
The state agency argued the 13 1/2-week pregnant girl — described as L.G. in court documents — is too young and immature to make an informed medical decision, according to the ACLU appeal.

But she's mature enough to give birth and be a mother?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 01:20 PM
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16. I noticed that too.
Are they going to take her baby away too? Is she nothing more than an incubator to them?

And if a decision isn't made soon, it will be too late.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:42 PM
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17. Locking
This thread is in GD, and the discussion will continue over there.

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