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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:22 PM
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My dad hopes my brother's girlfriend dies in childbirth! WTF???
The fucker has crossed the line. My little brother (21) got his girlfriend pregnant 7 months ago. To my brother's credit, he's stuck around, been working and saving money to help her out, and wants to stay with her and help raise their daughter when she's born. My mom, my sister and I have all been supportive of them, as has his girlfriend's side of the family.

I was just talking to him yesteday and he told me how my dad compared his girlfriend to cows on our farm the last time he was out there. "Sometimes the calf dies at birth, and the cow dies too." The fucker also told my brother to pay for the delivery and have nothing else to do with her. He's telling my brother to be a dead-beat dad!!!! I don't know how my brother walked away from there; I would have grabbed the nearest tool or 2x4 and beat that fucker down.

My dad is also a member of The Knights of Columbus, a rabidly pro-life group, pro-Bush group that is organized through the Catholic Church here. The hypocrisy is making me sick: protest abortion but hope the pregnant mother and her child die at birth.

I'm gonna be going out to the farm next week. My brother and sister will be there too. I was going to do some target practice and gardening, but I don't think it's a good idea to handle guns or metal tools around him. Yes, I am that fucking angry!

I'm very, very tempted to tell a couple of my cousins on my dad's side what he said, because I know they will spread the info throughout the family. I would love to see how they react to find out one of their own is such a cold bastard. I know it would be the end of my relationship with my dad, but at this point I don't care anymore.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:24 PM
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1. That's just sick.
I am really sorry you're having to deal with that within your family. I can't imagine how tough that must be.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:26 PM
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2. How awful!
I actually got teary-eyed reading this. I'm sorry your brother had to hear those words from his own father.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:31 PM
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5. Me too
The pain and depression in my brother's face, and the torture that man has put him through for so many years, breaks my heart. I was there to protect him until I had to move to go to college; then my dad had free reign for a couple of years to fuck with his head. My mom divorced him and took my brother and sister. Unfortunately, my brother's greatest passion in life is working on cars and trucks, restoring them. He's been working for an autobody shop, but has a bunch of old cars and trucks he's trying to restore on his own. The only place to do the work for free: my dad's farm. In order to follow his love of auto repair and customization, he has to endure my dad's insanity.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:28 PM
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3. What is behind your father's hate?
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 04:29 PM by Bunny
Does he dislike this particular girlfriend? Does he think your brother is getting unfairly trapped or something? Does he feel that he was trapped into marriage and fatherhood? Has he always been this hateful?

It shocks the senses, it's so bizarre.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:36 PM
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6. He's always been hateful
He beat my mom until she divorced him.

He threatened to kill me with a pitchfork in the barn on numerous occassions when we argued. Keep in mind I was a teenager at the time.

He would drag my brother naked through the snow and below-zero weather as a child as punishment a few times.

He is a hateful, disgusting creature that I have given far too much leniency to. I had hoped that, after my mom had divorced him, he would appreciate us more since he works by himself on the farm much of the time, all alone. Apparently he hasn't changed, and I now doubt he ever will.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:37 PM
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7. Well, I am truly sorry.
I hope your brother can protect his new child from your father's hatred.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:08 PM
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19. It sounds like he's a very toxic person in your life
have you ever considered not having further contact with him? I have someone like that in my family who I cut out completely, and I've never regretted it.

I'm very worried for the baby and it's mother if he should ever come in contact with them. :-(
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:31 PM
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4. My condolences
That is a display of the type of anger the freeps accuse the left of having. Projectors.

I would let others in the family know-that's what families do-share info.

At least you and your brother are turning out well. I am glad you and the rest of the family can be there for support. He and his GF will need it.

My dad was a total asshole about my bro and SIL having kids. At #4 (the last one) I finally told my dad to STFU, because he was going to love #4 as madly and wildly as he did #s 1-3. Which he did. Dumbfuck.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:39 PM
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8. Sounds like you are the adult male to your brother
You need to support his maturity and honor your bro. He's being a man. Forget your father and his craziness. He's not your brother's roll model. It's your chance, probably once again, to teach how to stand by your family and that means taking care of them. My advice is just to ignore your Dad and focus on the new baby.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:39 PM
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9. I am very sorry for all of you
This is such a sad story. :(
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:39 PM
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10. You're kidding right? Please, tell me your kidding...I'm so sorry.
I only hope you can get out of going to the farm. I don't know what I would do.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:40 PM
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11. I would not only tell your family
but I would be tempted to let it "slip" to the Knights of Columbus members(btw-not all of them are rabidly proBush, just depends on the region you live in). Better yet, let it slip to the biggest gossip in the Daughters of Isabella. Then the whole town will know, in the course of a day, what a true prick he is.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:56 PM
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15. Or mention it to his parish priest...
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 04:56 PM by regnaD kciN
I mean, hoping for the death of both the mother and child doesn't strike me as particularly "pro-life."

:evilgrin:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:58 PM
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16. Parish priest is perfect.
It could be done in confession-nothing technically said to anyone. Yet I know that my old priest(when I still attended mass) could recognize my voice immediately at confession.
Perfect way to get some looks. Great idea!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:48 PM
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12. OMG
I'm so sorry to read that your father would say such hateful things. I'm glad to see that your brother doesn't fall into this line of thinking. Your brother sounds like a strong person, to listen to such speak and turn and walk away without beating the crap out of him.

I'm very sorry that you're having to deal with this. :hug:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:51 PM
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13. Your dad is an asshole.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:51 PM
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14. he sounds really toxic...were his parents miserable to him?
He may not know how to deal with people based on what happened to him as a kid. That doesn't excuse his behavior to his own children.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:04 PM
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17. Jeezus!
I'm so sorry NickB79-I don't know how I would handle a family member like that. My sister is pregnant with an unplanned pregnancy right now, and my born again mom is just thrilled that she didn't get an abortion (my atheist dad wishes she had gotten an abortion, but since it's her body he respects her wishes). Your fathers viewpoint is beyond baffling-anti-abortion and pro-death at the same time??? Makes no sense whatsoever( but then again; that's a neo-con for you)!



:hug:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 05:04 PM
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18. Sounds like everyone should quietly just walk away and never return
I don't buy into the whole "blood is thicker than water" bullshit. Abuse doesn't deserve an audience and it sounds like you, your brother and his new family would be better off just completely separating yourselves from this guy.
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