Why is Braveheart not the greatest movie of all time?

[kerrywins]

?

[tjdee]

1. I don't think it is...can't pinpoint a reason.

So very many of my male friends point to that as their favorite movie, or one of their favorites...just don't get it.

:shrug:

I do think it must have been a chore for Mel to direct and star in it.

[Dookus]

2. umm...

maybe because of the suckage?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

42. I second that

Braveheart is enabled with major suckage.

[pinkpops]

3. Because there is too much competition?

[sundog]

4. because it sucks

cause I said so :P

[bigwillq]

5. I thought Braveheart sucked

Just wasn't interested in yet.

[ghostsofgiants]

6. Because Fight Club is...

Simple as that.

[katinmn]

25. Fight Club. It's quite a movie!

[ProfessorGAC]

47. You're Not Supposed To Talk About Fight Club

It's rule #1.
The Professor

[MASSAFRA]

7. Because

The Godfather is.

[neuvocat]

8. Because it is not The Lord of the Rings.

[DS1]

9. Because there's no way it should be?

[warrens]

10. Oh, come on, watching Mel Gibson being torn to pieces

You can't come much closer to wish fulfillment than that.

[ReadTomPaine]

32. Point taken, but not good enough.

For instance, that happens all the way at the end.

[LiberallyInclined]

49. but you don't actually get to see the disembowelment-

major disappointment.

[Wickerman]

11. Average NetFlix rating is 3 stars out of 5

so, going out on a limb I'm going to say its not the greatest movie of all time because it has a rating right up there with Addams Family Values, Cabin Boy and Private Benjamin.

Personally, I didn't like it. YMOV

[ScreamingMeemie]

12. Because Titanic was better.

:P

[Jack Rabbit]

13. Because there are dozens of better films

Citizen Kane
The Bicycle Thief
Dr. Strangelove
Vertigo
Some Like It Hot
The Maltese Falcon
The Searchers
Grand Illusion
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
The Last Laugh
Metropolis
Potemkin
Taxi Driver
Network
many, many more.

[SnowBack]

14. The homophobia in it is disgusting

It's a piece of junk if you ask me....

:puke:

[ReadTomPaine]

35. And completely gratuitous, to boot.

I was struck by the "I hate fags" abrupt crudeness of it's inclusion.

[sparky_in_ma]

15. The ending was far too violent

without adding to the story. To be continued in the "Passion".

"Outlaw Josy Wales", best movie.:thumbsup:

[kerrywins]

20. conservatives hate nudity

liberals hate violence.....

[Lorien]

39. Conservatives hate their lust, and hate

female nudity for having the power to make them lust. They don't see beauty in nudity, or in lovemaking, or in creation itself. Their self hate won't allow it.

They love violence though, because it gives them a sense of control and power over others, when they have none over themselves. Death and destruction Yes, Love and creation, absolutely not-proving once again that there's nothing remotely "Christian" about a republican.

The conservatives I know only find Cathrine McCormick's breast offensive in that film. One even told me that he would allow his 5, 7, and 8 year olds to watch the entire film if only the honeymoon scene were edited out. :eyes:

[hyphenate]

46. You're partially right

Conservatives hate the fact that sexuality exists for reasons other than reproduction (in other words, they hate when you're having fun having sex) and/or because they get caught abusing it too often (mistresses, getting caught with their dominatrix), masturbating, etc.), and liberals hate violence because they tend to believe we're more civilized (or should be) than we were 200-1000 years ago, which isn't necessarily true.

[mondo joe]

16. It sucks is why. "Freedom" my ass.

Wallace was a royal himself.

What does anyone think - he wanted to establish a DEMOCRACY?

Then there's the homophobic content.

Bah.

[Dogmudgeon]

17. Homophobia?

Sorry, I didn't see any in the movie (but, in fairness, I did watch it on cable, so they might have edited it out). Could you give a few examples to maybe jog my memory?

Otherwise, I thought it was a pretty good movie. Maybe not the best one ever made, but it was good.

--P!

[kerrywins]

21. you didn't know william wallace was scared of gays?

thats common knowledge....thats how he lost....to a gay army....

[stopbush]

18. Because Gibson filmed the Battle of Stirling Bridge without the bridge.

And the bridge played a major part in the decision in that battle.

Don't tell me they couldn't afford to build a bridge for the movie.

[NewJeffCT]

30. that was kind of important, eh?

I thought I read in the history of Wallace that he got beat once by the English & basically went into hiding for several years before re-emerging. And, the whole thing of Wallace against the nobles - wasn't Wallace from a noble family IRL?

Though, the movie did do a good job with humor to get around the fact that Wallace, IRL, was supposed to be a huge man and Mel is not exactly Shaquille O'Neal.

and, I did like the movie quite a bit.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

43. Exactly, Wallace was 6'8" in real-life n/t

[ReadTomPaine]

36. They claimed money in HC's "History vs Hollywood" ep about it..

if memory serves.

[kodi]

19. 3 words

men in skirts

[Parrcrow]

22. Because of the script, the directing and the acting.

all crappy.:popcorn:

[chaska]

23. See Rob Roy. Same movie, but much, much better.

[dflprincess]

24. I agree

n/t

[bridgit]

26. tell me why mcgoohan wasn't up for supporting...

as longshanks????????



:shrug:

[ReadTomPaine]

33. Because he's had finer moments..

or



heck.. even



and



;)

[bridgit]

37. missed point---------->0

[Abelman]

38. Who is number one?

That would be telling!

BWWAAAHAAAHAA!

[Robeson]

27. Because its not Citizen Kane.

[MrSlayer]

28. Very good movie but there were some mistakes.

Like the battle scene where Wallace is running without his sword drawn, then it is, then it isn't. I also liked "The Patriot" better.

[maveric]

29. Not to Hijack, but you are beautiful!!

:wow: :loveya:

[kerrywins]

31. thank you

ur 2 sweet.....
i wish i could get compliments like that in real life....

[grace0418]

34. It's not even in the ballpark. It's just another

vehicle for Mel Gibson to preen in front of the camera. What a self-righteous prick.

[d_b]

40. Because it isn't Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.

[The Magistrate]

41. Because Mel Gibson Is In It, Ma'am

That lets it straight out of consideration. Though if they had actually hanged, drawn, and quartered the fellow at the end, it could have made an impressive run at the title....

[MrScorpio]

44. Because it's not Love Actually

(Yeah, I've been on a Love Actually kick lately... I just love that movie)

[hyphenate]

45. Because it's overly violent

it's directed by fundie Gibson, and it's not a cinematic masterpiece?

[mr blur]

48. Because it's just another average film

and there are so many of those.They're even doing remakes of old average films.

[LiberallyInclined]

50. two reasons-

1.Mel
2.Gibson