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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:12 PM
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Why is it so cool to insult people because they like things we don't?
I mean seriously... :wtf:

Now mind you I'm not talking about liking screwing over the poor.. I'm talking about singers and TV shows and movies and such. I can see people saying "you're nuts" but implying people are stupid, and NOT in a joking way? Comparing people to bush voters because they like American Idol?

What's up with that?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:14 PM
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1. Agreed. From a diehard Country fan...who likes to watch Nascar
too. And I was out there stumping last election even. :hi:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:30 PM
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18. I love honky tonk and rockabilly!
so sue me. Nascar? Well, if I were driving one of those cars okay, but I don't get much into watching it.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:33 PM
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20. Well, between you and me...and 60 some thousand others...I think
Bobby LaBonte is Hot! Which is mainly why I watch. :hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:36 PM
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21. hahahaha...
Well I don't like Nascar, but I sure miss Johnny Cash... and I like Dwight Yoakam, too. Oh and Allison Krauss... I could go on. :)
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:51 PM
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61. Johnny Cash rulez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man I miss him. Dwight is good too. If you like Dwight check out Radney Foster and Wayne Hancock. Both are from Texas!!!!!!!!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:10 PM
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44. My dad's a diehard country and NASCAR fan also.
Amazingly, he also managed to hold a white-collar job for 41 years and vote Democrat in every presidential election.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:23 PM
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54. Heehheee! I am starting to think your father is my father.
;)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:17 PM
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2. You like Genesis.
Moron.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:19 PM
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4. Eat me!
Elitist bastard! :grr:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:22 PM
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8. On the other hand, why is anyone with taste labelled an "elitist?"
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:23 PM
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10. Touche!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:25 PM
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13. They're not, silly.
They're only elitists when they start being nasty.

And you know I was joking with the hedgehog.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:26 PM
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15. And why is anyone who thinks about their appearance SHALLOW?
I was informed that people who express themselves through personal appearance are shallow.

And I wonder why it's any more or less shallow than any other graphic depiction.

I wonder why aesthetics are such a dirty concept to some.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:30 PM
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17. 'Cause they're intractably ugly.
KIDDING!
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:38 PM
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23. ohhh snap
randomkoolzip - 1
no taste - 0
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:03 PM
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39. The elitist tag gets slapped on them
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 02:06 PM by Mike Daniels
when they act like cultural snobs and look down upon and sneer at anything that isn't classified as high culture or quality "whatever".

I love great literature, classical music, 4 and 5 star restaurants and art films (as a sampling). But, I also also enjoy crashing on the couch with some pop-literature and watching junk like American Idol or CSI or "Ernest Goes Somewhere Cheap while stuffing my face with Gummi Bears.

That doesn't make me a cultural neanderthal or hick and anyone who implies that it does "is" an elitist.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:15 PM
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47. Well said!
:hi:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:20 PM
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52. Good God! ERNEST MOVIES!!!!!!!
Sorry, but you ARE stupid! :evilgrin: (JUST KIDDING!)

My taste in movies is pretty horrible too. If doesn't have explosions and/or spaceships etc. I'm just not interested.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:22 PM
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9. Puuuleeeeze
you can't get more elitist than liking Genesis, the greatest band of all time!!!



three empty snakelike bodies float, silent sorrow in empty boats.

david
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:25 PM
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14. Nooooooo, because
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 01:26 PM by redqueen
I don't put people down for not liking them. THAT's the difference.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:17 PM
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3. Poor boundaries. All about poor boundaries.
Nothing is more heartbreaking to me than to find my "allies" aren't really against intrusions on freedom - they just want a different set of intrusions.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:19 PM
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5. That's it exactly.
What's so hard to get about it? :shrug:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:22 PM
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7. In GD there is a thread about a kid with pink hair who is called a FREAK
and STUPID and more.

I'm left feeling like I stumbled onto Free Republic when dems are so fascist about personal aesthetics.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:24 PM
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12. Seriously?
People here are calling them that?

What the hell is going on?!

:banghead:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:47 PM
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27. and then there's always the tattoo/piercing threads
they're freaks too!!!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:18 PM
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51. What's freakish (or stupid) about pink hair?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:25 PM
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57. I wonder how many who say it remember the days when long hair was
a political statement (on men anyway!).

I can just not believe it when I see democrats arguing for fashion fascism.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:39 PM
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60. Good point.
I've noticed this with friends of mine who are parents now. The things their parents told them about their music / fashion, they're now repeating to their kids.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:20 PM
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6. A lot of it is baiting, I think
in order to get a discussion going.

I like to ream anyone who loves Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies because I really can't stand the popularity they've gained. I don't, of course, mean to imply that the people who liked it are stupid, just that they lack taste :).

Really, it's just to try to get a discussion out of them, most of the time.

As far as entertainment goes, I don't care what people enjoy. I may not get it and I may not like it, but that's not my business.

david

PS Jackson is a HACK!!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:24 PM
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11. Yeah that's not what I'm talking about.
"You're nuts" "You have no taste" all that stuff is usually said with a good tone of humor and well-intentioned. See... you even put a smiley there. It's manners. It's consideration.

Or consider hedges up there... we all know he's a cantankerous old bastard (or at least enjoys putting on the act) so we don't take him too seriously when he rips into us.

But some are seriously indicting others when they say 'you're an idiot'... they're not kidding... they really believe it.

:crazy:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:27 PM
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16. OR am I wrong?
Now I'm wondering if others are really serious when they say others are crazy or nuts for liking blah blah blah...

Jesus Tapdancing Christ...
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:33 PM
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19. LOL
I think most people are kidding, though I'm not always kidding about thinking that they have bad taste and that they're WRONG!

But that doesn't mean that I don't think they have a right to be wrong.

:)

david
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:37 PM
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22. Yeah I thought so.
And yeah I still get you on the yeah you can like them but you're WRONG thing. :)

I posted a thread a while back. Everything I like doesn't suck, and everything I don't like sucks. That settles it. :)
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:41 PM
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24. If that thread offends you, I don't think you are allowed to ...
talk about it here. At least, that's what I've been told.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:44 PM
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25. Hm... maybe that applies... not sure.
This isn't a discussion just about American Idol haters - it's about anyone that is seriously nasty to people because of their meaningless and harmless likes and dislikes.

:shrug:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:46 PM
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26. I agree. I've never understood why people do that.
People are different, so duh, of course they all have different tastes in things. I like something you don't like, I'm sure you like something I don't like, but why on earth would I say you're stupid or crazy for liking that thing? It's not polite. It's rude, condescending and other things.

I love AI, for whatever reason, and I'm going to watch and if that makes someone think I'm weird, well, that's their problem.

Besides, what business of theirs is it if I like something or not?




:hi: redqueen. :)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:51 PM
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30. My thoughts exactly.
It's subjective... opinion. :hi: Rev Acts. :)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:56 PM
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34. Yup, everything is subjective.
So why get all pissy with people because they like something? Bleh.

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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:49 PM
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28. I thought we were supposed to be *liberals*
I recently got called a beer-swilling, sedentary moron because I enjoy baseball. It sort of boggled the mind.

Aren't we supposed to be the party of tolerance?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:52 PM
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32. They weren't kidding?
That's truly mind-boggling, yes.

Tolerance, yes... that's what I thought, too. It's not like you said you like hunting gorillas. Geez.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:37 PM
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58. Nope, not at all
Needless to say, I have my first entry into my ignore list.
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:50 PM
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29. I'm a huge Bob Dylan fan, so I'm used to it.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 01:51 PM by Longgrain
Not very knowledgeable (but open to learn) about other types of music.

My tastes in music sucks but I don't care. I never put much thought into music.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:54 PM
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33. Whaaaaaaaa?
I didn't know people ragged on Dylan fans. That's crazy!
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:57 PM
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36. "He can't sing." is the one I hear the most followed by
"You must like falling asleep."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:01 PM
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37. Oh that... yeah that's fair IMO
Just saying what you think about the artist... or that it's boring.

I was talking more about what sir captain talked about. Really insulting, nasty comments. That's what confounds me.
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:51 PM
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31. Because for some people culture is akin to religion - nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:01 PM
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38. Ooooh interesting! n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:57 PM
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35. My favorite comment
When you're talking about some light harted fluff program or movie and someone stays something like "Oh how can you stand to watch/listen to that? That program/movie is an insult to my intelligence!". :wtf:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:04 PM
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41. Heh... yeah...
I'm far too smart to watch that! :eyes:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:03 PM
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40. i get annoyed at the dumbing down of 'Murica
:shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:08 PM
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42. Dude! Look at your sig line!
:P

Seriously, though... IMO what dumbs us down is not what we enjoy as entertainment... it's what we do with our brains when we're not sitting idly, being entertained.

I guess what I really don't understand is why anyone would associate what you find entertaining with being smart, and what others enjoy as being dumb? I know some extremely intelligent Nascar fans and some dipshit republicans who love physics and classical music.

I guess, to me, it's kinda like assuming all women would be great leaders 'cause they're not usually as violent as men... or that all men would be horrible stay-at-home parents because they're not usually as nurturing as women.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:09 PM
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43. for me?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 02:11 PM by matcom
its when rants are started about said "dumbing down", ranting about how stupid the "dumbing down" is which in fact, "dumbs it down" further :crazy:

and on edit: my purple hippo can kick yo' ASS! :P
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:14 PM
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46. Good God...
I actually understood that. :o

I think the word you meant to use there was 'kiss'. :P
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:12 PM
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45. I don't know
maybe some people have a superiority complex.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:16 PM
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49. Heh... yeah, or maybe in some cases
it's a front to cover their insecurity.

:shrug:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:15 PM
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48. Anyone Who Likes Stuff That I Don't Like and Who Doesn't Like Stuff That I
Do like IS stupid. :evilgrin:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:16 PM
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50. I know you are, but what am I?
:P
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:21 PM
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53. Live and let live.
I can't imagine bringing myself to get worked up over what other people like to do to express themselves or entertain themselves when it doesn't involve harming anyone else.

Things that upset me include the "dumbing down" of great classic literature so the masses can "understand" them (or worse, "modernizing" them), and the colorization of beautifully filmed black and white movies, but that has to do with the degradation of works of art and not anyone's personal preferences.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:23 PM
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55. If you reject entertainment and fashion you are a big old homophobe!
Just saying. ;-)
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:25 PM
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56. I know exactly what you're talking about.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:37 PM
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59. Kick
n/t
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