Don't be a teacher.

[GOPBasher]

Seriously, don't. I'm not kidding. This is the worst fucking job ever. If you're already a teacher, let's get the fuck out of this business. It's so ridiculous. I have so much responsibility and I make $25,000/yr. GRRRRRRRRR!!!! :grr:

Sorry, I'm having a bad day with students.

[HEyHEY]

1. Stop whining - go take it out on the kids!

:evilgrin:

[GOPBasher]

7. Good idea!

[MemphisTiger]

2. Give them a pop test and get back at them

[GOPBasher]

8. I like that idea, too! :-)

[Lavender Brown]

3. What do you teach?

:( I'm actually considering it...

[GOPBasher]

9. Don't let me turn you off from it.

Honestly, the job I had last year I loved. It was probably the best year of my life, because of my job. But I had to leave because my wife and I didn't want to live down there. Now, I'm stuck with the worst job I could've found. So, don't let this outburst turn you off from the profession. :-)

I teach physics, chemistry and 8th grade science.

[Zomby Woof]

4. Good advice

I did it for 6 long years. Even less pay, and there is no reward in babysitting the willfully ignorant - and that's just the parents and administrators.

[Richardo]

6. Badum bump.

Great line, ZombyWoof. :D

Two of my brothers are teachers - one at a private school in California and the other at a public middle school in Florida.

[GOPBasher]

10. Yeah. True. n/t

[callous taoboy]

5. Amen, bro. It's a noble profession

but I know your frustration. We have our big math test next week and we are all basket cases. What grade do you teach?

[GOPBasher]

11. I teach 12, 11 and 8.

I teach high school physics, AP physics (both grade 12), local chemistry (11) and 8th grade science.

[callous taoboy]

18. I had a friend who taught H.S. math...

He called it, "Math for the living dead."

[GOPBasher]

19. LOL

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

24. Hey, my Physics teacher was a miserable bastard too!!

Mr. Rosen, is that you?!? :evilgrin:

[GOPBasher]

25. Hey, my student last year LOVED me, and I loved them. It's not

my fault that my kids this year are annoying bastards. And they're lazy, so they're going to do poorly on the state test, which will make me look bad as a teacher. I had outstanding results last year, now this year will ruin it.

[callous taoboy]

31. Did you ever see that e-mail that

was in circulation called, "No Dentist Left Behind," which pointed out how absurd NCLB is? The premise was that dentists' salaries are not based on the number of cavities they help prevent. Dental care begins at home, man. It was great.

I have a great class this year. They kicked major butt on the reading test and I'm hoping for similar results on the math test. However, this week some have been falling apart on me. One kid has been abandoned by his father as of a week ago. Another told his mom the other night that he has nightmares that he will not pass the math test, and this is a bright kid. Our scrotum-in-cheif has, as he did with the middle east, lobbed and hand grenade into the public education system with no plan on how to help the wounded.

[GOPBasher]

35. I never saw that, but that's a very good point.

You make good points.

[DontBlameMe]

28. Good for you.

My physics teacher was my favorite. Instead of just giving you equations, he started just about every new chapter with, "So, we have F=MA" and would extrapolate from there. Every new concept we learned where it came from, how it related to everything else, and how it fit into the real world.

A real class act.

[GOPBasher]

29. Thanks.

It sounds like you had a good teacher. :-)

[Tektonik]

12. Teachers in LA start at about 40K

:shrug:

[GOPBasher]

14. Yeah, I'm in a private school that doesn't pay shit. I need to go back

to the public schools. I loved my job last year.

[callous taoboy]

32. This is surprising.

I'd have thought that, while the pay may be lacking, you would have lots of parental support and some bright kids. Or are they bright but just not motivated by the drudgery that school has become under NCLB (or do you even have to contend with that since you are private).

[GOPBasher]

40. Yeah, we still contend with that, but that's not the thing.

These students are, for whatever reason, way less motivated and much more lazy than my public school students last year. :shrug:

[_TJ_]

13. Sadly teachers are underpaid everywhere

It is a shame. A good teacher will be remembered by their
pupils for the rest of their lives. Anyone that can improve
the lives of so many people should command a heftier salary
than that :(

[GOPBasher]

16. Last year, I loved my job.

I loved my kids and I loved my job. I got paid more, too, but it's mainly the kids that made me love it. Then I got married, and my wife and I wanted to live elsewhere, so I had to leave the job I loved. Now, I hate the job I'm stuck with. Way more work, way less pay, and worse kids that make it harder for me to succeed.

[Richardo]

15. Your subject line makes me think 'more cowbell!'

All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
Seasons don't fear the reaper
Nor do the wind the sun or the rain (we can be like they are)
Come on baby (don't be a teacher)
Baby take my hand (don't be a teacher)
We'll be able to fly (don't be a teacher)
Baby I'm your man
La-la-la-la-la la-la-la-la-la :D

[GOPBasher]

17. LOL.... One can probably make a good parady out of that! n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

20. Yeah, DC area schools start at $35k and get steady raises.

I think you need to find a new school!

[GOPBasher]

21. Yeah, I do. n/t

[cassandra uprising]

22. hang in there

i was a freelance teaching artist at a magnet high school in hartford and have often considered taking the plunge and going public.

it's a tough gig, and your kids are lucky to have you, but do what you gotta do to stay sane.

:hug:

[GOPBasher]

23. Thanks for the encouraging words!

:hug:

Are you still freelance teaching?

[cassandra uprising]

26. unfortunately, no

it wasn't enough money. i was offered a full time status for next fall, but my fiance and i are moving to new york. a part of me feels like, i wouldn't be a very good teacher without first having taken a full on stab of becoming a professional artist. i've seen a lot of teaching artists (especailly actor types like myself) get stuck teaching and not really doing much of anything else. also, if i took that full time gig, i probably would never leave connecticut.

edit; typos

[GOPBasher]

27. Well, good luck with the art!

I've always wished I had artistic talent. I'm so math/science, but not creative abilities at all. But good luck with that! An artist in New York? Yeah, you sound like one "them libruls" to me. :-)

[cassandra uprising]

30. thanks, i need it

however, i think you should cut yourself some slack. there's plenty of art and creativity to be found in math and science. i'm also not a big fan of the concept of talent. sure folks have a natural disposition to certain types of learning, but the word talent lets people of the hook. i'm sure you work your butt off to be knowledgeable in your field as does any musician, artist or scientist.

i had a run in with a student from bennington college. she was a dancer who was also studying brain chemistry (neurology ?). she wanted to understand on a scientific level what she intrinsically understood as fact in her body. she wanted to map what happens to a human brain when a person goes into a trance through dancing.

stories like that give me hope. i was told by high school algebra teacher that i didn't have the aptitude for math and that i should taken a course that was fun.

it really f-ed with my already low self esteem. but by the time i put myself through community college, i took every algebra course i could. i was determined not to feel dumb because i wasn't a math person.

whew- thanks for indulging the rant.

and while i'm excited by moving to ny, and putting my money where my mouth is, i'm scared out of my mind.

at least i'll be in liberal-land :)

[GOPBasher]

38. You make good points.

I can understand why you're scared, but like you said, as least your in liberal land! :-)

[TrogL]

33. I gave it up after three years

The principal hated my guts and I never knew whether my tuba player was gonna be there or in jail for car theft. They never said anything about that in teacher's college.

[GOPBasher]

36. LOL.. No, they don't talk about much in teacher's college, do they? n/t

[callous taoboy]

39. LOL Can't trust those tuba players:

Did he steal cars to transport tuba? Were his intentions at least good?

Three years is the average time a Texas teacher teaches before moving on. Incredibly sad. As a youngster I had teachers that had been at it for the long run. Dedication counts for so much. Thanks for trying, anyway.

[noonwitch]

34. Get a job in a wealthy suburban district, or a big city with state aid

Detroit teachers start out at about $40,000, and only go up from there. They are unfortunately laying a bunch off right now (the Bush economy).

Suburban Detroit districts pay similarly. Some pay extremely well, like Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills or the Grosse Points.

Michigan in general pays teachers pretty well, unless it is a rural community like northern Michigan or the UP.

[GOPBasher]

37. Yeah, I've been trying to.

I had a job last year that payed pretty well, but I had to leave it because my wife and I wanted to live elsewhere. Now I'm stuck with this.