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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:53 AM
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Hooters question
The restaurant, that is. My husband and I went there tonight for some wings and beer and to watch the Kentucky-Michigan State bball game, and our waitress kept sitting down at our table and talking to us. Double overtime and she's talking about her boyfriend's broken toe! S@#$!

I'm not offended by the silly outfits - though I must say, I've observed few women who actually have "hooters" bigger than mosquito bites that could fit into the rest of the outfit. But the uninvited chit-chat was annoying. I noticed other waitresses sitting at other tables chatting up their customers. Is this part of the "experience"? I mean, are they trained or instructed to grab a seat and take a load off?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:56 AM
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1. I think that is their MO
although it is stupid to try and work it against a couple.
I haven't been there in years cause I think it's overpriced and the food is not very good, but I think they're MO is to sit down with guys at tables and lead them to believe that they are interested in them.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:02 AM
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7. That's kind of what I thought
It was actually kind of interesting to watch the tables of guys who were blessed with a waitress at their table - groups of guys in a small college town in Alabama drinking beer with an NCAA basketball tourney regional final on ten TVs, and not one eye was on the game!

My husband (yes, him too!) and I just wanted her to get lost so we could watch the game!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:07 AM
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9. It does get annoying
And don't get me wrong, I'm a straight guy who would love a sexy woman to sit at my table, but it's annoying when it's obvious that it's not sincere.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:36 AM
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25. Sure. If it's really like that (never been inside one....the restaurant,
I mean), isn't it -- at heart -- not a lot different in dynamic than the kind of thing exemplified by the movie-stereotyped Saigon bar girl? Not that I'm accusing Hooters waitresses of prostituting themselves...it's just that sitting down and encouraging futile interest for tips is several steps south of thye more usual tactics of merely prancing around in suggestive clothing or being kind of flirty with customers.

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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:58 AM
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27. See my post #22 below
The comparison with the "Saigon bar girls" rings - very unfortunately - true to me after this experience. The young woman (girl, really) who waited on us had obviously been coached to do what she was doing, but she was young and naive enough not to understand that her actions weren't really as likely to get a better tip out of a married couple as they might a table full of randy young men.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:04 AM
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8. We only went there
because the Buffalo's place we usually hit on the infrequent occasions we actually get to go out to watch a game was closed for Easter.

The wings weren't bad, but the "chicken fingers" were frightening.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:08 AM
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10. It's strange that they would do this with a couple...
As others have noted, the point is that the "Hooters Girl" will come over to tables with (presumably single) men and casually flirt with them. (Needless to say, any attempts by their "targets" to take it further than casual flirtation will get them thrown out.)

I don't know why your server chose to act this way with you. Maybe she'd never encountered a couple there before?

;-)

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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:10 AM
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22. She seemed VERY young
Because we live in a small college town, and she said she was from another city a few hours drive from here, I guessed she was here for school. That said, she really did look and act about 15 years old. And another waitress did bring us our pitcher, so I'm guessing she was definitely under 21.

She had absolutely NO ability to read a situation and adapt accordingly, which I always found to be a critical skill back in my table-waiting days. And every time she went to ring something into the computer/register, she would stand with her back arched and legs unnaturally wide apart (unnaturally in that context, anyway). Her young appearance and attempts to be sexy and flirtatious (with an old married couple, at that!) almost made me feel like I was in the presence of walking, talking child porn. It was really not a good experience.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:56 AM
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2. Yep, it's part of the deal
Also note lots of eye contact, occasional physical contact (i.e. hand on shoulder or arm), plus various overt displays of friendliness (like innocuous details about her personal life).

There are two reasons for all this. One is to generate repeat customers (i.e. guys who come back looking for their particular favorite waitress). The other is to generate bigger tips.

(Insert obligatory nipple pun response here.)
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:21 AM
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13. Hahaha
I can't think of a single reply.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:51 AM
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21. I can. "Well, then turn up the air conditioning. Works every time."
:evilgrin:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:38 AM
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30. sad isn't it
to think that sort of thing actually works with men. It must or the management wouldn't set that up as part of the experience. Can you imagine women being excited by men paid to flirt with them, when they know it's not genuine? Perhaps I'm naive, but I don't see that happening among any significant number of women.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:56 AM
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3. I had been to a couple of Hooters.
Never happened to me.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:59 AM
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5. a couple of Hooters?
Is that like a pair?
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:09 AM
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11. check out these hooters!
http://www.raptorshelter.org/Great%20horned%20owls%20inside%20January,%202002.jpg

A nice pair, huh?

You story reminds me of that South Park episode where Butters was obsessed with a "Raisins" waitress because she always flirted with him to extract tips from him.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:10 AM
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12. Ok, get your head out of the gutter.
Perv. :P
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:23 AM
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14. These people crawled out of the sewer Mr. Ward,
now maybe the gutter is where we should be.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:30 AM
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15. Huh?
Ok. I feel stupid. What the hell you talkin' bout boy?
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:35 AM
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16. Don't drag me into your gutter Mr. Anderson.
You know what, Anderson? You're starting to get so far up my nose, I'm beginning to feel your boots on my chin!
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:36 AM
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17. Who's Mr. Anderson?
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Freebird12004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:46 AM
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39. Inquiring minds want to know
Just who the heck is Mr. Anderson anyway ? :shrug:

I volunteered to think about duplicating a "Mrs. Robinson" type of behavior a few days ago and got a *giggle* to reward my levity.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:17 PM
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47. Gene Hackman in Mississippi Burning
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 04:19 PM by Kire
Wilem Dafoe is his partner, Mr. Ward, who doesn't want to be dragged into the gutter.

Edit: It's also my last name, and I very much prefer that people would use a line from this movie when addressing me, instead of the Matrix :puke:
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:58 AM
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4. Can't help you there
I have never been interested in going to a Hooters besides that the one around here has been closed three times for health code violations. Not exactly a record you want to have for a place you are eating at.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:02 AM
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6. P.S.
I hate going into restaurants or bars and having the server sit down and act as if I actually give a fuck about their lives. All I ask is for good, professional service, for which I compensate with tips
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:37 AM
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18. Not sure about Hooters ...
But, the sports bar I frequent has recently been taken over by a corporate chain, and they introduced scantily clad waitresses (t-shirts tied off below the chest and low-rider pants or really short skirts hung low). This was an interesting diversion the one afternoon I went in there with nothing of interest on any of the sports stations, but it quickly became annoying. I don't need my waitress to flirt with me or go half naked. I need her to keep my glass full.

I finally got tired of this during the first round of the NCAA and asked my bartender (I always sit at the bar, and the bartenders wear the same outfits as the floor waitresses) and suggested to her as politely as I could to please stop bugging me with idle chit-chat and let me watch the game. I guess she chewed on what I said and got the meaning out it without being insulted, because later she came back and apologized, saying, in an entirely different voice (not high-pitched, breathy, and giggly) that management "encouraged" them to do that. (Kinda makes me not want to go there, but it's the only half-way calm sports bar anywhere near me.) Said it sells more beer and gets them better tips.

We made a deal. I always drink the same amount of beer when I go out. And, I leave a good tip if she keeps my beer full during a game, learns when I want to tab out without me having to scream at her from across the room while she's flirting with some idiot, and doesn't, ever, stand in front of me, blocking my view of the screen, talking about stuff I don't care about. It seems to have worked well. :-)

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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:01 AM
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19. Speaking of NCAA basketball...
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 02:01 AM by southlandshari
Did you catch some of the regional finals the past two days? A record 3 of 4 in overtime!! And the question of the day for those who saw the KY-MichSt game (I saw most of it while peeking around aforementioned waitress's head) - WAS Sparks on the line or not?

I say no. What say you?

Guess this is better fodder for the Sports discussion group, but it's always a thrill when a Lounge thread I start hits double digits, I hate to let it go.

Actually, this is the first Lounge thread I've ever started that hit double digits. Yippee!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:34 AM
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20. Congrats on double-digits!

I've never done that. :-)

Yeah, I saw all the games. Definitely worth the price of admission, which is refreshing. Only thing that worries me now is that I'm not sure the Final Four can live up to the standard. :-)

I agree that he was not on the line. It was mere fractions of an inch, but the goal counted. I was just enjoying the game and not particularly rooting one way or the other, but that moment got me caught up in it.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:17 AM
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23. Sometimes after work a group will go there on Wednesdays
For the $1 beer and a few wings. I don't see this happening to us, any more at Hooters than other sports bars. But then, it's usually about 4 guys and me (a female), so maybe I'm keeping them away.

And it does bother me where ever I am if the waiter/waitress sits down at the table. It won't get you a bigger tip (I always tip well), but it will annoy me, esp if you're not keeping my drink full.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:30 AM
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24. Your job sounds familiar!
Don't know what you do, but I spent years working in college sports information, and was always the only female in the office that wasn't a 20-year secretary (nothing against them, just wasn't one of them!). So I had lots of beers and wings in lots of sports bars with lots of guys - it was either that or frozen pizza at home alone every night!

Hooters wasn't even around back in "the day" for me, but I'd bet if it had been, I'd have been sitting right where you are now, PC or not. Keep those guys straight for us all! :)
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:39 AM
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26. I'm the evening receptionists at a car dealership
I think out of the 70 employees, there are about 10 women, and I'm the only one there at night and Saturdays.
They almost treat me as one of the guys, but if I see them looking at a girl, they almost always apologize, even though I'm not offended in the least.
The plus side, I forgot to put on mascara Saturday morning. I have red hair and really light eyelashes. I asked the guys if it looked bad, most didn't notice until I pointed it out (and there's a huge difference). And surprisingly, against the stereotype, they always notice when I get my hair cut.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:26 AM
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28. How large does the waiters cup size have to be?
I didn't know that they hired men. Isn't there a cup size requirement at Hooters? :evilgrin:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:33 AM
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29. funny isn't it
about the mosquito sized hooters. I've never been in the restaurant. I refuse on principle.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:45 AM
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31. That's not what I have heard
Someone sued Hooters over "cup size" several years ago. Hooters will not hire you unless you are at least a size C and that's wouldn't be considered mosquito bites.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:52 AM
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32. I'm not convinced
not from seeing some of the women around town and on TV.

Wasn't there also a lawsuit from a man who wanted to be hired as a waiter?
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:10 AM
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34. "Yes, they did"
Have you ever seen a flat chested woman in one of their ads?
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:14 AM
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35. I guess it's a question of perspective
to me they all look flat. Whatever you want to call it, it works. Obviously they've got a winning business plan.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:57 AM
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33. I've seen plenty of Hooters girls that were A or B cups
Not a majority, mind you, but enough to realize that cup size probably is not a requirement.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:17 AM
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37. "Hooters"
The skimpy uniforms stresses what "Hooters" stands for and it's now Owls. Men do not go to Hooters for their cuisine and beer alone. :crazy:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:39 AM
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46. I used to visit a friend in Florida
After I got out of college in '89... Hooters was a big deal down there and hadn't spread up North yet. They stressed the "owl" theme back then, too.

We had talked about opening a Hooters in Connecticut back then, but we thought it would never fly up North... who knew Hooters would be big all over? They have at least 2 or 3 in Connecticut now, New York City has some and they recently opened Hooters-Shanghai.
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BlondieK143 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:14 AM
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36. You've heard wrong.
My cousin worked there for a year during college to pay the bills. She's an A. In all her time working there, no one was ever hired on cup size alone (and certainly not required to have a C cup). The managers told her they were going for an overall 'look'. And for the one in her area, they wanted beach looking (blonde hair, blue eyes) kind of girls.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:18 AM
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38. yeah, my guess is
that the women whose breasts are large (D or bigger) have fake breasts. As the OP noted, if a woman has naturally large breasts, she doesn't have the kind of body that works well in those little costumes. She doesn't have that overall "look" the company evidently prefers.
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:59 AM
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40. Someone manufacturers little girls Hooters halloween costumes
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 08:09 AM by WinterStorm
:scared:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:00 AM
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41. what?
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WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:10 AM
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42. Halloween costumes
Someone was selling them on eBay last year :puke:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:20 AM
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44. oh I see
I thought the comment was meant to somehow relate to my post. You're right, that's horrifying. What kind of parent would allow their daughter to wear such a thing.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 05:24 PM
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48. Whoever sued must have won
Because our waitress looked pre-pubescent.

:shrug:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:13 AM
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43. Thankfully Hooters has take-out
I confess, I like Hooters Hot Wings (Naked - why anyone wants all that breading is beyond me) and they have awesome grilled cheese sandwiches.

I use to go there on lunch break with a co-worker when I was working the graveyard shift (we'd go late before the place closed at nights) and nothing was more irritating that his idiot with the IQ of a gnat sitting at our table talking mindless shit with us.

So to solve the problem - takeout. But I only do their food like 2-3 times a year because it is so fattening
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:28 AM
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45. yet another reason never to go there
Never been to a Hooters, never will. I regularly attend a big hobby show that takes place near a hooters. Most of the collectors are middle aged guys and the Hooters girls come over and giggle and flirt and give out stickers. Some of the guys really! eat it up and get their photos taken with the girls. I think it's pretty pathetic to see an overweight 60 year old balding guy believe that cute 19 year old waitress REALLY thinks he's funny and cute.
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