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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:18 AM
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Renal failure / kidney disease in CATS - Help!

My eldest cat (my first ever cat, and first pet as an adult) has just been diagnosed with renal disease. He's been acting normally, eats and drinks normally, but has lost an extreme amount of weight. He feels very frail and bony - and not at all solid.

#1 on the list is a diet change. I'm not really sure what to do here, and am hoping someone on DU can help with some suggestions there, and on anything else I may find helpful. I would rather avoid one of the traditional vet-supplied "prescription" diets - as I'm a big believer in super premium pet foods, made with human grade ingredients, and of course - they are difficult to find. Even MORE difficult when looking for one suitable for cats with renal disease. I've spent a few hours on the internet already, and am coming up mostly empty. I'd like to know what's worked for any of you - and what I need to be aware of.

I'm a little upset about this, and am forced to face the mortality of an animal I can barely remember being without. Crossing the country, residing in 2 states, numerous apartments, homes, roommates, other animals, boyfriends have come and gone... he's been a constant.

I will do whatever it takes to keep him as healthy as possible and give him an excellent quality of life, and for as long as it takes. Some direction would be much appreciated.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:21 AM
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1. I had this happen to a dog we had
The vet prescribed a specific dog food, which was salt-free and quite lean. Smelled disgusting, though.

I understand your wanting not to go the vet route, but our dog got a couple of very happy years that she would not have had otherwise.

Eventually, though - and I don't blame you if you don't like me posting this - the kidney failure got her.

I wish you all the luck in the world.
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:30 AM
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5. re: the vet -
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:31 AM by Madrone
I had a long phone conversation with him this evening. In discussing food he did mention the prescription foods available from the vet - he suggested a particular kind (forgot the name) that I can order online at a greatly reduced cost. He's more than willing to fax a prescription anywhere I want him to. Basically, he's very willing to see what I may come up with, and has admitted that he (and most vets) are extremely unaware of what's available beyond the stuff the petfood industry pushes on them. It's not that I don't want to go the vet route, but that I'm unconvinced that that would be the BEST route. I'm in search of something that will do what the vet prescribed stuff does - but better.

My vet is also very interested in what I may turn up. He provided me with his email address and asked me to pass on anything I may turn up, for his review and for his curiosity.

He did give me a few guidelines to shoot for - restricted protein, less phosphorus, less acid, and more potassium. He gave me the name of a powdered potassium supplement I can purchase.

He's a VERY cool vet - and rather than being threatened by a person like me (researches everything to death, self-diagnosing, inherently skeptical of pet food companies, etc..) is actually very interested and eager to learn. He rocks!

Anyway - sorry about your dog. :( I'm okay with you posting this. I'm in no way under the impression that this is something to be cured. It's terminal, and I'm just looking to keep him as healthy as possible for as long as possible.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:45 AM
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11. Ironically, the holistic approach recommends AGAINST the lower protein
approach.

I generally begin by educating the animal's guardian about the dangers of commercial foods and the benefits of fresh-food feeding. Conventional veterinarians are under the misunderstanding that low protein diets are the best way to feed an animal with chronic renal failure. My experience is that such an approach will lead to the death of the animal in a few months (thus bringing their prognosis to fruition). I have found that just the opposite approach is the most effective for most animals. I suggest feeding a high protein, raw-meat-based diet. I have seen dramatic reductions in elevated kidney blood tests within two weeks in some patients. Why does conventional medicine do the opposite? Because all of the conventional nutrition research is done with processed foods. I haven't seen any done with raw foods. I believe this is the reason for the research data. Heat-treated animal protein, as found in commercial foods, is more difficult to digest. This results in more protein (nitrogen) waste, which the kidneys must remove from the bloodstream. Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) is a protein waste that is measured in a blood test. Therefore, a diet that has high levels of cooked protein is more stressful to the kidneys and results in higher toxicity (BUN) in the blood if the kidneys are not functioning well. Raw protein, in comparison, digests more completely with less waste. This results in more protein for healing and rebuilding tissue without the renal stress. Remember, by nature carnivores eat a very high protein diet. They should have the ability to handle it. Another benefit of the raw foods is that they contain much more water than dry foods. This helps the kidneys discharge waste material. I would not be writing this information if I had not seen many animals improve on such a regimen. Other holistic vets are having the same results." read more

Diet in controlling Chronic Renal Failure (CRF)
In the past, it was believed that a low protein diet was essential in controlling Chronic Renal Failure (CRF). The idea behind this is to cut down on the kidneys' load. However, studies done on dogs in renal failure, show that a low protein diet did not help the GFR or BUN of said dogs. Since cats have an even higher protein requirement than dogs, it seems unlikely that they could thrive on low protein diets. As an obligate carnivore, they need the nutrients only available from meat. So one has to walk a fine line between making sure all the kitty's nutritional needs are met, and keeping the stress on the kidneys as low as possible. more info

"Very Important to Feed a ALL Natural Diet homeprepared meals of cooked or raw chicken ot turkey meats ( any type of artifical foods that come in tin or wrappter are full of chemical/toxins which will only continue to burden the kidneys and add more toxins in the body. With more damage the toxins that are normally filtered by the kidney begin to build up and can cause depression, decreased appetite, a foul odor to the breath, oral ulceration, and vomiting. In the end stage of renal failure, a low body temperature, seizures, and severe depression and coma can result." Diana Hayes DIHom

In his book Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats Dr. Pitcairn write: "...Chemicals in food (like preservatives, coloring agents and artificial flavoring agents) and in the environment (contaminated water, air and soil) are directly stressful to the kidneys and probably play a role in the development of the condition. In addition, lack of adequate exercise and diminished exposure to natural environments compound the problem of inadequate elimination and a sluggish metabolism. ...Long-term skin irritation and eruption often seem to precede eventual kidney failure in old age. If the skin disorder is repeatedly suppressed with doses of cortisone or related corticosteroid drugs, the relationship seems especially true." (danger of cortisone)

Dr.Hamilton DVM says ... 'diets that are low in potassium can cause renal failure.' In general Commercial diets are of poor quality protein and poorly formulated and may have led to the development of renal disease. (Natural Kidney Diet)


http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/felinekidney.htm

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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:13 AM
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15. A great post
Commercial pet food is killing our pets. My SO is moving toward BARF for our pet (no laughing!).

Good health and good wishes to Madrone and Kitty Madrone.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:26 AM
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18. Many, many of my pet-owned friends swear by the BARF diet.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 01:27 AM by BrklynLiberal
It has saved lives, returned many sick pets to health, restored brown teeth to white, made senior dogs look and act like puppies, cured what vets had diagnosed as chronic or fatal diseases, and gotten many dogs off what had been long term medications.
It does take some determination and dedication, but I have not personally heard of any one who regretted taking the steps to do it.
At the very least, one should abandon the supermarket and other so-called "premium" brands of pet food that are filled with things that would make you puke if you really knew what the list of ingredients meant. What additional money you may spend on holistic pet food, you will definitely save on vet bills.

and thanks....:hi:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:33 AM
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22. Great books for dog owners:
"Living with Wolfdogs" and "Wolfdogs, A-Z' (don't remember the author) has detailed information about the B.A.R.F diet. A wolfdog owner I know has one of the healthiest pets I've ever seen; his wolfdog Nakoma has always been on the BARF diet and she has never had a health issue or parasite (including fleas) -and she lives in Florida!

I feed my cats Brother's blend raw diet on occasion and they really seem to enjoy it. You do have to be VERY careful when handling their food if you're going to go raw,though.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:59 AM
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23. Real Medicine Is Turning Against Low Protein As Well
I'm a human with CRF, and many recent studies have shown that low-protein diets do not slow the progression of renal disease. It just follows that limiting the protein intake of an obligate carnivore makes even less sense.

My mother has an 18 year old cat with ESRD who eats a normal diet and is doing well. I help care for another cat with thyroid disease and kidney failure who also eats a normal diet, and his numbers have improved since being put on a premium diet.

I recommend Trader Joe's canned cat food for any cat, but especially cats with kidney disease/failure/ESRD. It has human-quality ingredients and no artificial colorings or preservatives (both of which are metabolized by the kidneys).
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:24 AM
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2. I am so sorry.
This is very treatable though. My boy was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He is on the no protein diet and once a week, I infuse him to keep him extra hydrated. He eats, drinks and acts normally most of the time. Last month, he had a setback, but now he is fine.

I am so sorry. I totally understand how you are feeling. There is no reason why you can't have some years with your furry little gal. It requires lots of time, worry, and money, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. There is tons of info online as well as support groups. :hug:

Last night, my boy was acting like a kitten, so he still is frisky and his quality of life is very good. Better than mine, probably:).

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:26 AM
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3. The new cat food should be as low in protein as possible
The less protein his kidneys have to process the better. If he's normally an outdoor cat, you might want to keep him inside, so he doesn't get any external protein sources.

If he's eating and drinking normally, that means he's probably eliminating waste normally as well, and that's good. But if it gets to the point where the litter box doesn't seem to be used, that's when you would have to worry. If it's possible to seperate his "facilities" from those of the other cats, it's probably a good idea, so you can monitor his system, as it were.



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:29 AM
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19. See post#11, above
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:26 AM
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4. Talk to your vet and ask for details.
Ours have not had this as an issue yet, but well.... You can make cat food fairly easily. Find out what your guy is going to need and what he must avoid (salt seems logical, but I'm sure there are other needs) and start researching catfood recipes.

But talk to your vet. Most of them are more than willing to help you help your friend.

Pcat
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:35 AM
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6. Check out this site. I have used this resource successfully many times.
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 12:37 AM by BrklynLiberal
There is a lot of information and many links there that will help you.
There are holistic diet suggestions as well.

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/felinekidney.htm


Feline Chronic Renal Failure (CRF)
Natural remedies for kidney or bladder problem, sarcoma, and other feline health conditions.
It has long been known that chronic renal failure (CRF) in cats has an inflammatory component. Chronic low-grade inflammation causes gradual destruction and scarring of the kidney, eventually resulting in loss of function and failure of the organ. However, what was not known was what caused the inflammation in the first place. Recent research from Colorado State University suggests a link between vaccination for feline distemper (panleukopenia) and the development of chronic renal failure. The distemper virus is grown in a feline kidney cell culture to make the vaccine. The distemper virus is grown in a feline kidney cell culture to make the vaccine. Earlier research at Purdue University showed that puppies given a vaccine grown in calf serum developed antibodies to calf proteins that also reacted against the puppies' own cells. These auto-antibodies (antibodies to self, or to one's own tissues) may contribute to later development of autoimmune diseases. Every subsequent vaccine caused the puppies to form even more antibodies.


I hope your cat gets much better...and survives to keep you company for many more years.

ON EDIT: Please PM me if you need any more information or help.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:36 AM
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7. Go here:
www.waggintails.com click on the "ailments" section, and they should provide a list of holistic, human grade foods for your kitty. You can also call them at their toll free number to get additional suggestions. Good luck!

:hug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:38 AM
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8. I was waiting for you to show up. Knew you would be of help.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:45 AM
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12. Thanks BrklynLiberal! Another product
that I almost forgot is Spot's Stew :http://shop.halopets.com/product2.cfm?SID=1&CustomerID=36638&jsessionid=d2302363261111124605606&Product_ID=25&Category_ID=14
it's very low in protein. Check the testimonials.

:hi:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:01 AM
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13. I would think the Merricks would be good too as it is almost like giving
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 01:01 AM by BrklynLiberal
them homemade food. The turkey and chicken foods would seem like a good suggestion. Lots of fluid, and not too much protein, but very appetizing.
Going by the recommendation I posted above, any of the commercial low-protein foods might not be the best idea.
I just checked out waggintails and was somewhat disappointed to see that all they had for cat renal failure was Hi-Tor low protein.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:49 AM
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20. Yeah, I just checked that out
I don't know anything about Hi-Tor. Is Merrick low protein? I know that it contains a lot of veggies (especially flavors like California Roll). I think the Spot's Stew is only 14% protein; Oberon loved it as a kitten, but he kept eating JUST the veggies out of the stew and leaving the chicken! Cats can't be vegetarians, of course, so we had to go on to other brands. He's such an odd beast.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:42 AM
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9. feline KD food save my kitty's life. she lived another 8 years after she
almost died of kidney failure. you can by cases of the food through the vet, it's very bland and it took a month to convert my kitty to it.
i also had to periodically give her fluids undeath the skin with an iv. but not everyday like they told me at first. and when you buy it through the web, it's much much cheaper than the vets office.
i can pm you with more info.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:45 AM
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10. Give only bottled water -- no tap - too hard on the kidneys. See below:
Oddly enough - the kidneys and the skin are closely related. I brought my magnificent huge tomcat back from being on "the brink" by brushing and brushing him - vigorously. Not TOO hard, now, but more than a gentle brushing. The stimulation of the skin also stimulated his kidneys and he lived another 5 years - keep the brushing up - they love it, too!! It sounds crazy but as a lifelong animal lover and kitty person - I swear it can be effective.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:08 AM
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14. I wish you the best of luck, at least you've caught it early
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:17 AM
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16. Compare the analysis of Merricks Cat food to the Hi-tor and see which one
you would rather feed to your cat, whether he was ill or not. Notice that the protein and moisture content are the same. It is the rest of the ingredients that are eye-poppingly different!!!

http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/detail.php?c=52&s=20248


Thanksgiving Day Dinner 3.2oz
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (Min.) 10.00%
Crude Fat (Min.) 3.00%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.5%
Moisture (Max.) 78.00%
Ash (Max.) 1.80%
Magnesium (Max.) .025%
Taurine (Min.) .08%

Calorie Content
975 kcal/kg - A 3.2oz. can provides 86 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.

Ingredients:
Turkey, Turkey Broth, Turkey Liver, Fresh Sweet Potatoes, Fresh Carrots, Fresh Green Beans, Fresh Whole Granny Smith Apples, Potato Starch-modified, Olive Oil, Flax Seed Oil (For Omega -3), Dried Cranberry, Dried Blueberry, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Tricalcium Phosphate, Cassia Gum, Carrageenan, Poultry Seasoning (Thyme, Sage, Rosemary), Choline Chloride, Salt, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Niacin, Lecithin, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Cobalt Glucoheptanate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.

Turducken 3.2oz
Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (Min.) 10.00%
Crude Fat (Min.) 3.00%
Crude Fiber (Max.) 1.5%
Moisture (Max.) 78.00%
Ash (Max.) 1.80%
Magnesium (Max.) .025%
Taurine (Min.) .08%

Calorie Content
990 kcal/kg - A 3.2oz. can provides 94 kcal of metabolizable energy, calculated value.

Ingredients:
Turkey, Chicken, Chicken Broth, Duck, Fresh Sweet Potatoes, Fresh Carrots, Fresh Snow Peas, Fresh Golden Delicious Apples, Potato Starch-Modified, Dried Cranberry, Olive Oil, Flax Seed Oil (For Omega -3), Cassia Gum, Carrageenan, Potassium Chloride, Tricalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Salt, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex,d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Niacin, Lecithin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Cobalt Glucoheptanate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.



Hi-Tor Neo Diet for Cats
The Hi-Tor Neo Diet is specifically formulated for cats requiring a low protein, restricted phosphorus diet to assist in management of renal disease. This formula is highly palatable in order to ensure adequate consumption and caloric intake.
Package: 24/6-oz cans
Ingredients:
Water sufficient for Processing, Meat By-Products, Chicken, Beef, Liver, Ocean Fish, Rice Flour, Guar Gum, Calcium Carbonate, Carrageenan, Locust Bean Gum, Potassium Citrate, Brewers Dried Yeast, Vegetable Oil, Iron Oxide, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Zinc Oxide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacinamide, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin A Acetate, Biotin, D-Activated Animal Sterol (Source of Vitamin D3), Vitamin B12 Supplement.

Guaranteed Analysis:
MOISTURE (Max) 78
FAT (Min) 10
PROTEIN (Min) 8
FIBER (Max) 1


www.waggintails.com
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:24 AM
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17. How much does it cost to feed cats the better quality foods?
A lot of posters here have disparaged the commercially available cat foods. One even said that they kill cats. But what is the alternative? How much does it cost? What is it about commercial cat food that is so bad? Someone elaborate on this topic.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 02:04 AM
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21. It depends on the product
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 02:14 AM by Lorien
typically, a tin of holistic, human grade cat food runs between $1.10-$1.85. Go to the wellness link at www.nationalpetpharmacy.com to see a range of holistic pet foods (brands like California Natural,Wellness, Halo, Merrick, Organix, Innova, Wysong, Artemis,Kosher pets, Newman's Own, etc)and compare prices. Keep in mind that these brands generally don't contain any fillers, so your pet will eat less of them and leave less waste in their litter boxes.

I became interested in holistic pet foods after losing two cats to illnesses two years ago (long, painful, and very costly battles). My pet sitter give me an article about what really goes into commercial pet foods, and after further reading I decided that I would never feed any of my pets any of those products again.

Here's just one such article:

Poisons in Pet Food from Alternative Medicine Magazine, May 1998

A homeopath of our acquaintance, who specializes in animal health, recently reported that nearly all of her new cases are dogs and cats with cancer. This is a most unusual and alarming trend, she told us.

One of the reasons American dogs and cats are getting very sick can be found in the pet foods they eat every day. The realities of animal health aren't much different than human health: if you consume a diet of toxins, eventually you will get terribly sick.

Don't expect the food label to be any true guide to the product's contents. The list of ingredients on that bag of dry pet food or can of "meat" can mask the toxic horrors behind innocuous-sounding phrases such as "meat meal," "bone meal," and "meat by-products." It's the substances you don't know about in that can of pet food that may sicken or even kill your pet.

The list of materials that go into the rendering process is extensive and horrific. When cattle, sheep and poultry are slaughtered for human consumption, the parts deemed unsuitable for eating, heads (including growth hormone implants in cattle), skin, fat containing pesticide residues, toenails, hair or feathers, joints, hooves, stomach and bowels are rendered.

Other animal parts sent to rendering plants include cancerous tissues, worm-infested organs, contaminated blood and blood clots. Compounding these toxins, slaughterhouses add carbolic acid and fuel oil to these remnants as a way of marking these foods as unfit for human consumption.

Meat and poultry by-products, another major category of pet food ingredients, are the unrendered parts of the animal left over after slaughter, everything deemed unfit for human consumption. In cattle and sheep, this includes the brain, liver, kidneys, spleen, lungs, blood, bones, fatty tissue, stomachs and intestines. The items on this list that would normally be consumed by humans, such as the liver, would have to be diseased or contaminated before they could be designated for pet food. Poultry by-products include heads, feet, intestines, undeveloped eggs, chicken feathers and egg shells.

The primary ingredient in many dry commercial pet foods is not protein but cereal. Corn and wheat are the most common grains used but, as with the meat sources, the nutritious parts of the grain are generally present only in trace amounts. The corn gluten meal or wheat middlings added to pet foods are the leftovers after the grain has been processed for human use, containing little nutritional value.

Or they may be grain that is too moldy for humans to eat, so it's incorporated into pet food.

Mycotoxins, potentially deadly fungal toxins that multiply in moldy grains, have been found in pet foods in recent years. In 1995, Nature's Recipe recalled tons of their dog food after dogs became ill from eating it. The food was found to contain vomitoxin, a mycotoxin.

Harmful chemicals and preservatives are added to both wet and dry food. For example, sodium nitrite, a coloring agent and preservative and potential carcinogen, is a common additive. Other preservatives include ethoxyquin (an insecticide that has been linked to liver cancer) and BHA and BHT, chemicals also suspected of causing cancer. The average dog can consume as much as 26 pounds of preservatives every year from eating commercial dog foods.

Recent studies have shown processed foods to be a factor in increasing numbers of pets suffering from cancer, arthritis, obesity, dental disease and heart disease. Dull or unhealthy coats are a common problem with cats and dogs and poor diet is usually the cause, according to many veterinarians and breeders. The AAFCO nutrient profiles may play a role here, in the balanced" nutritional levels they recommend may be inadequate for an individual animal.

It is estimated that up to two million companion animals suffer from food allergies.

Dr. Plechner believes that the commercial pet foods are a primary cause and can contribute to a host of health problems.

"Among pets, there is a widespread intolerance of commercial foods," he states. "This rejection can show up either as violent sickness or chronic health problems. It often triggers a hypersensitivity and overreaction to flea and insect bites, pollens, soaps, sprays and environmental contaminants."

Feline Urological Syndrome, a chronic condition similar to cystitis in humans (characterized by frequent urination with blood in the urine), is an increasingly common and potentially fatal illness in cats. It has been linked to elevated levels of ash and phosphorus, two substances commonly found in commercial pet foods. High iodine levels are seen as a contributing factor for thyroid tumors in cats. "New diseases are being discovered that are linked to '100% complete' diets," states Dr Wysong. These include Polymyopathy (a muscle disorder) from low potassium levels, dilated Cardiomyopathy (heart muscle disorder) from low taurine levels, arthritic and skin diseases from acid/base and zinc malnutrition and chronic eczema from essential fatty acid malnutrition," he reports.

Given the high possibility that your favorite pet foods may be slowly poisoning your cat or dog, it's crucial that you find brands you can trust to be animal friendly.


Some additional articles: http://www.frrhealthypet.com/id35.html
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:05 AM
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25. Subtract from the cost of the food, the vet bills that you WON'T have to
pay.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:11 AM
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26. Great post Lorien. Those mycotoxins from stale commerical food
are very, very dangerous, and sadly, not so uncommon in the cheap mass produced food. It is in the big bags of dry food that you have to be particularly careful. It is sometimes called "bottom of the bag" disease. Always make sure to check dates on bags of dry food. Never buy a bag that is torn or retaped.
Don't ever think that you are gettng a bargain if you buy a big bag and it is going to be around your house for months. That dry food hanging around at the bottom of the bag in not going to be fresh when you get to it months later.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:08 PM
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28. That's a good point
If I buy a larger bag of food, I usually seal some of it in plastic containers (large Snapware containers are good). The kitties can really tell if the food is fresh and won't go for anything that has been opened for too long (which is obviously wise of them)!
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:05 AM
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24. Learn How To Give Subcutaneous Hydrations
SubQ hydration is like dialysis for your cat. It's easy to do, and you can do it yourself at home. That is the MOST important thing to for a cat with CRF/ESRD.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:10 AM
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27. if you warm the IV bag first, it makes it easier on the cat.......
it's amazing how they perk up after a good watrering.

(you put it in a sink of hot water- not the microwave. )
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 01:19 PM
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30. My friends were told their cat had only months to live
and once they started the subQ hydration, Paco "came back".

It's been about 4 years now (he's a shelter boy, so they have no idea how old he is)

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I worry about my kitty's kidneys, and am lucky to have what we jokingly refer to as a "hippie pet food store" a few miles away. The only problem is that the Little prefer Fancy Feast, so my S.O., Mr Road of Least Resistance, buys it for her "because she'll eat it".

Well, she'll eat the hippie stuff too, if she knows that a hunger strike will NOT bring on the FF. Her tastes change, and it's frustrating - sometimes she likes Nutro, Wellness, Filidae, Evolve and sometimes she doesn't, but we can generally find some she likes.

FF just strikes me as being Big Macs for cats - they like it, but it's not very good for them.

AT least she loves MaxCat dry for fat kitties, so at least her dry food is healthy.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:29 PM
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31. a good friend who is very into wholistic medicine said she had heard that
feline kd food could be the most important thing and seem to heal the problem. so i tried really hard. i mixed in small amounts in her food little by little, she fought it, but ultimately had no choice. i'm glad i did, i think it made a huge difference, she only needed extra water maybe once a week or so, so it became really easy for the next six years. she was great.
good luck.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:49 PM
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29. My cat Elwood...
was hit with renal failure and got skinny as a rail -- at 7 pounds he was a mere shadow of his former 18 pounds. He lasted a good five years, even in that state. In the last year or so I used to give him sub Qs to help with his kidneys, but, other that that and a good diet, that was about all to do. When I finally had to let him go at 18 years old, it wasn't because of his kidneys, it was because he developed an inoperatable tumor under his tongue and couldn't eat any more. He too had been my surrogate honey since I was 22. In fact, when he was just five months old we were having a lovefest and he got a little over loving and sprayed me right in the face! (He got snipped the next day.)

As long as your guy is drinking, eating, and happy, all is well. He'll let you know when it is time.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:35 PM
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32. male cats should not eat too much dry food...high ash content it causes
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 09:51 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
kidney problems ...if you do find a dry food with an ash content 5.5% or lower. Too much ash in the diet and not enough water can lead bladder infections and kidney problems. Male cats are especially prone to this. Make sure the food you choose has taurine.
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 01:50 AM
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33. Thank you, everyone, for all the replies.

I have a LOT of work to do here! Thankfully, I bought the Innova canned cat food last week - because that's better than the quality dry that's available in the house at the moment. I've been giving Othello that 2x per day so far - hoping his appetite lessens and he isn't grazing on the regular kibble so much.

I'm really confused/torn about the less protein vs. more protein thing - I can honestly see both making sense. I'm going to contact the vet about starting sub-q, even though he didn't recommend it. He didn't advise against it - just didn't bring it up. I assumed that was because my cat isn't very dehydrated and drinks (has ALWAYS drank) plenty of water, so I didn't bring it up to him either. Now that I know it will help take a load off his kidneys and flush toxins I'm all for that!

The food is honestly going to be the worst part. I'm looking into some herbal remedies to supplement him with, and I am going to go out of my way to make sure his life is full-on kitty Disneyland from here on out. He is one awesome cat - and he deserves more relaxed rules from now on :)

If anyone thinks of anything else - I'm open to all the information you can give me!
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