CONFESS!!!! You're some sort of smart-bug, aren't you?

[LynneSin]

I love Starship Troopers!!! Such a cheesy-ass film!!

[intrepid_wanderer]

1. Cheesey...

(film) when the viewingpleasure is only increased by the next viewing where one tends to recognize additional absurdaties & silliness


I love it too... One Question though...

Stupid-funny?
or
Fun-Stupid?

i cannot decide

[Squeech]

2. Horrible

All the humans were out-acted by the computer-generated bugs.

Also, all the characters had Spanish names and were supposed to have come from Buenos Aires. Did you see anybody who looked the least bit Latino? Couldn't they have at least found a role for Salma Hayek? :evilgrin:

[LynneSin]

3. You just wanted to see Salma Hayek naked in the Co-ed shower

confess now!!!

[warrens]

5. That MIGHT get me to watch that piece of crap

I said MIGHT.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

9. I think maybe we were supposed to assume that a bunch of

Caucasians took over Buenos Aires, or something like that.

[LynneSin]

14. If you remember history - they did in a way

Remember it was Argentina along with other South American Countries that took in Nazi families on the flee. I find it Ironic that in the movie, Carl the psychic who happens to be a Colonel, seems to be dressed someone Nazi-like.

[American Tragedy]

13. Actually, there are quite a few Argentinians who don't look very Hispanic

since they are of German descent. Think back to after WWII...

[Kingshakabobo]

4. One of my comic-book/sci-fi loving friends told me..

that the original story was based on the premise the Nazis won WW2 and took over the world. Hence the militarism and citizen vs. non-citizen.

Anyone have any thoughts/verification?

[warrens]

6. I think it's more likely that Heinlein was a fascist, frankly

All of his books had a fascist tone to them.

[Squeech]

7. Disagree

The origins of the military government were quite clearly set out in the book: veterans got pissed off at the excesses of the civilian government and seized power. From the tone of the rhetoric (e.g. the word "profiteering") one could conjecture that they blamed business interests. This is distinctly unlike the Nazi program, which called for close partnership between entrenched business interests (especially the arms manufacturers) and the Reich.

And, contrary to what the poster before me said, I find it really hard to consider Heinlein a fascist. I think his work argues for a kind of frontier strain of libertarianism, which you might not find more to your taste than fascism, but Heinlein was no fan of corrupt state power. I would recommend reading The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, in which a lunar colony founded as a kind of Botany Bay revolts against terrestrial control, or Between Planets, where an economic crisis erupts into an interplanetary shooting war. Or all the rude opinions Heinlein writes about coercive government practices in Stranger in a Strange Land, Friday, Time Enough for Love, etc. (Not that the last named is anywhere near his best work.)

[Kingshakabobo]

8. Thanks! n/t

:)

[LynneSin]

15. Damn, you are one of those smart bugs

:D

[Squeech]

17. No

just another rogue science fiction fan. Heinlein was great stuff to grow up with-- made me believe in progress.

Actually there's another Heinlein novel I should have mentioned: Citizen of the Galaxy. It's one of his "juveniles," so called because it was deliberately pitched at a teenage readership, mainly meaning the main character was in that age group, and the story line generally had some coming-of-age in it (but this was the 1950s, so there couldn't be any sex in it). Anyway, Citizen of the Galaxy opens with a scared, scarred, undernourished teenage boy being sold at a slave auction on a distant planet. Since nobody else wants him, the winning bidder is a local beggar-- who, it turns out, is really a covert agent trying to destroy the slave trade. He gets caught and dies, but the hero escapes, and ultimately learns how to fight for what he really believes. This book really should put a stop to any of that Heinlein-was-a-fascist bullshit.

And yeah, I would seriously enjoy footage of Hayek in the shower.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

10. I guess that explains why there were no

Hispanics in Buenos Aires.

[RogueTrooper]

11. Have you watched it with the director's commentary on?

Paul Verhoeven spends a lot of the commentary being critical of Bush and PNAC. It is suberb!!! He also explains the reasons behind the right-wing propaganda feel of the movie. Starship Troopers is one of my favourite Sci-Fi flicks.

[American Tragedy]

12. I absolutely LOVE Starship Troopers. KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!

It's fun as hell to watch, as well as having the feel of a massive parody of Nazi/Soviet/'50s propaganda. To people my age, it also has some uncomfortable parallels with contemporary military recruiting. Why don't they make more films like this?

I went to see it with my father, since I was fourteen when it came out, and we almost felt like we were the only ones who got that movie.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

16. The parts that dealt with propaganda were brilliant

It was very good satire that went over the heads of 90% who saw the film who just wanted to see "guns, bugs exploding and stuff".

[11 Bravo]

18. Ya gotta love Doogie Howser as a bad-ass General!

[LynneSin]

19. He was only a Colonel

:D

[Huckebein the Raven]

20. Ahh but have you watched the sequel ?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367093/


and the animated series: (which I liked)


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190198/


:D

[LynneSin]

21. I don't want to ruin a good thing

I did that with Tremors. I loved the original but after watching the sequels I lost respect for the movie

[Huckebein the Raven]

22. Stay away from the sequel

:scared: :scared: