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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:28 AM
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Can someone explain/indentify "Eye of Fatima" for me?
i did a quick google search and can't really come up with anything.
i understand there is a "hand of fatima" and that there is an eye in the hand. is this eye in the hand the "eye of fatima" and what does it symbolize? just curiuos. any information would be great, thanks.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:31 AM
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1. Fatima is town in Portugal
In 1917, 3 girls allegedly spoke to the Virgin Mary. Catholics descended upon the town and many thousands witnessed the sun dancing across the sky.
A number of miracles have been associated with fatima
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:32 AM
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2. yes, i am aware of the "legend of fatima", what i am wondering about is
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 08:32 AM by SheepyMcSheepster
the specifics of the "eye of fatima", what does it represent, what does it look like.

thanks for the reply!

:hi:
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:35 AM
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3. Its a great Camper Van Beethoven song
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 08:36 AM by Wickerman
madeover by Sublime (never heard it).

Or, more to your point, try here... Might be what you are looking for, might not :shrug:

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery ;jsessionid=9055finnalc6h?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Hand+of+Fatima&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc02a
The symbol or design known in Islamic societies as the Hand of Fatima and in Jewish lore as the Hand of Miriam, or in both as "Khamsa", from the Hebrew and Arabic words for "five", serves as an ancient talismanic way of averting the evil eye, or more generally of providing a "protecting hand" or "Hand of God." It appears, often in stylised form, as a hand with three fingers raised, and sometimes with two thumbs arranged symmetrically. The symbol is used in amulets, charms, jewellery, door entrances, cars, and other places to ward the evil eye.

edit - oops,might have to cut and paste that link. :crazy:
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:39 AM
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4. Ah, ya beat me!
Although I prefer "Turquoise Jewelry." :P

FSC
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:43 AM
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5. thanks for the info
i am still wondering if the "evil eye" is considered the "eye of fatima" or if they are two seperate things, i understand the "hand of fatima" is used to protect/divert from the "evil eye", but i have still not found anything substantial about the "eye of fatima" itself.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:55 AM
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6. No, the evil eye is a gaze of a witch that cast a spell
the eye of Fatima or Hand of God is used to avert such a gaze.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:16 AM
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9. so....
is the "eye of fatima" the eye in the "hand of fatima"?

thanks :)
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:18 AM
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11. Yes, afaik
eom
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:05 AM
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7. Blue wards off the devil
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 09:11 AM by Dufaeth
According to a book I have from 1925 about Palestine: The Jews, Muslims and Christians all used the hand in their homes and shops. The Jews and Christians called it the hand of God and the Muslims called it Fatima's Hand.
The eye is blue because of the Devil's aversion to the color.


edit:

I suspect that is an element retained from Zoroastrianism.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:15 AM
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8. So, can anyone show me the "eye of fatima"? or tell me what it is?
i am aware of all the other "things o' fatima", but i would like specifi information about the "eye of fatima".
what is it?

thanks again
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:18 AM
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10. From wikipedia:
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 09:46 AM
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12. again, thanks for the reply
but this does not describe what the "eye of fatima" is.
i understand what the "hand of fatima" is.

thanks
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:15 AM
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13. I was responding to the "show me" part
I thought you were looking for a pic. :) As I understand it, the eye represents either the omniscience of God (and the hand, Omnipotence) or a blocking of the evil eye through the use of a counterpart that is blue. Beyond that I have no idea. :)
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:17 AM
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14. ok thanks alot!
thanks for the reply and explanation, i really appreciate it!

thank you.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:17 AM
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15. Go down to the bottom of the page of this link
http://www.answers.com/topic/evil-eye

and read the wikipedia entry in it's entirety. I believe that will best answer your question. The Hand of Fatima and the Eye of Fatima are inexorably linked.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:40 AM
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16. thank you very much
:hi:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:41 AM
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17. Is that a dick with legs?
:wtf: :D
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:05 AM
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18. Actually,
yes it is. :hi:
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