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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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The (Un)OFFICIAL STRAW MAN Thread! Woot :D
First, go here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Then, feel free to the "staw man" thread. Really we'll make it the Logical Fallacy thread! Here are the rules:

1. Every post made on this thread must take the form of some formal logical fallacy. For those of you who don't know much about logical fallacies, I refer you here:
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/index.htm

So, as you probably now, some kind of propositional claim is needed to start things off....

I assert that Logical fallacies are very destructive to constructive argumentation.

Have fun. :D
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:19 PM
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1. Perhaps we need "Logic" Smiles
We need Strawman Smiley!
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:21 PM
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2. Slippery Slope Demonstration
Propositions:

George W. Bush is from a right wing southern state.

George W. Bush is the son of a president and the grandson of a U.S. Senator.

George W. Bush was owner of a failed oil company that lost all its investors' money.

George W. Bush was in the Air Guard, then deserted.

George W. Bush has a Harvard MBA and was in Skull and Bones at Yale.

George W. Bush should be elected President of the United States.

(I'd say "re-elected" but that assumes Bush was "elected" the first time."
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:22 PM
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3. Ah,
You just want to stifle debate with all your talk of logical fallacies. ;-)
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Kusala Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:23 PM
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4. I would, but you are just a random poster,
and not an expert, in straw man strategies and logical fallacies.
And since you cannot prove I'm not an expert, you have no credibility.

Therefore, you alcoholic crackdealer, I'll ignore your obviously biased post.

Besides, tin men are obviously more believable.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:35 PM
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9. HAHAHHAAHHAHA
That was awesome.

You're local alcholic crackdealer. :)
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tmasseyx Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:24 PM
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5. Fun with consequents
Selwynn says:

I assert that Logical fallacies are very destructive to constructive argumentation.

I reply:

Rush Limbaugh is very descructive to construnctive argumentation.
Q.E.D. Rush Limbaugh is a logical fallacy.

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:43 PM
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12. How about this:
If Rush is an idiot, then Republicans are wrong.
But Rush is not an idiot,
Therefore, Republicans are not wrong.

(a fallacy on so many different levels hahhahaa)
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:27 PM
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6. You better take that back or I'll pound you.
argumentum ad baculum
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:29 PM
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7. Selwynn is trying to prove his/her intellectual superiority
Selwynn thinks we are all too stupid to carry on a rational, logical debate.

I must ask, is Selwynn actually a Freeper troll here to disrupt DU, or just an obnoxious pseudo-intellectual trying to make us all feel inferior?
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:32 PM
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8. Ad Hominem
Another demonstration:

Republicans suck.

Now construction a counterargument.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:41 PM
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11. It is true that all DUers always make flawless rational arguments.
:D
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:53 PM
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15. So you are really saying none of us are real DUers
It figures.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:58 PM
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16. Hahahahahhahaha
nice. :yourock:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:40 PM
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10. My Hoover (vacuum cleaner) sucks,
Republicans suck.
Therefore Hoover is a Repuublican.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:47 PM
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13. If logical fallacicies are destructive,
then illogical fallacies must be constructive.

Therefore, I submit that:

"The space program does not exist. We never landed on the moon"

MUST lead to constructive argument.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:50 PM
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14. ROFL
You're killing me!
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