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MHalblaub Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:14 PM
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Gay disgusted - test for homosexual penguins
The following source is the best English I got a the moment.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15164391&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=p-p-p-pick-up-a-penguin--duckie-name_page.html


GAY penguins are being tempted into mating with sexy Swedish females.

Zookeepers were perplexed when their five pairs of Humboldt penguins didn't produce any offspring after years of trying.

But DNA tests found three of the couples at Bremerhaven Zoo, Bremen, Germany, were homosexual. One pair even adopted a stone as an 'egg'.

Zoo director Heike Kueck said it was difficult to tell the sex of the seabirds just by looking at them.

The zoo flew in the four females from Sweden despite earlier experiments finding gay couples hard to split up.

<snip>

The above excerpt is from dailyrecord.co.uk and sometimes not very close to the article in "Der Spiegel". The DNA tests just prove that the penguins are male and not gay. Also no earlier tests were made to split them up. Results are expected for next January.

2-11-2005
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/erde/0,1518,341269,00.html


I think it's worth keeping an eye on the story.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:18 PM
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1. Maybe Some Fundamentalist Swedes
Can give them alternating shock therapy/bible witnessing and turn them into "ex-gay" penguins.

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:19 PM
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2. Here's a better link
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MHalblaub Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:26 PM
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11. Your link has problems with translation.
According to my German source "Der Spiegel" (search for "Inside 9-11" as reference) this statement is wrong:

"Attempts by a Germany zoo to "convert its gay penguins to heterosexuality have failed the zoo's director said Friday."

The penguins start changing their mates during spring.
"We just wait what will happen. Results are expected for January next year." said the director of the zoo Mrs Heike Kück.

The attempt to convert them was also denied. The Zoo gets from Swedish Zoo at Kolmarden not only 4 female penguins. They get also 2 Swedish male penguins as backup.

The whole project is aimed for conservation of the species. The Humboldt penguins are getting more and more rare at their natural environment around Chile and Peru.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:24 PM
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3. About these penguins....
...they don't want to marry, do they?

;)

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:25 PM
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4. and I bet their "rock-babies" are very well behaved
and easy to care for :)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:28 AM
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35. * One pair even adopted a stone as an 'egg' *
Isn't that how George and Barbara Bush got their little George?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:28 PM
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5. Penguin love
They shouldn't try to change these penguins.

Some male penguins prefer males. Some prefer females. It's all very simple.

It appears that sexuality, is a very "black and white" issue for these penguins.

...sorry, couldn't resist. :)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:27 PM
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12. I think they are simply giving them a choice. They are not
forcing them to pick a female over a male, unless they want too. Choice is a good thing.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:44 PM
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6. Gay Penguins? No Wonder They're So Well Dressed
who is the DU'er who has the signature graphic of one penguin slapping the other into an ice hole?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:30 PM
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13. The Daily Show segment on Gay Penguins
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:59 PM
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21. I don't recall who first put the penguin gif but I saved it and just now
sent it over to my little webspace...
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:49 AM
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27. Bwahahahahaha
That Penguin is hilarious. Too f-in funny
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:00 PM
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7. Cold Shoulder for Swedish Seductresses
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 10:06 PM by Dirk39
Hello from Germany! I knew this story would make it to DU!

"Cold Shoulder for Swedish Seductresses

No mixed-sex frolicking on the rocks at Bremerhaven zoo



Trying to get three gay penguin couples back on the straight and narrow, zoo officials in the northern German town of Bremerhaven hoped Swedish penguin ladies would do the trick. So far, there's been no success.



The zoo came up with the ingenious idea of trying to convert the feathered queens by flying in some exotic birds from Scandinavia. But thus far, the boys haven't exactly been fighting for a taste of the action. On the contrary, they have shown their suitors the cold shoulder.



"The relationships were obviously too serious," zoo director Heike Kück said of the same sex penguin couples who seem to prefer sitting on stones, which serve as a replacement for the eggs they will never be able to lay, to flapping about over the evidently superfluous seductresses.



But the zoo, which advertises itself with the slogan "encounters of a special kind," isn't planning to give up too easily. Humboldt penguins are considered an endangered species, which makes it all the more important that those in captivity do the decent thing and reproduce. The zoo is planning to wait until spring 2006 to see if their international match-making efforts spawn results.



However, with Humboldt penguins renowned for their gay persuasion, the odds are not stacked in favour of success. But just in case the girls really can't pull of the conversion act, the zoo in Sweden has sent a couple of its own males to save the ladies from out and out sexual frustration.

DW staff (tkw)"

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1484083,00.html

There's even a kind of poll:

"Do you think gay animals should be converted?
Please include your name and country in your answer"

Please believe me: the zoo has no problems with gay penguins at all:
but who would visit a zoo that has nothing more to offer than stones?
And as everybody can see: they're flying in more males, so every perversion and every kind of sex, these penguins can think of, will take place in that zoo in northern germany, just a few miles away from where I'm sitting now.

On Edit: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR! Scheiss Puritaner!
Dirk
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:54 AM
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28. I could not find the poll on the Penguins
I voted for Germany to have a seat at the UN Security Council, as it think it deserves

If I could, I would vote to let the Penguins do what they wanted.
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Boswells_Johnson Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:05 PM
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8. The number of bi-sexual penguins would effect the study
and since they can't ask the penguins, their stats will be faulty.:)
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:06 PM
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9. We must protect our children from these gay penguins
:bounce:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:55 AM
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29. It is part of the Homosexual Agenda
to recruit children through cute gay animals. (and Spongebob)
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LinuxInsurgent Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:13 PM
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10. so...is this conclusive evidence that homosexuality is genetic?
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 10:13 PM by LinuxInsurgent
I mean...it's not like the penguins ACTIVELY CHOSE an ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE...or is that gonna be the Christian Taliban argument?

Perhaps it's time for the Christian Taliban in the U.S. to entertain the idea that homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism, and pansexuality are genetic traits.
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MHalblaub Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:38 PM
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16. No they don't!
German TV is broadcasting SpongeBob!
A rumor says the keepers at the zoo like to watch it and penguins were able to watch it too!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:40 PM
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17. Do the transsexual penguins still wear tuxedos?n/t
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MHalblaub Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:53 PM
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20. That's really not on the agenda.
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 11:16 PM by MHalblaub
There is no influence through the bad MSM, especially MTV, liberals or something like that. The only influence is the zoo situation and 8 male penguins sharing 2 female.

What can we conclude some of the six male ones having sex with the Swedish ladies? A genetic social behavior to compensate the lack of the "proper" mate?

*** missspellings
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:32 PM
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14. It's time fur the bible readin! n/t
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BigMatto Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:38 PM
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15. Doesn't this ruin the argument that...
...being gay isn't "natural"?

I can't count how many times people have denied that homosexuality exists anywhere else besides humans. Now they find gay penguins and try to turn them straight... what a waste of time and money.
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Coloradan4Truth Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:59 PM
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22. Hi BigMatto...
I saw information about this book on gay animals posted a while back. I was very happy to see that scientific investigation has finally tackled this topic. Yes, it would seem to ruin the argument.

the book:
"Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity," 768 pages about exactly what goes on at "South Park's" Big Gay Al's Big Gay Animal Sanctuary. The first section discusses animal sexuality in its many forms and the ways biologists have tried to explain it away. The second section, "A Wondrous Bestiary," describes unconventional sexuality in nearly 200 mammals and birds -- orangutans, whales, warthogs, fruit bats, chaffinches.

Bagemihl's dry style is obedient to the precepts of scientific writing. He explains why animals can be called homosexual or bisexual, but not gay, lesbian or queer, and he follows the rules -- though "homosexual" frightens some who prefer terms like male-only social interactions, multifemale associations, unisexuality, isosexuality or intrasexuality.


http://www.salon.com/it/feature/1999/03/cov_15featurea.html
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BigMatto Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:08 PM
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23. Is it a good read?
I must admit, reading scientific jargon puts me to sleep. Even if i am interested in the topic, I can't stay awake if it's written like a Vulcan would write it.
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Coloradan4Truth Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:21 PM
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24. LOL - I hear you. I haven't read it yet...
it is $26.00 and I've been busy reading textbooks for university. I hope to read it over the summer.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:56 AM
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30. Welcome to DU
I hope you enjoy it here
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:08 AM
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33. I did hear about these pervert obscene non-christian animals...
about 20 years ago! And I have to share the country, I live in, with these obscene penguins since my birth - and masturbating apes anyway.
Really: I did read an article in a german science-magazine about 20 years ago about plenty of gay animals...
Many "scientists" did know this for long, but: these "news" were not suitable for a broader audience...

This is really funny: During the Thatcher and Reagan-Era, Psychology and Social-Science were replaced with the all-explaining natural-science and if it doesn't help: Religion - what a nice couple! I still prefer gay Pinguins.

But now, at a second look, it reveals that whenever "natural-science" did distort their moral-idioty, the scientists had to remain silent.

Let's wait a few stupid years more and the only animals left, that still believe in the "survival of the fittest" and the "free market" are human beings, while even the penguins have become hmmmm:
Socialists (at least they will have universal healthcare).

Becoming animal,
Dirk







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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:41 PM
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18. free the gay penguins! let them love each other!
bastard zookeepers! lol
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:48 PM
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19. They already did!
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 10:49 PM by Dirk39
"However, with Humboldt penguins renowned for their gay persuasion, the odds are not stacked in favour of success. But just in case the girls really can't pull of the conversion act, the zoo in Sweden has sent a couple of its own males to save the ladies from out and out sexual frustration."
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1484083,00.html

Stop bashing Germany for discriminating gay penguins!

Every kind of sexual activity and relationship(s), these penguins can ever think of, will take place in that zoo in Bremerhaven.

Take a look at these penguins from Bremerhaven:


Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:47 PM
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25. awww, cant you feel the love tonight?
just in time for valentines day! Thanks, zookeepers!
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:46 AM
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26. I can feel it...
Make love, not Lynndie England!
Let us all become penguins!
It's cold anyway, Linux is better than windows, and pervert pinguins using Linux and getting married might really force Bush and Co. to surrender.

Living 30 miles away from that pervert Zoo in Bremerhaven and it's Valentine's day anyway,
Dirk
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:01 AM
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32. Haha
I think that Gay penguins aren't going to stop the fundies in the Deep South
These people are weird...I am lucky they aren't common in my area (Maryland, near Washington DC)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:59 AM
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31. We're not bashing Germany
I think some people were upset because they thought the Penguins were going to be split up.


But I am glad the Penguins found love....:hi:
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:19 AM
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34. They will never be split up!
"Her:
They say our love won’t pay the rent
Before it’s earned, our money’s all been spent

Him:
I guess that’s so, we don’t have a pot
But at least I’m sure of all the things we got

Both:
Babe, I got you babe, I got you babe"


Sorry, it's Him: / Him:

I didn't want to offend any gay or penguin or gay or heterosexual penguin or human being.

Just make love, not war!

Dirk

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