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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:34 PM
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Chuck D picks 11 Hip-Hop albums that no one can do without.
From THE NEW BOOK OF ROCK LISTS by Dave Marsh & James Bernard (published in 1994):

1. RAISING HELL - Run-D.M.C. (1986)
2. DEATH CERTIFICATE - Ice Cube (1991)
3. THE MESSAGE - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five (1982)
4. MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT - L.L. Cool J (1991)
5. CRIMINAL MINDED - Boogie Down Productions (1987)
6. PAID IN FULL - Eric B & Rakim (1987)
7. NAUGHTY BY NATURE - Naughty By Nature (1991)
8. STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON - N.W.A. (1989)
9. BACK IN BLACK - Whodini (1986)
10. LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR.... - Big Daddy Kane (1993)
11. POWER - Ice-T (1988)
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:36 PM
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1. Funny, I seem to be doing just fine without ANY "hip-hop" in my collection
n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:36 PM
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3. I used to be like that
free your mind..........
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:39 PM
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9. You know, if it's not your thing, no need to bash it.
Just don't click on the thread. Your condescension isn't welcome.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:40 PM
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10. thanks, Zhade
spot on.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:43 PM
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15. It just seemed rude to jump on and intimate that they're "above" hip-hop.
Frankly, it's elitist and snobbish, and lead me to wonder if they've ever actually listened to any.

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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:46 PM
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24. They're the "intellectual heirs" of previous generations of jerk-offs...
...who considered "Negro music" vulgar and primitive. Their great-grandparents hated jazz, their grandparents hated R&B (later called rock 'n' roll), their parents hated disco, and they themselves hate rap.

As the Dead Kennedys put it: "Make the same old mistakes again and again/Chickenshit conformist like your parents."
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:11 PM
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35. I don't know if that's a fair comparison...
I like some blues, some Jazz, some R&B... in fact, I like most of what I hear.

Hip-Hop/Rap on the otherhand, I dislike most of what I hear. It's just a genre which some people may not like, aurally. There are excdeptional rap albums, though, and I have a few (some of what's in Chuck D's list, coincidentally). But, generally, most of what I hear doesn't move me at all.

I think the fact that some people don't like "most" rap/hip-hop is because it's just such a profitble genre, that the market is flooded with tons of it, including some which is, even you must admit, just manufactured commercial crap (draw a parallel with post-Beatles Englad, or post-Nirvana Seattle.... look at all the shit knock-off bands those groups inspired).

To paraphrase from more of "Chickenshit Conformist"...

"When the thugs form bands, look who gets record deals with (LA/NY Hip-Hop) labels looking to scam, who find the most racist, queer-bashing bands they can find, to make a buck revving kids up for (self-destruction)..."

I don't know if it's accurate to state that someone doesn't like hip-hop/rap because of race issues.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:41 PM
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12. Then stay the fuck out of my thread!
:grr:
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:44 PM
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18. actually, you have hip hop you just don't know it. sorry.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:57 PM
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29. Rose
if you can get a copy of THE MESSAGE - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, please listen to it.

It will either make you very angry or make you cry, but you won't look at hip hop the same way again.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:14 PM
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38. Thank you for your predicted knee-jerk replies: FYI I like some hip-hop...
...and mourn the fact that it has become tainted with the violent and crassly sexual messages over the years.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:36 PM
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2. what? no "Chronic"?????
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:37 PM
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4. How are you feeling today?
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:42 PM
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14. Better, thanks.
Still kinda tired, but at least now I can eat without feeling poisoned. I got a fill-in for my radio show tonight and am just going to stay home for the rest of the weekend.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:45 PM
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21. Good idea. Be gentle on your stomach for a couple of days.
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:38 PM
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5. Chuck D
is very modest. Public Enemy was the best of the bunch IMO.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:38 PM
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6. No Roots? Mos Def? Talib Kwali? nt
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:21 PM
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39. Blackstar will be considered one of the best ever...eventually.

nt.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:38 PM
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7. Hip-Hop - - Noise Pollution On Wheels
I have a running war with the youth in my neighborhood.

I have lost count of all the noise complaints that I have filed with the local police.

Now, every time one of these cars stops in the neighborhood, I photograph the license plate and VIN. This information is forwarded to the police and neighborhood association.

It has helped cut down on the loud rap music significantly.

I say death to rap music in public places!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:41 PM
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13. Rap and Hip-Hop are two entirely different things.
I agree about most modern rap - it's misogynistic, self-aggrandizing junk. And rude neighbors are rude neighbors, regardless of their musical preference. It's just as irritating to be woken up by music I like as music I don't.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:44 PM
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19. Loud Repetitive Bass Is The Biggest Enemy To Late Sleeping Ever Invented
eom
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:05 PM
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34. No arguments there!
NT!

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:44 PM
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17. Any loud music in public is unnecessary
Perhaps you shouldn't single out hip hop! In some neighborhoods, that music is heavy metal; in some it's ranchero. Perhaps it's just better to complain about noise disturbances generally instead of rap music specifically.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:46 PM
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23. If Rap And Hip-Hop Be What Is Waking Me Up Then That What It Be
eom
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:48 PM
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25. How's that Dennis the Menace doing, Mr Wilson?
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:51 PM
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27. Just Fine - You Will Not Meet A More Progressive Mr. Wilson Anywhere
Except where it concerns loud Rap and Hip-Hop played in public.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:46 PM
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22. nah, but the kids should respect you and drop the volume so that
it doesn't disturb you.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:50 PM
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26. Well Respect Does Not Enter Into The Equation With These Kids
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 02:55 PM by mhr
They believe they are entitled to dash through the neighborhood without a care as their 15" sub-woofers beat out unmusical bass.

That is until they meet the enforcer. I will not tolerate it and we have had several interesting standoffs.

I am this big, mangy, ugly white guy that looks like an old, mean cuss.

They think twice about their options.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:55 PM
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28. funny, what's a mean cuss. but see they've help you with one
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 02:57 PM by okieinpain
myself. you have to hold your ground with them. I would like to make one suggestion that seems to help me a lot with them.

try to reason with them instead of just threatening, if you keep reminding them that you have rights, and what they are doing is not showing respect to others. some of them will get it and cut you some slack.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:58 PM
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30. I Design Loudspeakers - I Already Knew What A 15" Driver Was
I also know what real bass sounds like - not the artificially synthed crap that passes for music in Rap and Hip-Hop.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:02 PM
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32. well see it's your fault.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:03 PM
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33. Yeah Right!
eom
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katusha Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:38 PM
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8. he's being modest
there are a couple of public enemy albums that should be included in that too.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:40 PM
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11. Chronic, Nation of Millions, Licensed to Ill...?
DoggyStyle, Midnight Marauders, Marshal Mathers....?
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:43 PM
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16. Did you notice when Chuck D made that list? In 1994.
Who'd ever heard of Marshall Mathers in 1994? :eyes:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:44 PM
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20. Ha! I missed the date
Oh well.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:59 PM
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31. Get rid of #4 and replace it with "The Chronic"
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:23 PM
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36. I can
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:27 PM
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37. WILL YOU GODDAMNED RAP-HATERS KINDLY STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD?!
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 03:54 PM by NightTrain
Thank you!!!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:51 PM
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43. maybe educating them
might be more useful than castigating them, NT. I think the stereotypes about this type of music would benefit from information. Although I like dub, early rap and cross-over type hip-hop, I myself finally had to admit that there was more to Eminem than met the eye, after I heard a little of it. The sexist, violent stuff is hard to take at times, but not all of it is like that, and I suppose some of it is descriptive of how those rappers see our culture as a whole.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:25 PM
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40. I respectfully disagree with Mama Said Knock You Out

That wasn't even LL's best one. Walking With A Panter was a lot better.

I'd take that one out and put in Nas's Illmatic.

Then I'd take out Back in Black, and put in Blackstar.



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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:39 PM
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41. "Raising Hell" was the first tape I ever owned
I remember shouting the lyrics on the playground in sixth grade with my friends.

Yeah, we were cool. :eyes:
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:39 PM
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42. Aint No Half Steppin...
Wasn't on the list? Nor White Lines?
I love oldies but goodies rappin scratchin hip-hop!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:17 AM
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44. Chuck is right
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