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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:21 PM
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Do you find yourself often pissed of when people are insenstive?
We were watching the movie Cry Freedom today which is about Aparteid and stars Kevin Kline and Denzel Washington. Great movie, I first saw it as a Sophomore and it taught me a lot about Aparteid and it really saddened me because of a lot of things. So we're watching the movie today, and the end credits show a list of suspicious deaths of Blacks who opposed the Afrikanner regime, and the last one they name is only 4 months before my birth. Then we discussed the movie as we're bound to do and when my teacher tried to explain to us just how lucky we are, which we are in my part of the country, there were a couple people being asses about it. I know it's something I can't control but damnit when you see innocent kids being shot down on screen, you should be aware of the madness that was Aparteid.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:22 PM
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1. I love that film!
:hi:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 PM
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2. It made me wanna cry
Its a beautiful film, it taught me a lot about aparteid which I as a sophomore did not know much about. Really says a lot about my sophomore history teacher, a former football player and a football coach at the time, it really moved me a lot, it was just so damn sad seeing all those poor kids get shot by those damn bastards.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 PM
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4. I have seen that film dozens of times
and yes, I remember seeing films in HS and having some people be jerks.

It's annoying.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:24 PM
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3. Yes, I do
I'm one of the older law student critters at my school, and I hate it when my younger comrades make stupid, insensitive remarks, usually about the poor. "He jests at scars that never felt a wound."
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:25 PM
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6. I hate when people look down on the poor too
It sickens me even though I am well off, I do know through my research on Appalachia that there are some parts of this country that live an almost third world life, it's sad as anything.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:25 PM
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5. You're right on all counts, John, and apartheid is one of --
-- the huge transgressions.

Truth be told I also get angry with myself when I use the wrong words at the wrong time. "Mistakes of attention," is how one writer put it.

Reagan supported the Apartheid government and a lot of senators shouted him down on it -- including, to my shock -- Republican Richard Lugar.

----
A couple weeks ago you said you had seen and remembered INHERIT THE WIND. Tonight you report watching CRY FREEDOM.

I TOLD you that you were one of the good guys, John.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:27 PM
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7. Reagan, the right wing hero supported aparteid? I am not surprised at all
I know Cheney did because I know of Edwards citing his vote against freeing Mandela from prison. What happened in South Africa to me reminds me of the struggles blacks faced in this country, what Catholics faced in Northern Ireland, etc.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:29 PM
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8. In the 80s
many recording artists got together to protest "Sun City", i.e., there were other recording stars who would perform at the Sun City Resort, which was aparteid.

I think it was called "I'm not gonna play Sun City."

Something like that.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:31 PM
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9. Interesting
You know I think I read that movie came out originally in late November 1987, I was born in July of that year so I am sure there were dissidents killed around that time. I just don't know how people can be so damned insensitive honestly.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:34 PM
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11. Some info...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 11:35 PM by XanaDUer


The Sun City resort complex, located in Bophuthatswana, attracted international performers. But, despite being in an area designated for Africans, few blacks could afford to visit. Because of it prominence, Sun City became a focus of the cultural boycott of South Africa. The cultural boycott urged artists not to go perform in South Africa. In 1985 Little Steven Van Zandt co-founded Artists United Against Apartheid (AUAA). That same year AAUA released an album SUN CITY produced by Little Steven and Arthur Baker featuring some 50 artists. The lyrics include the phase "I ain't gonna play Sun City." There was also an award winning video. Monies raised from this album went through The Africa Fund to education for South African exiles, political prisoners inside South Africa and anti-apartheid education in the U.S. Among those receiving money as a result were the Solomon Mahlangu Freedom College run by the ANC in Tanzania which received $220,000; the South African Council of Churches which received $160,000 to aid political prisoners and their families; and TransAfrica and the American Committee on Africa which split $238,000 for anti-apartheid educational work in the United States. You can learn more about the Sun City project at Little Steven's Web site. (Note: Little Steven has added acting to his career with the role of Silvio Dante on the television hit The Sopranos.)

http://richardknight.homestead.com/bophuthatswana.html


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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:34 PM
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12. wow thanks for the info
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:33 PM
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10. Yes. I'm a Democrat in large part because I watched --
-- Robert Kennedy move fluidly into crowds of black voters, welcoming their outstretched hands. I will never forget the look on his face as long as I live -- it was the look of intelligent compassion and welcome and not exploitation.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:35 PM
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13. RFK's ripple of hope quote which always moved me was made in
South Africa in the 60's. I was always a democrat but films like this solidfied my beliefs.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:38 PM
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14. Yes. A powerful quotation.
People on DU believe you know what you're doin', John.

And I think they're right.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:39 PM
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15. Interestingly enough, I am working on my paper for comm service
that I did for government class.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:41 PM
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16. Well I don't know if it will help, but several of us --
-- confer maximum good vibes your way for a good result.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:42 PM
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17. Yeah its appreciated
I can't wait for tommorow, the semester finally ends and I get to start anew.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:51 PM
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18. Then maybe slip down to the ticket outlet and --
-- pick up some tix for an early Orioles game.

When the Reds traded Frank Robinson to Baltimore for Milt Pappas, I could hardly believe it. The Orioles have been my favorite American League team since then.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:53 PM
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19. That would be neat
I don't live near Baltimore though, and I am gonna be busy in April, I am gonna try to go to a summer game this summer though.
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