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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:57 AM
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i dare someone to post this in GD:
John Kerry is the greatest candidate the Democrats have ever fielded.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:58 AM
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1. I am afraid to go there but I really do like Kerry a lot
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 01:59 AM by JohnKleeb
Wait ya tellin me, that they're giving Kerry shit even though he's been critical of Rice.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:59 AM
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3. so do i, but you'd be insane to post that
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. of course
I hate them trying to make people liek me ashamed to like Kerry.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:58 AM
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2. Why must you turn this into a house of LIES !!!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:59 AM
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4. pssh
Why don't you save yourself the trouble and just dip me in BBQ sauce and toss me to a pack of starving wolves, eh? It'd be a lot cleaner.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. Hey Gen
Now I get to talk to you here. I like John Kerry, but I get into enough fights.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #10
18. Hey Dave-
A lot of people like JK. I would love to see him run again.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. I would like it too
He's a good guy, and I really am glad he's been hard on Condi, kudos to Boxer too.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. Clark or Warner for me
but I'm proud of John Kerry and I get mad at people for ripping him.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. Warner is good, he's my governor
We got a nice sucessor lined up too, Tim Kaine will be the next and a great governor of Virginia. I am proud of Kerry too, he's done a lot for people like me who are in special ed as Ive learned lately.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:08 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Kerry
did a lot for all of us.

Do you have a learning disability? I overcame one myself.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #25
28. Yes, I do
Yeah he's great all around on the issues, one of the reasons why I admrie him.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #28
34. what kind if you don't mind me asking?
You can pm me if you like.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. ahh its a general one
I have ADD I know for a fact. I struggle more so with the maths and sciences. Its really interesting too, I taught myself how to read and knew all the presidents by age 5.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #36
41. pretty similar to me
I had a fine motor skill and visual perception problem. It basically affected my handwriting and ability to line up columns doing math. I was always better at history and other social studies. Keep working hard and you'll still do great.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. yes, fine motor skills
and I have bad handwriting. Yep, I am great at history and other social studies.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:21 AM
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46. Yeah, you'll be just fine
No one can read my handwriting. But that's okay. I got to type my exams in college. Everything worked out well. Now I own my own political consulting firm.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:21 AM
Response to Reply #46
48. Typing really has helped me out big time.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #22
27. Some of the anger is understandable
I personally was screaming at him (when I wasn't crying) the morning he conceded for being a quitter- but now...I almost understand. There's something tragic about this election in how the truly noble and honorable man was so easily shat upon by an immoral, greedy, arrogant, asshole.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:11 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. If Kerry thought he could win
he wouldn't have conceded. He wanted to win more than anything. He is such a good man. I really feel for him. I was proud to support him.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #29
35. and he's an Eagle
Nothing was cooler than meeting him many times over the course of the election and having him recognize my "Boston College Superfan" shirt.
He would've been a great president. It would've been hard for him to steer this country back around, but he certainly couldn't have hurt it.
It's going to take decades to undue the damage this administration will have inflicted upon the world in 8 years.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. Thats so cool
He's a great guy, one of the reasons why I left GD is because I hated seeing him being pooped on.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #35
45. that is so true
but I'm not giving up. And we won't get there by running people out of the party. I'm back at work trying to get people elected.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:21 AM
Response to Reply #45
47. I am so excited about casting my first vote for Tim Kaine
in November. Unfortunely that asshole Kilgore is attacking Kaine for get this his religious based opposition to the death penalty, ahh this is why I am a proud Catholic, Tim's Catholic and has helped out the unfortunate a lot and Jerry Kilgore is your typical fundie asshole.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #47
51. Kaine is a good candidate
but that stuff could hurt him. Virginia is still a Republican state. But Kilgore has other issues. Kaine could very well win. I need to get some clients in Virginia.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:28 AM
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53. Yes it could sadly
We execute the most people per captia and are second after Texas in excutions. Kilgore just pisses me off.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #53
55. there are rumors about Kilgore
that could hurt him, but dems probably wouldn't use these rumors.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #55
56. I think Ive heard those
that he's gay?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #56
57. exactly
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:33 AM
Response to Reply #57
58. I thought I heard that
He's old type Henrico blood. Not sure where Kaine is from originally. We need someone to run against Allen in 2006.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #58
60. I don't think Allen is beatable
maybe Don Beyer will give it a go.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:37 AM
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61. There's rumors Warner may run against him
but you know how presidential politics are now, STAY AWAY FROM THE SENATE. Yeah Beyer would be the best shot I think. It can't sadly and this will piss the pissmongrels in GD off but it can't be a really big liberal, sure they'll do ok here in Northern Virginia but they will not do good in the western parts of the state which are breachable if we run the right candidate.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:38 AM
Response to Reply #61
62. Warner
should be getting his Presidential campaign going. He shouldn't run for that seat. There was a military woman that almost ran against John Warner. I think her name was Kennedy. She was the highest ranking woman in the military. She might be a decent candidate.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:40 AM
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64. Lt General Claudia Kennedy, yes, she was an early backer of Kerry
I believe. John Warner will be there until he retires unless he pisses off the republicans like he did when he refused to endorse North, that earned him some of my respect.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:41 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. Yes
that's her. John Warner is a decent guy for a Republican. Claudia Kennedy would be a good candidate against Allen.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. Yeah I don't know what my poly sci class republicans think of him
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 02:42 AM by JohnKleeb
I know one of them can't stand Chuck Hagel who Ive met who to me was a decent guy who promised to vote against the gay marriage ban if it came up.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:44 AM
Response to Reply #66
68. Hagel
is in the maverick model as well. I need to get some sleep. Got to do some work tomorrow. Actually today.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:45 AM
Response to Reply #68
71. night, yes hes a maverick and they hate him
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. Its understandable somewhat I guess
but I know damn well, the ones leading the shit against him right now even though I am not there are the same people who called him Bushlite in the primaries. You want bushlite? this is bushlite!

God look at that hair man.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:01 AM
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6. My prediction:


:scared:
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. haha, you may be true
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. no, no my friend, this
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #9
16. You may be more accurate in terms of size and scale...
...but mine has COLOR!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:01 AM
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7. I think you'd be properly flamed. He's no FDR
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. no shit
i just want to see them explode.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. of course
so many nominees over the years, it takes a special one to be the best of all those. I want to see em explode too.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:02 AM
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12. lol
funny. What do I get if I do it?
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. my utmost respect
and a george foreman grill
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. put in a free frozen frogurt
:).
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. sure! you bet!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
19. I don't really do "novelty grills" as Hank Hill would say
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #19
23. fine, how about this:


and this:


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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:09 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. Ok
Babe magnet cars will do the trick
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. great! now get to it, soldier!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. Here you go
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3007193

Will I regret this in the morning? Probably. I'll have to sleep in until the afternoon.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #32
39. awsome! here are the keys!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:13 AM
Response to Reply #30
33. oh yeah and Rad
you will definely get a lounge medal for this.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #12
20. Hold out for the big screen HD TV
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:16 AM
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38. ok we got another lounge medal
lounge medal to radical activist, good job man.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:17 AM
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woohoo
I'll wear it on my uniform at all times!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:17 AM
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42. yep you should be honored dude
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. yes, i second that!
great job!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #40
43. you got one yourself for that daring GD raid a while back
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:22 AM
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49. ah HA!
I read that when it was first posted without any responses and thought...this guys out looking for a fight, I'll get some popcorn and check back in a few. Then I went back and saw responses and realized he was put up to it.

Good one.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:23 AM
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50. I don't think you'll have THAT much of a problem.
Seriously, Kerry has a lot of supporters, more since he got back from Europe.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #50
52. thats good to know
Kerry did great overseas IMO. Ive been out of GD for a while and since before the Kerry trip to europe.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:29 AM
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54. Dang it...
I would have done it for just the frozen yogurt.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #54
59. Nice avatar
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 02:34 AM by Radical Activist
I was in Texas myself and hung out with a bunch of lone star Dems recently.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #59
63. Thank you
I hope your stay in our infamous state was a pleasant one. If nothing else our Dem's here do tend to run in packs. :)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:44 AM
Response to Reply #63
69. I did have a good time
I was in a small college town. Although I have to say that Lone Star beer, the "national" beer of Texas, was crap. But for $1 a bottle I guess you can't expect much.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:56 AM
Response to Reply #69
78. You drank that stuff?
I hope you washed your mouth out with something palatable afterwords. :)

Someone was pulling your leg. We've unofficially adopted Shiner Bach years ago. You were not in Austin I am guessing. :eyes:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #78
79. The bartender did give me a warning
she made no claim that it was good, and even asked if I wanted to finish. I wanted to try it for the novelty though. It says right on the bottle that it is the "national" beer of Texas, which I found mildly amusing. The rest of the time I had Fat Tire, which I missed a lot because you can't get it in Chicago.

No, I wasn't in Austin, but I'm going there next time I'm in texas in Feb.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:10 AM
Response to Reply #79
81. I'm glad you were at least warned...
Fat Tire is good... Lone Star is swill. :)

Shiner Bock is the official beer of Austin. You'll like Austin it great. A blue heart beating in our red state. :)

Are you planning any DU meet-up's while your in Austin?

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:12 AM
Response to Reply #81
82. I don't have any planned
but that isn't a bad idea.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #82
84. Post the date on the Texas board
We'll try and see how many Austin area people we can get together. :)
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:42 AM
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67. haha! the flaming has commenced!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:44 AM
Response to Reply #67
70. hah really, this is a good thread
I am glad, I like Kerry. I hope he continues to prove the naysayers wrong.
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:45 AM
Response to Reply #70
72. i was talking about the GD thread
but it has def happened in this one too, ironically.

i hope he comes back and runs again actually.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #67
74. The fact that it is so clearly a joke
as revealed by the replies don't seem to matter to some people. Posting before reading or thinking is pretty standard.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. obviously
hell I really like Kerry a lot but he's not the greatest of all time. I am surprised IGNORED hasn't posted yet, :wtf: ha.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:45 AM
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73. nm you guys are just that cool
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 02:48 AM by JohnKleeb
That was awesome!
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pres2032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:46 AM
Response to Reply #73
75. goodnight!
same time, same bat channel tomorrow?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #75
76. ahh what the hell, I got enough time, I'll be here for a few more mins
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:06 AM
Response to Reply #76
80. Silly Question.......
........what's GD?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:13 AM
Response to Reply #80
83. General Discussion
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #80
85. Welcom to DU
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