Jenna and Barbara...

[Beer Snob-50]

just on unfiltered. religious groups very very upset that these young ladies will dress like tramps!!!! please opine!

[Ganja Ninja]

They don't just dress like tramps. They are tramps! n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. religious groups and DU should let women choose

wtf they want to wear.

its really none of anyone elses business

[Feathered Fish]

3. Thank you

Who cares what they wear? It's their dad who I have the beef with.

[Beer Snob-50]

5. but do they dress like tramps?

that is the question my dear lionesspriyanka

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. do you know any tramps that can afford the clothes they wear?

[BlueEyedSon]

8. Paris Hilton?

[Beer Snob-50]

18. lionesspriyanka????

just joking....

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. sorry coronation is making LP humorless!

[Beer Snob-50]

21. sorry.....

:grouphug:

[BlueEyedSon]

7. Come on, any chance we lefties have to rip the RW hypocrisy is fair.

Remember, elections aren't won on competence, intelligence, statesmanship, policy and articulateness... but on whether you & your family are tramps!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. yes sexism is perfectly ok, so long as we do it!

:eyes:

[BlueEyedSon]

10. Bill Clinton was branded a "tramp"... my comment was gender neutral.

:)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. bill clinton has extra marital sex....these two are called tramps for

what they wear. had they been men no one would have done that.

this is sexism.

as a disclaimer...i love clinton..so what if he was a tramp? he was a great president

[tx_dem41]

24. Great point, LP! n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

25. No, because of how they ACT.

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. Like college students/early twentysomethings?

When I think of what I was doing between, say, 18 and about 23 or 24, I can't really cast any stones.

[livinginphotographs]

31. I generally stay away from the twins-bashing

(except for the godawful RNC appearance).

I'm 24 now, and honestly, I'd probably get along with them pretty well. Just because they drink a lot and go to bars a lot doesn't mean they're sluts. It just means they're "at that age."

Hell, look at me, I haven't had any action in months, and I pretty much live at the bar.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

28. and how do they act?

[fleabert]

27. yes yes yes!

I am so sick of the twin bashing! I don't remember any presidential sons getting this treatment.

Attack their principles.
Attack their political beliefs.
Attack their father.
Attack their actions that actually effect the nation.

Don't attack their appearance! It really is sexist that the only thing they get trounced for is their clothes and how they choose to spend their free time. Men get attention for their actions, women for their appearance, it hasn't changed a bit.

[tx_dem41]

12. Yep, let's be just like the people we "hate".

Makes sense to me. :eyes:

[rkc3]

2. Dressed "like" tramps?

Maybe I'm missing something here, I thought they were tramps.

[johnnie]

4. Maybe when God talked to georgie

God told him that the girls can wear what they want. Has this group even thought of that?

[Spider Jerusalem]

11. Eh.

How much better, really, are we than Rush Limbaugh, who called Chelsea Clinton "the White House dog"? (Okay, granted, Jen and Babs are no Chelseas, but, still...)

[BlueEyedSon]

14. I'm on the fence on that one, Spidey... do we want to be nice,

or do we want to win? Seems like the average dumb-ass merkin responds to that base garbage. Rush & Co. have changed (destroyed) what counts for political debate. Can we fix it?

W killed 100k Iraqis (so far). Would I have behaved like a classless prick to prevent that? Yeah.

[Spider Jerusalem]

16. I have no problem being a vicious bastard to people who deserve it...

but I also tend to think it's a bit unfair to paint with such a broad brush. This "yea, and we shall curse his progeny unto the seventh generation" stuff seems a bit much.

[Richardo]

19. I'm with you: leave the family and Barney out fo it.

Plenty to go around just focusing on Chimpy and Cheney. (hey there's a bumper sticker: Chimpy/Cheney)

[Bunny]

30. I agree, except for the Barney part.

I think he desperately wants to get away from George, and since he has no free will, I wish that someone would orchestrate an Entebbe-style raid to free the little guy! :D

[ikojo]

33. Um....they campaigned for their dad....

IMHO FAIR GAME....


As far as what I was doing in my 20s...it was not dressing like a skank whore that's for sure. I was a geek attending sci fi conventions.

Once they chose to enter into the political arena and allowed themselves to be used for partisan reasons they opened themselves up to the court of public opinion.

WAY different than Chelsea in SO many ways.

[Bunny]

34. Sure they did. So criticize them on their works, not their "skank whore"

looks. When was the last time a presidential son was criticized for his looks? I don't recall that happening in a whole lot of years. But when it's the presidential daughters, all that matters is their appearance? :shrug:

Their dress is atrocious, considering their money, and, presumably, their access to people who could help them dress appropriately. But why does that matter?

[ikojo]

37. The last presidential son I recall vividly is

Ron Reagan Junior and trust me HE was criticized. OOOOH was he criticized. He was ridiculed for being a dancer (if I remember correctly) and of course along with that were the rumors that he was gay.

Other than RR Jr the only pres. son I recall was Steve Ford and I was a kid back then so I don't know if he was ridiculed or not. I think he was an actor for short time.

[tx_dem41]

39. Jimmy Carter had (has) 3 sons. I don't remember them getting criticized.

http://www.ibiblio.org/lia/president/CarterLibrary/GeneralMaterials/Biographies/JimmyCarter-bio.html

[Bunny]

41. But 12 yr. old Amy sure caught a lot of grief, didn't she?

And why was that? Because of her looks.

[tx_dem41]

45. Which I think bolsters LP's original..

sexism charge.

[Bunny]

46. Yep, I agree. I probably wasn't making myself real clear.

It is sexism, when the only things they are criticized for are their looks and apparel.

[Bunny]

43. But it wasn't his appearance, was it?

It was his chosen profession that was criticized. By insecure people who cannot imagine that a straight man could also be a dancer.

[arcane1]

35. if they are skank whores for how they dress...

then what do you call Alexandra Kerry? :shrug:

[ikojo]

38. I wouldn't be seen in a dress that showed my nips that's for sure

I think the reason the Bush twins are held to task is because the party for which they actively campaigned is the party that is held up as one supporting modesty and "moral values." When people support such a party or stand in judgment of others (a la Bill Bennett) they kind open themselves up for more inspection and condemnation for doing what they would deem inappropriate when done by others. Just think of what Falwell and Dobson would say if Chelsea was seen cavorting around DC and NYC dressed as the Bush twins dress. The whole Democratic party would be called to task.

Take Bill Bennett for example...as he was lecturing America on the proper way to raise children and have a family, he was gambling away millions of dollars. Sure many people have a gambling problem and it is sad, but not all gamblers with a problem hold themselves up as paragons of moral virtue. So when a person like that falls, sure he/she will be ridiculed.

[Beer Snob-50]

40. YOu can show your nips. Go ahead!!

:D

[ikojo]

44. LOL!!! I don't think you wanna see them....

I wouldn't look as good in a dress like that. Except for her nips being so visible the dress is OK.

[Beer Snob-50]

47. ahhha

you never know!! LOL!

[arcane1]

42. Just think of what Falwell and Dobson would say

I'd like to think Dems are a few steps above that

[tx_dem41]

17. So we can't be "hard-nosed" AND "principled" to win a campaign?

Funny that you think "nice" and "winning" are mutually exclusive. No, not funny...kinda sad.

[marc_the_dem]

13. The GOP

the epitome of hypocracy...

[Beer Snob-50]

15. I am sensing that people are thinking I am saying that

these girls are tramps. I am asking people to just opine on the rw letter! I find these girls a fun little distraction in this morbid administration.

[ynksnewyork2]

22. They're

HOT!!! I don't support their father or his administration but these two girls are easy on the eyes!

[johnnie]

29. Are you Jenna or Barbara?

LOL..kidding
Welcome to DU.

[livinginphotographs]

32. Although it's probably a serious offense around here...

I have to agree with you.

Welcome to DU, by the way.

[Beer Snob-50]

36. welcome to du