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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:57 PM
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Why are U2 fans so touchy when people criticize them?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 07:58 PM by Wat_Tyler
Who cares what others think. Why does the fact that I think Bono is a horrible, pretentious, self-obsessed, preening, not-particularly talented hack matter a damn to you? It's not as if I'm ramming it down your throat or anything.

On edit - I forgot goat-throttling. Sorry.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:58 PM
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1. What???? You don't like Bono????
What are you, a commie? I can't believe you posted that!!!!!
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:59 PM
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3. Simply Because
Bono is the shit.



Kidding. Really its because they are good. They aren't the worst thing to happen to music.... (Milli Vanilli....)


Plus, Bono wears those big Maphesto glasses and it makes all of us crazy!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:14 PM
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22. Well, truthfully,
... I can take or leave the music, but I like the fact that he is a bit of a humanitarian. Sits well with me.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:59 PM
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2. Because U2 is like their security blanket
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 07:59 PM by Rabrrrrrr
because their brains aren't developed enough to find safety and satisfaction in their own works, so they have to attach their psychological and emotional worthiness as a human being to the supposed "goodness" or "worth" of a rock band.

Stupid people do it with sports teams. Less stupid people do it with rock bands. Generically stupid people do it with authors and composers.
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:00 PM
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4. What the heck?
Only someone stupid would say that shit.....
If I made fun of Liberace you might get mad too.







KIDDING
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:56 PM
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30. and others do it by making stupid generalizations...
Could you be any more insulting to people? Because you don't like U2 and other people do then we are stupid?

How is the air up their, your holiness??
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:02 PM
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35. and even stupider people obsess ober their hatred of a band
to the point that they feel the need to attack their fans in order to build themselves up
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:08 PM
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39. Not sure what you're talking about. I like U2.
Have ever since high school when WAR came out.

:shrug:
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:01 PM
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5. Bono is God


:D
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:02 PM
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6. God's fallen and he can't get up.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:02 PM
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7. I've noticed the same thing about Beatles fans...
You can't even say that most of their early songs were stolen from Black artists or they get in a hissy fit.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:04 PM
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8. They thieved a lot from Dylan and the Byrds, too.
Genius steals.
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:04 PM
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9. Forget U2 and the Beatles
if you bag on The Backstreet Boys IT'S ON.


I'll have to kick your ass.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:05 PM
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12. I WOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER DO THAT!!!!!!!!
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:04 PM
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10. Because the criticism isn't honest
Of course, their "fandom" probably isn't all that honest either, but that's another topic.
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:04 PM
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11. there was a time....
....when you couldn't criticize Pearl Jam, either.
(I did anyway)
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:06 PM
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13. Aren't they
a band for older people?
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:08 PM
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14. Oh Shit;.
Which one is the band for the elderly?

Pearl Jam, The Beatles or The Backstreet Boys?


Because I love PJ and the Beatles
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:08 PM
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15. I'm not touchy about it.
They haven't done anything exciting for a full album since Achtung.

Having said that, Beautiful Day is sublime.
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:10 PM
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18. U2's WORST album
IMHO


Zooropa



I LOATHE THAT SELF INDULGENT SPEW
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:12 PM
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20. Actually, I think that was their last good record.
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:16 PM
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24. Thats the great thing
Someone always has a different opinion.


I thought Zooropa (With the exception of Lemon, which I liked)
was total shit. I hated the Maphesto period & the Tour BLEW CHUNKS.... IMHO. It was complete overkill
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:05 PM
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36. wow-and that's my fav tour
maybe cos i'm into pop art and marshall mcluhan style shit

and i though mcphisto was funny, especially when he retires at the end of the tour and gives a rambling farewell speech
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:57 PM
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31. I concur... n/t
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:00 PM
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34. that's my 2nd fav
dirty day gives me chills every time i hear it-and i think the title track was their stronges album opener ever

i prefer the experimental 90s u2 to the 80s stuff
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:10 PM
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16. I don't give a fuck what you think about any band or musician.
And you shouldn't give a fuck what I think about any group either. It isn't just U2 fans - it's fans who can't take any criticism from others who don't share their taste. We're all different. Get the fuck over it and move on.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:11 PM
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19. Fuck - is that a Depeche Mode sleeve in your avatar?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:13 PM
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21. Yes
So shoot me. :)
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:15 PM
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23. Probably sadder that I recognized it - one of the singles off Violator.
Enjoy the Silence?

(I have no room to speak - I'm the guy with an OMD single in my sig)
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HeyManThatsCool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:18 PM
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25. OMD & DEPECHE
are the best.


Violator is one of my favorite CD's ever.


As for OMD my fav song is "We Love You"

Maybe a Cheesy choice, but brings back happy mems
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:10 PM
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17. wus - you want drama?
time travel back to the mid eighties and explain to a grateful dead fan that there is more than one band in the world.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:18 PM
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26. Same reason Dean fans are so touchy when people criticize him?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 08:19 PM by tjdee
:shrug:

;)

I think it has to do with just really liking someone.

When someone attacks that person/persons you have an affinity for/towards, you subconsciously feel that someone is attacking your good sense for liking that person/persons.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:07 PM
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37. dean bashing is always so juvenile
"but-but-but he screamed that one time! we can't let him be elected to anything!'

you know, that sort of thing
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:26 PM
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43.  strong supporters of every candidate are touchy
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 09:27 PM by jonnyblitz
interesting you choose Dean to illustrate your point. A Dean supporter must have criticized YOUR candidate at one time.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:30 PM
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27. U2 is touchy because Bono's voice is a perfectly pitched agitator.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:46 PM
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28. I had a housemate who played U2 frequently while drunk.
I moved.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:59 PM
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33. I had a roommate in college who only listened to the Moody...
...Blues. To this day, I cannot stand that freakin' band. I hate every song they have ever recorded.

I moved.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:08 PM
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38. I can relate. I had another roomate who made me hate James Taylor.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:49 PM
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29. Are you saying you find Bono tiresome?
I wish you'd commit there. Ambiguity is crazy making.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:59 PM
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32. because it's oh-so-hip to do so
it's just a piling on by people who want to whine about a band that's getting praise and decent sales. no one was whining about u2 a few years ago, not trashing them makes you subversive

a lot of gen x-ers do the same with the beatles, blindly hating the band just cuz their parents like them
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:24 PM
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41. Actually, I think it's "hip" to whine about the "oh so hip"
a few years ago, when "pop" came out, everybody hated U2.

Nowadays, whenever anyone complains about something that used to be cool, the defenders claim that the protestors are only trying to be hip or edgy. That may be the case in some instances, but the broad generalizations just seem like a way to dismiss criticism without having to consider its merits.

There are some people who've never liked U2 and some people who've never forgiven them for "selling out" with the Joshua Tree almost twenty (!) years ago. There are also plenty of people who used to like U2 but don't like what they're doing now. Nothing wrong with that. I don't happen to be one, as I love pretty much the whole catalog, and I even think that the much-maligned Pop is a masterpiece of sorts. I haven't entirely gotten into the new album, but I figure I probably will. Bono's grandstanding and ego do tend to get on my nerves, but I generally don't let it interfere with my enjoyment of the music :D

As for the Beatles, I think they could do no wrong from Revolver onward (some of the early stuff is pretty off the shelf). I know some folks who don't like the Beatles, some have their reasons and others maybe just haven't listened with the right kind of ears. But it's pretty condescending to dismiss gen x-ers who don't like the beatles as blindly hating the band just because their parents like them. Truth is, I don't know a single gen x-er who I think would fall into that category. Back in 11th grade I had some younger friends who approached it that way (one actually tried to argue that Vanilla Ice was more musically significant than John Lennon :wtf:), but they all grew out of it eventually :7
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:40 PM
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44. Or perhaps, we just think they're past their prime?
After all, they are 25 years into making albums. The Rolling Stones were at Steel Wheels by that point.
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Squeegee Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:11 PM
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40. Sing is Bono X 1000
If you think Bono is a horrible, pretentious, self-obsessed, preening, not-particularly talented hack, Sting is all those multiplied 1000, IMHO.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:25 PM
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42. Yay!
Somebody had to say it. STING SUCKS! :D
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:22 AM
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45. Agreed, Sting is decades past his best work
never cared for his 90s brand of easy listening ...
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:24 AM
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46. because they don't like having the truth thrust in their faces
:evilgrin:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:30 AM
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47. Because U2 fans, like my nipples, are quite sensitive.
If *I* had a bunch of delay and chorus pedals at my disposal, *I* could sound just like The Edge.

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