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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:03 PM
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To all you athiests,a challenge.
Go to a grave yard,draw a pentagram, and pray to Satan at midnight. Hey, he doesn't exist so what's the harm?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:04 PM
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1. Being arrested for trespassing & vandalism?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:05 PM
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2. Just do it.
Do it.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:06 PM
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4. Not an athiest.
Just somebody who likes to argue. :evilgrin:
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:07 PM
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7. It is spelled atheist.
And why pray to a being that does not exist? To please you? oddly enough, I don't particularly want to please you.

If you want it done, do it yourself.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:23 PM
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24. I just felt judged by you guys.
Look at all the posts ragging on us Christians.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:05 PM
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3. I wouldn't pray to "Satan" anywhere, anytime...
...anymore than I'd pray to a god, yours or anyone else's.

I don't believe in either of 'em.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:06 PM
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6. Hence the dare.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:08 PM
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8. You go play in crosstown traffic.
Your 'god' will surely protect you.

When you're done...we'll talk about your silly dare.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:06 PM
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5. Why?
That's silly.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:08 PM
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10. Just do it.
Send me the video.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:08 PM
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9. Isn't encouraging people to worship Satan a sin?
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cruadin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:11 PM
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12. I don't understand why an atheist would pray at all.
Atheism is the condition of being without theistic beliefs and, alternatively, the disbelief in or denial of deities.
Satan is a deity, in the Judeo-Christian world, the opposite of God.
To disbelieve in one demands a disbelief in the other.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:13 PM
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14. Exactly! You might as well tell me to go to Graceland and pray to Elvis.
There's No Point to it. None.

I don't pray...ever...to anything.

Won't...nope. Sorry. Not even on a dare...at midnight or noon. In a cemetery or a crosswalk.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:12 PM
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13. The pentagram is *not* a Satanic symbol; it is a Pagan symbol.
And I have several Pagan friends who would take your "challenge" as a personal insult. But so what? After all, Christians are forgiven! :puke:
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:15 PM
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16. What's the harm?
Well if you think atheists (note the spelling) are somehow, deep down inside, afraid of conjuring Satan, you're mistaken.

The harm would be vandalism and desecration.

I double-dog dare you to look in a mirror in a darkened room and say "Bloody Mary" three times. Just do it!
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:16 PM
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17. Why Even Make this Challange..
As I Christian I ask you why?

An Athiest wouldn't take this challenge, mainly becuase it's stupid, it's immature... and as someone else mentioned the pentagram is not a Santanic symbol.


He doesn't exist so what's the harm? Well I guess there wouldn't be really much harm, besides trespassing as someone said... but then again.. why would they pray to something they don't believe in. And if they are going to pray to something they don't believe in.. they probably much rather pray to the make believe good guy instead of the make believe bad guy.

In any case, I don't see anyone taking up this challenge, unless they are really bored, or really drunk.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:18 PM
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20. I guess I just read too many snide athiest remarks today.
Sorry.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:29 PM
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27. Dare.
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 08:31 PM by rogerashton
Both our messages were deleted for personal attacks (I think) so let me try the logic part again.

What you seem to be claiming is that the atheist is really a believer in supernatural beings, despite her/his claim otherwise, and your "dare" proves this. However, it proves nothing, since no atheist would see any reason to do what you demand.

By the way, I am not an atheist by my own definition, though I probably am by yours.

But look at the long historical record of violence by the Abrahamic religions, and tell me why you can believe in the Abrahamic divinity despite this. If you believe the Bible (as I do not) there is, for example, the murder of most of the native people of Palestine about 3000 years ago by the invading Hebrews. Their divinity then punished the Hebrews (according to scripture) for not having killed all rather than most of them. To take just one other of many examples, consider the crusade against the albigensians, in which the Christian marshall of France commanded his troops to "kill them all. God will know his own."

If you believe all that, and you believe that the divinity who directed these things is a morally perfect being, I dare you to tell me what you imagine that the word "moral" means.

On edit. Added a few words omitted in haste.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:16 PM
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18. In an old cemetary nearby, which is located on the grounds of the
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 08:24 PM by Malva Zebrina
1780 meeting house, the "church" of the day, there is a tombstone that reads, in effect, because I cannot remember the exact words,the following-- I request to NOT be buried next to a Methodist!

Also in the cemetary of the oldest extant Catholic church in New England,or at least one who brags that, there are actually two burial grounds. One is a "sanctified" burial ground, and the other is, I guess "unsanctified" and there are actual signs there that state this. I was amused when I saw that. I wonder who those rebels were that were buried in the "unsanctified" part and probably, I would applaud them if I knew the reason that in their death, they were so discriminated against as to not be included in the same earth as those who had holy water sprinkled over them before they died and said a few obligatory prayers, or had confession or something. Maybe they just were those who were connected in some way to those who were buried in the sanctified area, and paid some money to be buried nearby.
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:17 PM
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19. Because it's snowing, freezing and dark out. That's the "harm"...
"Beach Blanket Bingo" on a pentagram at the ol' bone-yard five months from now? Sure, why not...

Actually, I've seen this done near Jimbo Morrison's grave in Cimetire du Pre Lachaise in Paris, and you're correct: no "big guy". Just a lot of filthy hippies and the stench of piss. (perhaps he's channeling?)
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:20 PM
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21. I don't wanna, and YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!
That, my friend, is the true spirit of Atheism.
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:22 PM
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22. I'm an agnostic.
Not an atheist. And I refuse this "dare" simply out of respect for others and their beliefs. It would be an overt insult to people and their beliefs as well as to the the family or friends entombed at said grave yard.

I do not pray to God, nor Satan, nor Allah, Krishna, Ganesha, Thor, Woden, Shiva, et al. There are too many to keep track of, so as a xtian why don't you do the research and see about going to the home countries of said faiths and try your best to insult their deity ? You seem to have no problem asking us non-believers to do so.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:23 PM
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23. It seems my copycat thread has been locked...
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 08:24 PM by NightTrain
....but this one remains open. And the Christians have the fucking nerve to whine about persecution?! :grr: :nuke:
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:27 PM
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25. Sorry, dude and I started this bull.
I just reacted to so many anti christian posts. It was dumb.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:28 PM
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26. You Got That Right
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 08:29 PM by CO Liberal
Maybe some of us non-Christians are getting fed up with people who feel that THEIR belief system is the only valid one. Think of THAT next time you're tempted to post something that knocks those who believe differently than you.
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amandae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:29 PM
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28. Locking
This topic is flaming.

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