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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:03 AM
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Is stream ripping legal?
I have the legal right to record music off the radio, but do I have the legal right to record music off the Internet radio?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:06 AM
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1. Somehow, I think the answer is no.
But what's stopping you? :evilgrin:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:06 AM
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2. Actually, I think it's yes!
IIRC, I read that only the person sharing the music is engaging in an illegal activity... the person downloading is not.

Sounds hinky, so who knows?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:08 AM
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4. I stand corrected.
Reproduction laws are so whacked....
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:07 AM
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3. I don't see a difference
especially when some over the air radio stations are also over the internet.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:10 AM
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7. how can one copy audio on internet radio to listen to later..???
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 10:11 AM by sam sarrha
:shrug: personal use..?
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:11 AM
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8. the 'how' is never a problem...
I don't know, but there are some who do.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:12 AM
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10. lots of programs do that
google stream rippers
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:13 AM
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There are a number of applications that do this.
I use a Mac program called iNet Stream Archiver, but there are dozens and dozens of others.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:08 AM
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5. Yes it is. Sharing it with someone else is not.
It is a personal use issue.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:09 AM
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6. Argh!
I heard the exact opposite!

Any lawyers around?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:13 AM
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11. Think about it... we don't need a lawyer. common sense
it is the same as taping off the radio or tv
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:14 AM
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12. Oh duh
I didn't hear the opposite... I heard the same.

Just ignore me. :hi:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:16 AM
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13. Why would one share?
When anybody can acquire the same effortlessly?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:18 AM
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14. I think that was the legal point that was made when the case
was decided for radio, and then extended to TV and internet.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:12 AM
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9. How about 300 streams at once!
Stream ripping applications allow users to capture multiple streams all day, amounting to several thousand songs. In fact, one program, StationRipper will record 300 streams simultaneously and make a separate MP3 for every song played. It will even skip broadcast tracks that you've already recorded.
...
But is it legal? Stream ripping software has lots of non-infringing uses, so it looks like the programs have nothing to fear ... yet. It's really up to what the user then does with the music – if they are using it as a way to acquire music without paying, or then go onto to share streams or tracks that they have ripped, then that's illegal.


http://digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=distribution&id=1160



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