Goddamned Full Framed f-ing DVDs

[Rabrrrrrr]

And g---amned fucking braindead idiot shitknockers who watch them.

Why the hell do they even make these (@&(*^%# things?

Now I'm stuck watching a full frame version of Thunderbirds because half of America is filled with people too goddamned stupid to watch a movie.

Fuck them. And fuck full frame movies. Fuck them all. And fuck the people who watch them. Fuck you all!!

Thanks for ruining my movie, jackass filth.

And get a brain and learn how to watch a movie in widescreen, THE WAY THEY WERE SHOT, DUMBASSES!!!!

When I'm president, the test to be able to vote will be "Do you think the manufacturers are cheating you out of movie when the image has black bars on the top and bottom?"

If they answer yes, they won't be able to vote. Because they will be too dead from the execution to vote.

DAMMIT!! IDIOTS!!!!!!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

1. You've said nothing I disagree with.

Nothing at all.

[mike_c]

2. don't hold back, Rabrrrrr....

Get it off your chest and you'll feel better....

on edit: I hate 'em too.

[ET Awful]

3. While we're on DVD rants . . .

Fuck companies that put extra long movies on a single DVD, it makes it impossible to make decent back-ups because they always f'up at the end from trying to decrypt it.

[Florida_Geek]

4. geee, take two aspins and

call me in the morning

[Solly Mack]

5. Yeah! Hate movies in full frame

Must have widescreen!

[noshenanigans]

6. The Matrix Fullscreen..

has no reason to exist. Really. Anyone who buys "The Matrix" in fullscreen deserves a beating.

Have you seen the pan n' scan of Ghostbusters? My god. Really horrible digital camera and frame moves.. it makes a film major weep.

[fujiyama]

32. Yep

That's the film that always comes to mind when I think of pan and scan. I remember watching that for the first time (it was on TV) and I was wondering why the hell the screen was shifting so much like that.

[tridim]

7. My dad got me the Star Wars box set for Xmas

FULL SCREEN VERSION! I actually laughed when I opened it. Needless to say, it's on it's way back to Amazon for a quick exchange. Old folks just don't understand letterbox.

[Bok_Tukalo]

51. What's wrong with full screen?

Just kidding. Drived me nuts. I had a full screen VHS of 'Tora! Tora! Tora!' that would make me pull my hair out when they would pan back and forth during the Japanese conference. One of the first things I replaced with a wide screen version when DVD's came into the market.

[7th_Sephiroth]

55. that pissed me off

usually silver coloring is used for full screen and gold for wide screen but its the other way around with the DVD sets for star wars, diddent realise it until it was too late

[RC]

8. Some of us only have a computer monitor

to watch DVDs on. I sit about 2½ feet away. I don't really care what format it is.

[realisticphish]

57. same here

makes no diff to me, unless serious content is lost b/c of it

The Incorrigible Democrat

[DawgHouse]

9. Arrggghh!!! Damn them all!

My kiddo just bought Anchorman in full frame version. What have I done? I thought I had raised a smart kid but now I have to question my parenting skills. It's miserable to watch this classic in full frame.. what was he thinking???!!! Can this child be saved?

[Rabrrrrrr]

11. OMG! It's time for an intervention!!

No matter how many times I've explained to my brother-in-law that fullframe is from the devil and that, in fact, it's fullframe that cheats him out of image, not widescreen, he still just doesn't get it.

He got Van Helsing for my nephew for Christmas. In fullframe. What's the fucking point?

I wouldn't be surprised if the ROTK extended version that my sister bought my BOL was in full frame. In which case, you REALLY have to ask "what's the fucking point?"

At least my niece, who's very hip and smart, understands, and she is a widescreen swearby as well.

[ikojo]

21. Just as I question whether I am related to the

humans who claim to be my siblings and my mother...so too you must question...

Is a child who does not appreciate widescreen TRULY of your loins?

Questions demanding to meet their answers.

[EstimatedProphet]

10. Ever see 2001 full screen?

The last 20 minutes of the movie are about 10% of what's on the screen...jeez.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

12. I like your style

Good show. You're right, of course.

[Mr.Green93]

13. Just tape black paper

on the screen.

[Wheaty]

14. How can people be so Stoopid

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. I don't know. But they should not be allowed to live or to breed.

[sub.theory]

24. You have to SHOW them why

Exactly. The best way to convince people that widescreen is better, is to show them by example. Here is a great site of examples.

I think the following example is perfect:

[Merlot]

16. Great litmus test:

"Do you think the manufacturers are cheating you out of movie when the image has black bars on the top and bottom?"

I can use this for lots of things; screening potential dates, clients, anyone I work with or hire. It's a much less intrusive way of finding out someone's intelligence, taste, and judgement.

I thought the whole idea behind DVD was the ability to watch a movie in widescreen, but most DVD's are full screen. What a waste. I suppose when people all get their new widescreen television monitors, they'll figure it out. Maybe.

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. It's certainly one of the litmus tests I've used

I think that when the shitknocking morons get their widescreen TVs, they're going to bitch because of the wide black bands on the right and left hand side of the screen.

Seriously, they're too stupid to be allowed to breed. This really is an excellent point at which to separate the unwashed cattle from the human beings.

[Pithlet]

17. I agree.

It's really a simple concept. Traditional television screens and movie screens aren't the same shape. If they don't letter box them, they either have to distort the picture, or cut the edges off to fit it on a tv screen.

[ikojo]

19. Rabrrrrrr you speak for me

Last week, while visiting my mom, I put in Harry Potter: Prisoner of Azkeban. I only buy widescreen and my mom said something about the bars. I told her that widescreen is how the movie was shot by the director and to view it any other way is to change the way the artist intended the movie to be seen.
My mom then said, well I bought a big TV so that I could see everything!

It's times like these when I KNOW, JUST KNOW there is a family out there wondering what happened to their child. Surely I am not related to these people! I cannot be.

I AM HERE!!!

[Merlot]

20. thanks for the LOL

"It's times like these when I KNOW, JUST KNOW there is a family out there wondering what happened to their child. Surely I am not related to these people! I cannot be."

I've so been there!

[personman]

22. If ever there was justification

for electrified genital wires...

[Solon]

23. Oh I agree...

and the thing that REALLY pisses me off is when I go to the get movie I know I want, and all the widescreen versions are sold out. Even when the "other" version is available I just walk home, or go to a different store, GODDAMN FULL SCREEN DVDs ALL TO HELL!!!!

[Rabrrrrrr]

25. I think this needs to be sent around again

Since I'm still pissed at the fact that my life is constantly invaded and made worse because of people who are interminably ignorant and clueless.

[koneko]

26. Tell us how ya REALLY feel. . .

I hate 'em, too.

(I mean I hate the full-screens AND the idiots who keep the movie industry producing them.)

[Deja Q]

27. I'm glad I still have my laserdisc player... I did buy some movies

DVD and they were full frame.

So I captured my laserdisc widescreen video, merged the better video with the higher quality DVD audio, made a new 16 -friendly DVD out of the amalgamation of the sources. Yes, I'm that nutty.

(For poorer quality LDs I also cleaned up the video and sound before making my for-use DVD. I still bought the DVD for license reasons, but I still have both so it's okay. )

[Deja Q]

28. Some movies include The Empure Strikes Back, Death Becomes Her,

Bedazzled (1967), and The re-mastered SW trilogy where they didn't do have as much as they had on the new fresh DVD release that truly bastardizes it all.

[DS1]

29. Hey slick, don't but the FullScreen version and you'll be ok

[Rabrrrrrr]

30. Don't "but" the fullscreen?

I'm having a hard time figuring that line out. DId you mean a different word? Forget a word?

[DS1]

48. buy

[Rabrrrrrr]

49. AH! Of course!

Shit. Now I feel dumb... I was trying everything else "butt" and "put" and "out" and etc.

Duh.

[fujiyama]

31. I like the test

I was over at a friend's house (well actually it was his parents house...he was visiting them on vacation)...and these are your upper middle class, keepin up with Joneses kinda people. His mom unfortunately voted for Bush though my friend is very liberal.

Anyways, they bought a nice big suburbanite home and a nice widescreen TV.

They have all these DVDs they've bought over time, but guess what? They're all FULL FRAME! That means they have a TV which hardly ever even comes in use. My friend and I asked his mom, and she was like, "well your dad always wanted the fullscreen DVDs"

Of course they have enough money, where they'll most likely just the buy the same fuckin things all over again.

[kevinam]

33. I agree...

I have been buying widescreen movies for quite a while. A couple of times, I have bought a movie and didn't realize til I got home that it was 'fullscreen'. I had to return it for the widescreen version. Itjust can't be watched. Speaking of...just like in politics, where cutting down trees is for healthy forests. Calling those dvd's 'fullscreen' really is wrong. They should change it to half movie.
Kevin

[Catchawave]

34. I don't have a widescreen t.v.....

...and those black bars are so very annoying!

[Flammable Materials]

35. Then go into your DVD player setup menu ...

Select "Display Type" ...

Select "16 : 9" ...

and press play.

The picture will look slightly "stretched" but you'll get a) a full-screen image, and b) the entire image.

[Catchawave]

53. Thanks for the info !

Though I don't even KNOW HOW to turn our DVD thing on, I do appreciate your kind assistance

[Rabrrrrrr]

50. They're only annoying if you think that you are being "cheated" of movie

which you aren't. With the black bars, you are actually getting the WHOLE movie, not a bastardized cut down useless shit version.

[Catchawave]

54. LOL, No, I paid for a much larger screen t.v...

...I want the screen FULL All 36 inches.

[ecstatic]

59. I agree. I hate widescreen displays on regular TVs

Maybe if I had an 80inch projector screen I'd feel differently...

[NYC Liberal]

36. Totally agree, seeing as both my TV and computer screen

are widescreen.

And another thing...I also HATE HATE HATE commercials/previews that you CAN'T SKIP! What's with that?

[Flammable Materials]

39. They're called PUO's ...

... or "Prohibited User Options". They allow the manufacturer of the DVD to disable certain DVD commands during certain portions of the disc.

Which is another reason to get DVD backup software. Some of the better programs will disable PUOs on the backed-up copy.

[Kellanved]

37. Heh: for once I am grateful to live in a PAL@50Hz country

No Pan&Scan, practically no "Full Screen" DVDs and "Full screen" movies on TV are extremely rare.
And also PAL Speedup (especially when corrected) is a lot easier to stomach than the NTSC Judder.


Of course even "Widescreen" releases are usually not as widescreen as the cinema version.

[Flammable Materials]

41. First time I watched TV on a PAL TV set ...

... it actually bothered my eyes a little, particularly in bright scenes. The 5fps makes a difference.

[bikebloke]

38. Saw King Arthur in full frame

When I picked it up at the video shop, I thought it would be widescreen. Turned out panned & scanned. Merde. And you could tell that you're missing something throughout the film. I thought it might have been a scheme to nudge folk into buying the unrated version in widescreen. Another visit to the shop and I saw the unrated version below eye level. My fault for being asleep at the wheel.

It was an all right popcorn flick, but I wouldn't see it again.

[Az]

40. Er, couldn't you take it back and get a widescreen version?

Just asking.

[ghostsofgiants]

42. About time someone said it.

Fuck, I hate me some pan and scan fullscreen shit something fierce.

[oneighty]

43. Ah! The dark at the top and bottom.

Popped my very first DVD into my very first DVD player on my very first flat screen TV and there was a black area top and bottom of the screen.

"WTF" I am thinking, "I got a defective DVD."

But then I am 180.

180

[B Calm]

44. Take a handful of Oxy and calm down!

[Thor_MN]

45. I agree on most points, but try saying no to that 5th esspresso...

[Chovexani]

46. Amen brother!

Why the FUCK do they even make pan and scan DVDs of movies?!

The only pan and scan DVDs I own are TV shows and animes that were originally filmed that way.

My aunt, otherwise a very intelligent person, can't seem to understand why full screen is the devil even though I have taken many an opportunity to explain it to her. Then again she calls widescreen "mailbox" so I think she's just a lost cause...had to listen to her whine about "mailbox" when I showed her Return of the King EE.

[Dukkha]

47. I SO agree! Ban them all!

I used to be you'd get both formats on the same disk. That was cool. Now they split them up for more profits. Twice I've accidentally bought the full screen versions and I nearly had a conniption when it stick it in the player. I race back to quickly exchange them raging on the road. Full Screen! Full Screen! AAAAAH! My night is RUINED!

They will go away eventually. Once HDTV becomes the standard everyone will eventually have 16.9 sets and only wide screen will be purchased then.

There was an article on The Onion last year:

Non-Widescreen Version Of DVD Received As Hanukkah Gift
BROOKLYN, NY—Self-described film buff Tyler Rosenstein was disappointed to receive a non-letterboxed "full screen" version of the movie The Matrix Reloaded as a Hanukkah gift, the 19-year-old...
I wish I has Onion premium to get the whole story.

[trogdor]

52. Unfortunately...

...there is a trade-off here. NTSC color TV only has 535 horizontal scan lines, and when you watch in wide-screen, you turn a third of them off. This reduces resolution on an already low-res system. Either you shell out thousands on a hi-def widescreen TV, accept a picture with only 300 or so scan lines, or buy the pan-and-scan version. None of those options are particularly appealing.

[Endangered Specie]

56. Don't worry... Karma will get them soon

when 16-9 TV's become popular, fullscreen loonies will be paid back with VERTICAL BLACK BARS... mwhahahahaha. justice will come soon.

It would help if we all started calling fullscreen "chopped movie", or "choppedscreen".

Btw, about the black boxes, they are GREAT for someone like me who needs the captions on and don't want them to interfere with the picture .

[MuseRider]

58. OK, here goes.

I am officially joining the ranks of the too dumb to live or breed, sorry I am and have done both but I have no clue what in the hell you are talking about.