Favorite pop star

[mvd]

Poll question: Favorite pop star

I vote for Madonna, but Michelle's very, very close behind. Love Avril and like Pink a lot, too. Don't care for the rest. Hilary Duff's music MAY grow on me, but I can't see that happening with artists like Britney, Christina, or 'N Sync. If I had to choose, Britney's my fave of those three.

If your favorite is "other" instead, post it. If you don't like any, well, to each his own. This is meant to be a positive board. :)

[vi5]

1. What? No Beatles?

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[wyldwolf]

74. '

[ronnykmarshall]

76. I like indie music.

But that doesn't mean there aren't "pop" artist I love as well. Being here in LA, I've been able to see more independent artists and it's shame that some of them are not getting the airplay they deserve. It's also a shame that some of those people that ARE getting airplay are on the radio at all.

[wyldwolf]

78. That's true, but you're not pouting about it, are you?

...I mean, even though you have your own tastes, you're not bitter that other people like music you don't like, are you?

THAT is my point. These kids just whine and pout about that evil corporate music!

By the way, I reposted the original response ... #75

[ronnykmarshall]

85. Nawww!

But I've seen first hand how hard it is some people with talent get passed over for some of the crap that's on the radio. You either sell yourself (and sometimes your soul) over to the record company honchos or you bust your ass and starve to make it.

I admire the ones that won't sell out.

There ARE plenty of popular artist that DID pay their dues and made it. Madonna did. She made it in the business because she's smart and believed in herself.

[meegbear]

2. Glad to see people are putting the polling feature to good use

[rucky]

3. Beyonce needs to be up there...

...she's the hottest of the bunch (this week).

Hillary Duff is so yesterday.

[mvd]

6. Nah, Michelle's the hottest

Though Beyonce is nice looking, Ashanti's nice looking, Britney's pretty nice looking but her personality is a turnoff, and Avril's getting better.

Some pictures of Avril even before now looked really cute.

[MarianJack]

7. YES!!!!!!!!

Talented, and soooo lovely! :wow:

Of course, my wife is the loveliest of all! :loveya: :hug:

[mvd]

9. Well, Beyonce's more talented than Ashanti IMO

But I still say clearly Michelle is better all around - talent and looks.

[mvd]

30. BTW

The two hottest in pop IMO are Andrea Corr and Gwen Stefani - and I also love their music (especially Andrea's) - but didn't put them as options. :)

[Android]

53. Gwen Stefani

should be on that list! She's got looks, personality and talent. Gwen rocks!! But yeah, I wouldn't exactly consider her "pop" so maybe you are right :-)

[ronnykmarshall]

58. Plus she's over 30

and doesn't hide that fact.

[last_texas_dem]

71. Amen!

Glad to see you put my unrequitted :loveya:love:loveya: Michelle Branch on the poll, mvd! :hi:

You're right on about the beautiful and talented bit! I'm not too much into today's pop music, but make an exception for Michelle Branch- and not just 'cause I think she's such a hottie. I've liked her stuff from the first time I heard "Everywhere".

While I can't say I care too much for anyone else in the poll (but will admit to liking a small amount of songs by several of them as "guilty pleasures") I respect anyone standing up for what they really like. My tastes tend to be fairly diverse if basically "mainstream" at the same time; some of my favorite bands are The Beatles, Pearl Jam, Soul Asylum, Chicago, Hall and Oates, Stone Temple Pilots, Jethro Tull, and The Doors. And as a fan of Uriah Heep, Styx, "Billy, Don't be a Hero", and Kasenatz-Katz bubblegum-psych, I've gotten used to defending my tastes quite a bit myself, and it's good to see you sticking up for the music you like, mvd, whether it's "cool" music to be a fan of or not!

[mvd]

12. Hilary's not so yesterday..

I think think she's not tomorrow so far. Some people really hear good things in her music, but I haven't yet.

And she's way too young to be appreciated for attractiveness, so she's a wait and see all around.

[SweetZombieJesus]

4. Where's Satan?

He's the one who shat out all these pathetic "celebrities" and unleashed them on an unsuspecting world to lower the standards of God's perfect and holy children. </Bill Hicks>

Seriously, they all suck monkey eggs.

[mvd]

5. I wanted to get opinions on the newer stars

That's why The Beatles are missing. And to each his own, SZJ. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

[SweetZombieJesus]

8. Alright then, I'll just pretend this is Bizarro World

And I'll vote for the one I hate the most: Avril Lavigne. You're about as punk as Glenn Campbell, honey.

[mvd]

11. Well, punk doesn't matter to me

I just love Avril's style. And I think it's a bizarro world where no pop stars are appreciated. But we'll never convince each other, I guess.

[SweetZombieJesus]

16. Well, it matters to me, that's why I hate her

I'm sick of pre-fab little pop princesses trying to act like their heiresses to the throne of Exene. Avril doesn't have a punk bone in her disgustingly emaciated body, and I'm sick of her Monkee counterparts Good Charlotte too. Chris Rock said it best: "More like a mediocre Green Day." And even that's an insult to Green Day.

Corporate America needs to stop draping it's little fecal offspring in the garments of people who actually had talent and vision and cheapening the memory of bands I love. Everytime those assholes in Good Charlotte namecheck the Clash as if they actually listen to them, punk rock dies a little.

[mvd]

18. I disagree

They may be manufactured to a degree, but IMO she and others have talent and I like the music, period. End of story. That's what counts.

[SweetZombieJesus]

21. Fine with me

I have no issue with you liking her music, what I have a problem with is her corporate handlers marketing her as punk. If they want to make her another pop star like Titney, that's fine with me, but don't pretend she's Siouxsie Sioux 2003 or something. She's just another vapid teenage girl thrown out to appeal to the jailbait loving, Maxim reading men of this country.

[mvd]

25. I can see your point here

Avril is now trying to distance herself from the label's efforts.

But, I have a feeling her next album WILL be harder. Just hope she doesn't lose the charm I found on Let Go.

[mvd]

22. Oh, and BTW,

She and Green Day are almost equal IMO. Green Day by a little, but that might change soon.

[SweetZombieJesus]

27. Green Day isn't a punk band anymore

Equal? Please. Green Day has never, even in their lowest lows, written anything as insipid and puke inducing as "Sk8r Boi". I'm not one of those punks who scream "SELL OUT" at Green Day, because I enjoyed their post-Kerplunk output, but Avril Lavigne is a completely different animal than Green Day. Christ, Green Day is the fucking Clash compared to that bimbette.

[mvd]

29. That's how I hear them

As nearly equal. That is my opinion.

[catzies]

45. You get major points for mentioning Exene!!!

A GODDESS.

[SweetZombieJesus]

48. It was either her or Penelope Houston from The Avengers

Or Patti Smith, but her poem-wankery knocks some points off her overall punk box-score.

[catzies]

46. dupe

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[SiouxJ]

15. seriously

if you don't like the music, stay off the thread. Remember mom's advice, "if you can't say something nice, you need not participate in a thread that obviously is not directed at you."

[mvd]

17. Thanks, SiouxJ!

I can't see the message you responded to, but I appreciate it. :loveya:

There are plenty of other opportunities for pop bashing here at DU. I can't stop people from doing it here, but they are making no impact on me.

[SiouxJ]

20. Hey you!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, ;-) the thing I love most about you is your vast open mindedness about music. It's a rare quality :-)

:loveya: :hi:

[mvd]

28. Thanks again!

:loveya:

Wish more could be like you. :hi:

I try to be nice on boards for music that I don't like.

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Plus you have good taste!

Since you're a Cindy Alexander fan!
:loveya:

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[SiouxJ]

34. If you're gonna make an obvious attempt

to ruin someone's fun (for no apparent reason) then it is my business. If you post on a thread expect anyone, not just the person you posted to, to reply. News flash- that's the way it works; like it or not. Obviously pop music is not your business, so perhaps you should take your own advice and mind your own, kid.

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[SiouxJ]

40. He honestly likes this music and so what?

I think I know MVD a lot better than you. I've known him for as long as I've been here (about a year and a half) and he's one of the things that makes the lounge a fun place to hang. Unlike people like you who cannot resist the temptation to make negative jabs at music you don't happen to like. Just what is the point of doing that? Why even come on this thread? It's obviously not directed at you. Oh, I know, in your High School world it makes you look cool. Well guess what? This isn't High School and if he wants to post a poll about music he likes, you don't need to come around and try to put a damper on it.

I can guarantee you he does NOT do this to get negative replies. A poll like this is usually made to find others who enjoy the same music and discuss it. His posts are genuine. If you don't like him (or his taste in music), then I suggest you do what he did to you and put him on ignore. Then you no longer have to be bothered with his threads. Oh, but that wouldn't be any fun, would it?

[mvd]

42. Yep, I was just curious

I'm not responding, but I can say this: this poll has no negative intentions. If he doesn't like me either, he might as well put me on ignore. You can already tell what I'm doing. ;-)

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[kid shelleen]

50. So what you're saying is...

...I'm off your party guest list? Forever?

High School? I wish!

Not negative replies, just attention. You can't see that? C'mon Suze.

You did get the last part right, it is fun.

[ronnykmarshall]

57. Try and make a point

without being so damn rude and insulting.

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[ronnykmarshall]

60. Another "skirt"?

You wanna expand on that comment?

BTW - Enjoy your tombstone, pal.

[kid shelleen]

61. If you can't take it, PAL

Don't dish it out.

[ronnykmarshall]

62. Yeah, right.

Clock is ticking young man. Maybe they go for that homophobic crap in freeperville, but not here.

Carefull of the spliters when the door slams shut.

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[sister_rosa_refried]

66. Let me at him!

Sister's got a ruler with that young man's name on it!

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[sister_rosa_refried]

72. Watch your MOUTH!

Young man you are pushing this penguin to the limit.

[ronnykmarshall]

73. Uh oh!

Now you've done it. You've pissed off the nun!

[kid shelleen]

77. Good

She's prolly a Pink fan, too.

[sister_rosa_refried]

79. Pink?

Not a color Sister is fond of. However, one time Sister Juana was doing the landry and threw in some of the red table cloths in with Rev Mother's formal white habbit.

You should have seen the look on the Bishop's face when Rev Mother showed up looking like a backup singer for James Brown.

[kid shelleen]

81. Get in th' hot tub

James Brown is thee MAN. Please forgive me, sistah.

[sister_rosa_refried]

82. SLAP!

How DARE you speak to Sister in that manner??!! Hot TUB??!!! Why I never!!!

Well maybe one time at the annual Nun-A-Thon in Maui. Sister Lulu from Our Lady of Kamiamia scored us some "weed" and well, just say confession was quite a shock for Father Jose.

[kid shelleen]

83. I jus' knew you had a wild side

Praise de Lawd.

[ronnykmarshall]

84. Sister ROSA!!

I'm stunned! So tell us, did you get the munchies? Is that where the Refried name was born?

[sister_rosa_refried]

91. Tee Hee!

Yes dear, when Sister gets her groove on set down a good plate of beans, rice and tortillas and you've got a meal.

[zekeson]

13. Is Madonna still a pop star?

I thought she was playing in Vegas these days? Or, writing children's books. Pink? One lousy song, the rest, faceless. As much staying power as Petula Clark.

[mvd]

14. Disagree all around

I thought we could just concentrate on our favorite?

Madonna's still a pop star - she just pushes limits.

[zekeson]

19. ok, I'll bite

what limit has Madonna pushed musically in the last decade?

[SweetZombieJesus]

24. The limits of voice synthesizing technology?

Between her and Cher, all voice effects in popular music should be outlawed.

[mvd]

26. Well, recent pop music hasn't had the type of beats

that Madonna has. Or the lyrics.

As I said, I'm not being influenced when it comes to liking.

[zekeson]

32. As you say, its all taste

I'd disagree on your lyrics take - most rap is merely pop and rap and hip hop artists certainly smoke Madonna. I guess I would need to see some examples of a "ground-breaking" Madonna song to understand what you mean. The funny thing about pop music is, that by definition it is what is popular or well known. There are always a dozen or more other folks you never heard of that are doing things more inventive and just as well as your "ground-breaking" well known pop star.

Those are the folks I would rather support rather than continue to pump more money into the Madonna industry.

[mvd]

33. I don't like the nature of most rap and hip hop lyrics

Madonna's have a good balance. I've been with her from the beginning and don't think she's lost much. Ray Of Light was as good as her earlier albums IMO.

[kid shelleen]

35. First you need to understand...

..the difference between pushing buttons and pushing 'limits', among other things. Mundana and her 'shock troops/clone wannabes' excel ONLY in the former.

[sister_rosa_refried]

92. No dear

You act as if Las Vegas is a negative aspect. Sister loves Las Vegas. That charming Celine gal has a show there. From what I've heard it's lovely. Granted, Sister could be just as happy at an Red Hot Chili Pepper's show, but give this ol' penguin a flashy Vegas show and slots and you've got one happy nun.

Now, if those chili pepper boys would show up at the convent all hot and sweaty and tatooed. You paint the picture dears, some of you might want to change the station.

[underpants]

23. I'm going to use the "doesn't wholy and completely suck dog's asses"

Criteria

Lessee which one of these very talented rags-to-riches-the-people-put-them-there-without-incredible-media-star-making-shoving-it-down-everyone's-throat artists should I pick?

None of them that which one.

:thumbsdown:

[soleft]

36. Sheryl Crow

[mvd]

37. I love Sheryl!

:thumbsup:

[ronnykmarshall]

54. Drool!

and this is coming from a gay man.

I saw her with Stevie Nicks in 2001. Great concert!

[sister_rosa_refried]

80. A lovely girl.

Sister likes that song about the sun coming up over Santa Monica Blvd. When Sister was younger, that was my stomping grounds. Not a day would go by that you wouldn't see us zipping down the street in the Nun-mobile heading towards the beach.

SURF'S UP!

[OneBlueSky]

39. if you ever catch me listening to any of them, shoot me . . . n/t

.

[VermontDem2004]

41. What!?! No hillary Duff? She has the #1 album in the nation

btw, I don't like any of them with a positive :)

[mvd]

44. I'm give DU some time to get to know her

;-)

Ok, I have to go for now. Just wanted to create this, and because of the responses, stay and defend my like of the kind of music. Music is subjective, and all the debate in the world can't make someone like or dislike artists.

It's something I like, and I'm proud of it.

[zekeson]

49. Hey, I watched Hillary Duff with my 7 year old last night

she's awfully cute, but a pop star? How about a pre-packaged off the shelf commondity, to be consumed by an indiscriminate public?

[kmla]

43. Don't listen to hardly any of them, 'cept Pink...

Hubba hubba! Owwwooooooooooooooooo!!!!



:loveya:

[ronnykmarshall]

56. Pink is hot!

Last halloween she played the street fair in West Hollywood. The cool part was that the stage was set up right at the end of my street. We got to watch her whole show from our deck.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

65. kylie minogue

my musical guilty pleasure.

and check out the flaming lips' cover of 'can't get you out of my mind"

[rucky]

87. YES!

I dragged my pop-luvin' wife to her first Flaming Lips show and they played the Kylie cover. She was blown away by the whole show, but I think that's what made her a fan...then she snagged all my Lips CDs for her car.

I love my wife, but I want my records back, dammit.

[sister_rosa_refried]

67. That Spears woman!

Don't get Sister started on that one.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

69. Michelle Branch

The rest all pretty much suck. :D

Kidding, mvd.

[wyldwolf]

75. I see the whiney indie/alt music kids are out today!

...I see the indie/alt music snobs are out today whining about the evil corporate pop music.

Its really kind of sad. Everyone has their favorite kind of music but its only these types who bash what others like.

Why is that?

I mean, they revel in the fact that their music is obscure, insist that if more people get turned on to it, the quality suffers (weird logic) and the artists sell out, yet they WANT others to notice their music. Kind of self defeating.

"pop" music is short for "popular" by the way.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

88. it's only popular

because Clear Channel feeds it to the masses.

[wyldwolf]

89. Can you PROVE that?

... I mean, what was the excuse BEFORE clear channel came into being?

bwah haha (sniff!) That EVIL corporate music! boo hoooo!

Clear Channel doesn't own a single pop music station where I live.

Let's see. The company bought their first station in 1972. Was that when music went bad?

They bought their next one in 1975. A small AM station. Was that when pop music began to be controlled by Clear Channel?

In 1986, they increased their holdings to 12 stations in 7 small and medium markets. Perhaps now is when Clear Channel began that evil influence!

Maybe it was 1995 when their assets grew to 45 stations. Hmmm... 45 stations controlling the state of pop music? Doubtful. No! Laughable!

In 2000, their stable grew to 625 stations worldwide. That's world wide. Was the diabolical scheme hatched then?

Wait! Clear Channel's CHR holdings (CHR is the format that plays pop) is about 8%. Which is a drop in the bucket among the countless pop music stations world wide.

It seems they excert much more influence over classic rock, rock, and country stations.

[beanball]

86. From out of the past,

Nancy Wilson my alltime favorite.NANCY YOU ARE THE GREATEST.

[ronnykmarshall]

90. Now you're talkin'!

Nancy Wilson is great!

[jus_the_facts]

93. Uhhhh.....Hey man.........

....that's all I had to say in this thread! :evilgrin:

....any ya know :yourock: regardless of our differing tastes in music!!! :*

[George_Bonanza]

94. Billy Joel

That man is awesome!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

95. Celine Dion is no longer considered Pop.

She's now Adult contemporary. No one listens to her. She sounds like a screaming cat, or a cat in heat, which ever you prefer. SHe gives me migranes. They play her stuff where I get my nails done. I brought them a Nora Jones CD yesterday so they wouldn't feel the need to have to listen to that Celine BS. It's like Nails on a chalkboard.
Duckie

[arwalden]

96. Michael Jackson? Your forgot Michael... and Janet!!!

[DEM FAN]

97. Mariah Carey.. Crow.. Pink.. Madonna..

:-)

[noonwitch]

98. I hate them all!!

I do actually like one of Madonna's songs/videos- "Like a Prayer".
I also liked her in "Evita".