Chomsky vs. Dean vs. Clark

[ButterflyBlood]

Poll question: Chomsky vs. Dean vs. Clark

so who'd want as President here?

I vote for Chomsky just because he'd get rid of all the Freepers. They'd either move or have heart attacks.

[redeye]

1. Dean, as usual

I utterly despise Noam Chomsky.

[Jim Sagle]

2. What you said.

[Room101]

3. Why do you despise Chomsky?

Any reasons or have you been conditioned to?

[Dogmudgeon]

6. Conditioned -- Or Shampooed?

Actually, I'd like to hear why Chomsky is despised.

I don't dispise him, but I don't agree with him on everything, either.

I do find that most people either worship him with a religious fervor, or hate him as they would hate the devil.

--bkl
Noam, Noam on the Range ...

[redeye]

8. Ok, I hate him...

...but not as I would the devil, but rather as I would have god, had it existed (had the devil existed I'd have worshipped it for trying to free humanity from religion).

[redeye]

7. Define "conditioned"

There are many reasnos:

- The "they're brainwashed" argument, which is a tautology.
- The Holocaust denial.
- The comparison between the 9/11 attacks and anti-Nazi raids during WW2, and the glorification of the 3rd worst terrorist attack in history.
- The contradiction between caring for motive when the US has a questionable motive but noble actions and caring for actions when the US has noble motives but not-so-good results.
- The anti-Semitism in general ("Jews don't deserve a second homeland because they already have New York").
- The political crank attitude.

[Terwilliger]

10. anti-semitism?

the man is a freaking Zionist

Now your other conclusions are utterly suspect, redeye

[redeye]

12. Zionist?

Don't make me die laughing. Chomsky has made many blatantly anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish remarks (spin this: "Jews don't deserve a second homeland <Israel>, because they already have New York, with a... Jewish-run media... Jewish mayor <and more I don't remember>").

[Deja Q]

9. Despise is a harsh word!

I mean, philosophically we're on the opposite sides of the spectrum. But I don't despise you.

But if it makes you feel any better, I despise Bush.

[redeye]

13. Well, there're a lot of people whom I seldom agree with...

...but don't despise. Zinn comes to mind; I think he's a paranoid, but I don't despise him. AIPAC, too, with their "Israel is more democratic than Palestine so it's okay for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians" - I don't despise them, just think they're illogical.

I reserve the term despise to people who commit mass murder, deny the holocaust, support active physical suppression of dissent (e.g. Ann Colt.45er), or so on.

[Wonk]

4. From the results so far it seems that DU is

smarter than your average pickinick basket :-)

[JohnKleeb]

5. well my man JC is losing to Dean

but just barely.

[smallprint]

11. chomsky quote

"Democracy requires dissolution of private power. As long as there is private control over the economic system, talk about democracy is a joke. You can't even talk about democracy until you have democratic control of industry, commerce, banking, everything..."

http://monkeyfist.com/ChomskyArchive

[redeye]

14. Oh yeah...

:puke:... socialists and their inability to separate things that have barely any connection. Democracy, in case Noam "the Holocaust is fantasy" Chomsky forgot, is a political system, not an economic one. Further, liberal democracy makes a clear distinction between the public sphere, which should be under public control, and the private sphere, in which it is far more libertarian and less collective or democratic.