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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:57 PM
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DU Men and DU Gay Women
Does this make you more inclined to buy a book from this seller?



That book was recommended to me today, and I searched for it on Ebay.

That seller has half-clad women modeling all of his books for sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:58 PM
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1. she's cute
NT
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:59 PM
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2. but what about my question?????
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:10 PM
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15. After I Saw Her Picture I Suspended Critical Thinking...
Buy the book.... Hell..... I'll buy the publishing company....
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:08 PM
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31. LOL
Men. :D
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:59 PM
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3. Uhhhhh...no
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:04 PM
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8. I might add..
that I'm also NOT uninclined to buy her book because of that picture. Hell, I've had great books suggested to me by their author while they were in the nude. (Pagan festivals...those who've been know what I'm talking about.)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:05 PM
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9. cause you're the Mack Daddy
:hi:

:loveya:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:07 PM
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12. Damn straight!
:loveya: :hi:

Looks like a lot of old-timers are hanging out tonight. I wonder what's up.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:12 PM
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16. heh
summer winding down

:hi:
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM
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4. Less.
But also, I don't think she's that cute. I get a weird vibe from her facial expression.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM
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5. she does look a tad "stoned"
:hi:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM
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6. It makes me wonder about the book.
If you have to use sex to sell the book, maybe it's not that good of a book.

Not that I have anything against half-clad women or anything... ;-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:02 PM
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7. The book is supposed to be really good
It was recommended to me today on this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:06 PM
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10. Distracts from the book
I'm no longer looking at books, instead I'm flipping through the other books this guy is selling and looking at the pictures.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:06 PM
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11. DU Men? I'm a gay male. Am I not a man? Your comment is homophobic.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 07:07 PM by HypnoToad
How about adding gay men and heterosexual women to your list? Or bisexual men and women?

But I digress from the point of my response with pedantic political correctness: I have nary a clue as to what the book is about and I stared at the cover for 5 minutes. Working at the edge of a waterfall it seems to be... what are the workers doing? Does this book have a point, or it so limited in scope to people wearing bright orange next to a cliff face? If I gave a hoot, I'd read the synopsis on the back and likely not buy the book anyway.

But for those inclined, they have the benefit of having something else to look at that they DO understand, should the cover make no sense to them.

Given the size of the book compared to the size of the flaunting female figure, the eyes of ANY human are more likely to guide in her direction anyway.

This advert is not about the book. It's about a fit and trim woman with a leather bra concealing her boobies.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:09 PM
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13. I'm sorry, didn't mean to present it/myself that way
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 07:11 PM by CatWoman
but I "assumed" that gay men wouldn't be interested in a half-clad woman.

It didn't occur to me to address bisexual men.

Besides -- I can only get so many adjectives in the headline.

on edit: Jesus fucking christ. Can you put some things in proper perspective without pointing fingers at people?????
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:16 PM
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21. Forgive me, I was being unduly harsh!
You are correct, gay men wouldn't rather be interested in the lady.

And you're right on the adjectives. :-)

I also just came from GD where there's a big argument about political correctness...

Actually, gay men and hetero women might give the most unbiased answers since the advert doesn't affect them the way it does toward hetero men and lesbian women. (and bis of either flavor) And while many hetero men and lesbian women would still say the lady, uh, distracts from the item for sale, they'd still be drooling.

I've never understood why a person would buy something just because a glamour model happened to be holding it. That isn't logical. For example: "That hot chick is standing in front of a car! I'm going to buy the car!" or "Hey look, that Greek god over there with a bowling ball sized basket is selling this can of earwig excrement. Let's buy 50 pounds of it just because he's good looking with a Guinness-worthy package!"

Of course, if Michael Moore posed on the set of his movie F911, I'd probably go see it because I know what he's about. He's a cutie but I know that if I see the movie, he's not going to sleep with me - yet alone even know I exist except as a statistic. :-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:18 PM
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22. Let me guess -- Trumad's at it again, right?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:29 PM
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33. Hey watch it girl
or I'll call my buddy OJ... ;-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:28 AM
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45. lol
i LIVE for your shit-stirring posts.

you know that!!!

:D
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:09 PM
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14. some of us can recognize cheap pandering when we see it
my answer is Hell No!
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:13 PM
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17. Why would a leather bra make me more inclined to spend 5 hours...
...reading her book?

She's cute though. Why would that make me buy one of her books? I don't know, unless the book's about the porno industry or something.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:15 PM
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19. It's not even her book.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:15 PM
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20. I'm thinking the guy is trying to use sex to sell his product
why else would he picture his goods with those women?

I've bought tons of stuff off Ebay, and this is the first time I've seen something like this.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:15 PM
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18. Yewah!
Can I work on her edge?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:23 PM
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23. No, she's cheap looking
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:53 AM
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41. you say that like it's a bad thing
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:35 PM
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24. Sadly, no!
Plus the thumb-ring throws me for some reason.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:37 PM
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25. It actually makes me less inclined...
I won't get to have sex with the woman and I can't have sex with the book. Why the Hell would I buy that?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:42 PM
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26. No.
Now is there was a picture of a shirtless hot guy carrying a cute kitty cat .........
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:51 PM
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27. Does she come with the book?
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:59 PM
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28. She's a distraction...
a very nice distraction, but a distraction nonetheless. Unless, of course, she comes with the book.

She is irrelevant to the book, and I would buy the book if I wanted it in spite of her.

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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:00 PM
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29. Absolutely not... it makes it seem cheep and worthless to me...
and not worth a read... maybe it works for men? :shrug:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:07 PM
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30. nope
not a thing there. what i'd call a 3-shotter back in the day; 3 shots of cuervo, & i'd probably make a play.

makes me NOT want to read the book, though.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:41 PM
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32. A "three shotter"??
LMAO!!!!!
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bookfreak Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 04:21 AM
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34. No, it makes me less inclined to do so
I find these sort of ads tacky and repelling. The Gebco auto insurance company runs tv ads with one guy and a dozen 3/4 naked women dancing around like sluts and singing about the benefits of Gebco. I wouldn't get Gebco if it were fifty cents a year. I also would never buy a car from that annoying Foreign Motors guy. (If you are from the Mid Atlantic you might be familiar with these two)

If I already like a product I will buy it regardless of the ads. If I'm shopping for something new an ad I like won't sway me to buy it, but an ad I hate very well might repell me.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 04:38 AM
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35. Is that a pleather halter?
Because of my feminist views I definitely wouldn't buy the book, but if I wasn't a feminist, I would still have to object due to the horrendous crime against fashion.
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 04:42 AM
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36. No!
If I'm going to invest my time into reading a book, it has to be worth my time.

And, yes, she's hot!
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:32 AM
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37. thats one i could take to bed with me
looks an interesting read... :)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:50 AM
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38. No. Fake blondes in faux-leather halters don't do it for me.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:35 AM
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39. No, but I would buy the woman and rescue her from exploitation
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:52 AM
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40. Yes. It makes me more likely to get more info on the book
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 08:52 AM by truthspeaker
Oink.

But it makes me even more likely to shop for a top like that in my girlfriend's size.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:02 AM
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42. I prefer to call myself a 'lesbo' rather than a gay woman..
but anyway..

If she were the author I MIGHT be interested in what she wrote.. especially if someone from DU recommended it to me. But, if she's just a model holding the book, no.. that doesn't make me want to buy it or read it.

:) Hope this helps!
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:08 AM
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43. No

I think that's pretty silly!

Books are intellectual things and have nothing to do with the body, unless they are erotica or porn.

On the other hand, I could see being swayed to buy a motorbike or a car by a half-clad model. MAYBE. Or at least, those things seem to go together better.

NOT that half-clad women are "objects" but, the thing that they're selling, a car, is a material thing, and the thing they are "selling" (sexiness) is also a material thing.

But I don't get it, with books.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:18 AM
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44. Book?
What... OH! She's holding a BOOK!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:45 AM
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46. Maybe if the book was covering her face.
otherwise, no. even if she was the author, no.

I buy books on word-of-mouth from friends I respect.

THis photo makes me respect the seller very little...

RL
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:48 AM
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47. HELL no!
Good lord. Christ... some people buy a book because of what the cover looks like. I shudder to think someone would buy a book because it's being "modeled" by a chick in a bra.
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