I think high heals are oppressive to women

[Nikia]

I don't wish to continue the gender war with this post. I have choose not to wear high heals because they hurt my feet. I've mentioned that to other women who say that it is something that you get used to. Looking good is worth it. Is it? Women have 9 times the number of foot injuries as men and wearing heals is a major factor in this large discrepancy.
Do you think high heals are attractive? If you are female, do you wear them? Even if you are not, do you look down on your date or friend if she is not wearing high heals to a formal event? Is pain and potential injury worth looking good? Should heavy women wear girldes too? Shouldn't we be past this?

[HEyHEY]

1. I don't like them

They look trashy and out-dated

[trof]

2. heels

if you still have time

[fishnfla]

3. I dont from high heels but...

them shoes with the needle point toes, how do you scrunch the little piggies in there?

[Colin Ex]

4. I don't know about that.

I mean, someone has to carry the burden of healing and I think men and women share it well.

And I said, hallelujah, I am healed.

-C

[Droopy]

5. I say it's up to the woman

I certainly don't give a hoot whether a woman wears high heels or not. And I really don't give a damn if they don't wear them to a formal event. I say whatever floats your boat.

[Fleshdancer]

6. Men wore high heels before women did....

...according to my history of fashion book anyway. Now I'm a proud feminist, but I must say that when it comes to high heels, men made the smarter decision by stopping. Although I DO believe men are stupid for not carrying purses. Everyone needs a bag to carry these days with all the crap we keep on our person (wallet, phone, keys, etc)

When it comes to fashion, I seriously believe women are the ones at fault here. If we all woke up tomorrow and decided heels weren't attractive anymore, the men would come around to our way of thinking and someday seeing a women in heels would look odd.

[St. Jarvitude]

63. Pockets

It's a bit of a pain in the ass (literally - if you lay down with a pen in your pocket you can get up and have it stab you in the ass after it's twisted the entire pocket around. Not fun.) sometimes, but I'm a man and I carry around everything I need in my pants pockets. In fact, here's what I just pulled out of my pockets:

• Pen


• Pencil


• Pack of gum


• Several $ bills


• Another pen


• Student ID


• Ticket stub from Spider-Man 2


• Wallet (in the front pocket)


• Deck of KEM playing cards


• Large bandaid (I have this giant wound on my chest and I need to replace the bandaid every so often)

I will admit, though, that I sort of envied that the men could carry around handbags without social disaster in Europe. :)

[YellowRubberDuckie]

7. Well, look at the hammer toes these women get from them...

If I'm not in flip flops, tennis shoes, or if I'm in something dressy, flat Mary Janes, There's something wrong with me, and I should be taken to a psychologist--STAT. Oh, and BRAS are oppressive to women too.
Duckie

[Vitruvius]

11. They're also a good way for women to break their ankles.

I can't imagine why any women wear them.

[physioex]

17. Bras provide support....

So they have a functional value, not that I would complain if they were gone.. :evilgrin:

[traco]

66. About 25 years ago I was traumatized by the sight of a woman

who obviously never wore a bra. She was an older lady, and her boobs hung down to her belly button. She walked out of a dressing stall at the swimming pool with no shirt on. I will never go without a bra! I don't want to wind up looking like that!

[physioex]

68. LOL...Good enough...

:smoke:

[traco]

73. It's funny how something like that can

influence a 12 year old girl!

[Pithlet]

56. Having worked in a shoe store catering to older women

I can attest to the damage caused by high heeled pumps. And these women were still shoving their grossly deformed feet into pointy high heals.

I love the look of heels (not too high, though) especially dressy sandals. But they are bad for your feet if you wear them regularly. I'm strictly flip flops and tennis shoes these days, also, unless I'm dressing up for a special occasion.

[Swamp Rat]

8. Why wear something that is painful and bad for your health?

Why wear clothes if you don't like it? No, I DON'T think high heels are 'sexy' but I do think they are bad for our physical health. Bare feet are much more sexy AND healthy. Our society is so fucked up.

[bratcatinok]

9. It's a choice each

person can make for themselves. There are enough styles in all types of shoes that women no longer have to wear heels to be formally or professionally dressed.

Last week I bought a pair of high heeled sandals to wear with a pair of black jeans. I haven't worn heels in 4 years but I'm enjoying these. Why shouldn't I have the choice to wear them if I want to?

I'm not sure what you mean by asking "Shouldn't we be past this?". When I was working I was a manager and in mortgage banking so I had to look professional at all times. I rarely wore heels.

[Nikia]

14. I mean hurting oneself and risking injury for fashion

I suppose that there are alternatives for women who do not want to wear heals. Many people who I have encountered think that wearing heals are mandatory or at least better than wearing flats for formal or professional occaisions.
What I think that we should be past in general are painful or risky fashions like tight girdles that fashionable women used to wear. Although come to think of it, light complected people tan, which is health damaging too.

[rumguy]

10. I agree

high heels are not good....

I don't even like the way they look...

[hlthe2b]

12. well, given that I had to have ankle surgery and no longer have any

cartilage as a result of chronic damage from twisted ankles and the very unnatural "flexed," posture spike heals require (ignoring the horrible damage from the squished pointed toes), I can't imagine ever wearing such torture devices again.

One might ask why the orthopods and podiatrists don't advocate against spiked heels and pointed toed shoes for women--but given the income they derive from them after the years of damage, I guess there is really no room to wonder. They certainly made their money off of me! :mad:

[m-jean03]

13. I have mixed feelings

First of all I would never wear them (duh), second, the good feminist in me thinks they are possibly the western equivalent of Chinese foot-binding... BUT (and I DO feel guilty about this) for some reason, the sight of womens' ankles in high heels drives me absolutely wild. I just love to see women's feet in heels.

I must have been a sleazy chauvinist in another life, I guess. :D

[Misunderestimator]

20. Cute. Yes, it's attractive because of the way heels make the muscles flex

Beyond that... I'd rather be with someone who is comfortable with who they are, rather than trying to fit a stereotype. I haven't worn heals in so many years I can't even remember. Women are beautiful without all the trappings of male enforced beauty.

[HuckleB]

35. Sure, but the muscles flex even better on a bike!

Just joking. The only reason I have calves at all, is because I ride a lot of hills, so I can make fun of the whole calf thing, 'cause I'm calf-deficient.

I don't know. My wife and I are very active, and I admit to being rather fond of her calves, but she doesn't wear heels, and I'm quite happy about that. Anyway, I just don't see the whole point of heels. It seems like a painful form of make up.

Anyway, blah blah blah.

Salude!

[m-jean03]

39. I agree with you, Misunderestimator.

But I can't help my reaction and so I was just being honest. Hell, if every woman in the world threw away their heels I would cheer them on gladly. Didn't mean to be encouraging patriarchal repression or anything.

Do you think though, that some women actually enjoy wearing heels? I think some women enjoy being extremely feminine, and it's not just because they are trying to fit a stereotype. I think these women have the right to behave this way without being looked down on. They feel sexy and attractive in their tight clothes, high heels and makeup and can do it gracefully, because this kind of ultra-femininity comes naturally to them.

If I had a girl who liked to wear heels sometimes, I wouldn't question why she did it.

[bratcatinok]

69. I enjoy wearing heels occasionally.

I mentioned in a previous post I had bought some black high heeled sandals to go with black jeans. First time in 4 years I've had heels on.

I walk differently when I have heels on. I just don't have the same little rear twitch action with flats or tennis shoes on. I feel sexier. Of course if these were high heeled pumps that would be a whole different story. My jeans aren't tight since I can eat a full meal while wearing them and still feel quite comfortable. In thinking about it, I think it's because I have to focus a little more on walking in heels so I'm more aware of how my body moves when I have heels on.

The worst sprain I've ever had was done when I had rubber flip-flops on. The front of the flip-flop curled under causing my foot to fold back on my ankle and I fell heavily on top of the folded back ankle. Took me months to get rid of all of the pain.

[Misunderestimator]

72. Where did I say I looked down on women who wear heels?

If anything I'm just concerned about their feet :) Personally, I'm not attracted to ultra-femme women who dress in tight clothes, dresses, high heels and makeup. I wear makeup occassionally and very rarely might wear heels (though not very high ones)... and when I was younger (your age), I wore them all the time. My problem with high heels is that they are painful and unnecessary.

[wtmusic]

15. Height of heels + length of fingernails

= k/intelligence

[kiahzero]

16. Now that's just silly

Wasn't there a discussion on another thread about assumptions that someone can't be intelligent, because of attractiveness? Isn't what you just said the exact same attitude?

Since you've made such a broad statement, I feel fully qualified in asking what you have to back it up... I'm just brimming with certainty that you've got a peer-reviewed study of some sort to back up your statement. If not that, maybe some exploratory research, perhaps?

:eyes:

[wtmusic]

19. Don't consider them attractive

so you're comparing apples to bananas.

Have any evidence to back up long fingernails/heels making someone attractive?

Hmm? :shrug:

[kiahzero]

23. You've missed the point.

Quite thoroughly, in fact. The point, in the previous thread, was that people made unsubstantiated assertions regarding a person's intelligence due to their physical appearance.

You, in this thread, made an unsubstantiated assertion regarding a person's intelligence due to their choice of apparel and personal grooming habits.

Comment A and comment B are driven by the exact same attitude: that you can determine a person's intelligence simply by looking at them. And that's just an unfathomably stupid position to take, lacking a significant amount of evidence to support it.

[wtmusic]

28. $50 says every woman nominated for a Nobel Prize

had relatively short fingernails and seldom if ever wears/wore high heels.

We on?

[kiahzero]

29. Right, because that's a good case.

I assume that the irony of speculating about the intelligence of others, then making an argument like that, is lost on you?

[wtmusic]

30. It's an excellent case

to support my point...but you're right, the irony is lost on me.

[kiahzero]

41. OK, let me spell it out for you

You assert "This select group of unquestionably intelligent people do may not have long fingernails, and may not wear heels, so people who do have long fingernails or wear heels are not intelligent." One has nothing to do with the other.

If this were a valid logical argument, the following would also be a valid proof:
Prove: x + x = x for all x >= 0.
For x = 0, 0 + 0 = 0. Therefore, x + x = x for all x >= 0.

In other words, the mere fact that some intelligent women do not have long nails or wear heels does not indicate that having long nails or wearing heels means one is not intelligent.

In case you're curious, the name for the logical fallacy in question is a hasty generalization: http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#generalization .

You have not proven what you set out to prove: that people who do have long fingernails or wear heels are not intelligent. Your ignorance of this fact is what makes this discussion so ironic: you are quick to cast aspersions on the intelligence others, and yet you are making an argument that is ridiculously flawed to do so.

On edit: typoe

[wtmusic]

45. straw man

a probabilistic interpretation is assumed.

If you're telling me there isn't an inverse correlation, you're wrong.

Similar to the argument that "Black people commit more street crime." On a probabilistic scale it's a fact. But deductively arguing that a specific black person is more likely to commit a street crime than a specific white person is what you're accusing me of. That is indeed fallacious, and is what keeps racists in business.

[kiahzero]

47. Not at all

You said:
"Height of heels + length of fingernails = k/intelligence"

In other words, as height of heels and length of fingernails increases, intelligence must decrease. There is no statistical interpretation to be read there. The only way of interpreting that statement as it stands is to say "As the height of a womans heels and the length of her fingernails increases, her intelligence decreases." The implication "(High heels && long nails) -> (Low intelligence)" is derived from this principle, and it would appear that such an implication was what you were driving at.

As for your question about an "inverse correlation," I assume that you are actually speaking of the contrapositive, since that's the one that's logically equivalent to the first statement (the inverse is not necessarily logically equivalent, and it is a fallacy to assume that it is). For the record, the contrapositive is:
Not (low intelligence) -> Not (high heels && long nails).

In other words, if you are speaking with someone who is not of low intelligence, it is reasonable to believe that they do not wear high heels and long nails. There are thousands of counterexamples to such.

Hell, unless you're prepared to argue that the poster going by "amazona," below, is of low intelligence, there's one in this very thread.

[wtmusic]

55. An inverse correlation is a statistical concept

and is represented accurately in the equation by:

k (a constant) / (divided by) intelligence. It really has nothing to do with a logical contrapositive.

You're fudging the argument by replacing high intelligence with "not of low intelligence", which implies anyone who isn't an absolute moron.

More realistically we can say this: "If you are speaking with a woman who is of high intelligence, it is reasonable to believe that she does not wear high heels and long nails." This is 100% true, because for every thousand counterexamples I will show you many more examples. To make the bet even more game I'll propose that female grad students are more likely to fit that description than not.

Do you disagree?

[kiahzero]

59. My mistake re: inverse correlation

I somehow transposed "correlation" to "implication."

As for your claim that I am "fudging the argument:" I am doing no such thing. I am being precise with my words, as the negation of "low intelligence" is not "high intelligence."

As to your bet, I would hesitate to take that bet, because the odds of me being right on the statistics are probably slim. I am, however, not incorrect on the matter of your assertion. Since we are discussion statistics now, rather than logical implications, the logical equivalency of an implication and it's contrapositive no longer comes into play.

My issue was with the following implication: "If you are speaking to a woman who is wearing high heels or has long nails, it is reasonable to believe that she is not intelligent." Such an implication is clearly sexist, and unsupportable logically. Intelligence is a quality that can not be determined by looks alone, and it is foolish to make assumptions regarding the intelligence of a person you are speaking to without listening to them speak.

[rlev1223]

62. but as soon as....

.....you hear their accent you know for sure.

I'll butt out now.

[wtmusic]

65. Are you affiliated with ModernMirth.com?

Love that site...very funny :thumbsup:

[rlev1223]

71. dude

yes...that's why my sig says.........

[lolly]

51. Was it Hedy Lamarr?

The glamour girl/actress who invented frequency hopping in the 40s--revolutionized the communications industry.

Never heard about a Nobel nomination, but definitely a smart chick--and wore lots of high heels.

[Bertha Venation]

18. I've got a right to wear heels!

I came out at twenty three
and this surprised my friends
"they can't be gay," they'd say
"you wear your hair too long
and you like dresses and makeup
and you polish your nails
-- and you don't even like sports"

but I am a lesbian, dammit!
so, I cut, cut, cut my hair
and I bought myself a new pair of blue jeans
I cut, cut, cut my nails
and I learned how to play a mean game of softball
-- shortstop!

and then, one day: I had a revelation!

~snip~

Well, shit. I wish I could remember the rest of the song. It's a duet for women called "I've Got A Right To Wear Heels," and was written by -- Christ, I can't even remember the guy's name. Steve someone. Anyway, you get the gist of it: we lesbians aren't supposed to be femmy. Well, bullshit!

The words were taken from the coming-out story of a member of the South Coast Chorale, as were all of the words for all of the songs in a show written for us called "OUT!" It was my second-favorite show in seven years with that chorus.

Of course, we couldn't have done this song without adding a little extra camp: near the end, one of the guys breaks out of the chorus and splits up the duet and sings, "Listen, sister, I know how it feels: I've got a right to wear heels!"

What wonderful memories.

Anyway, thanks for letting me use your thread to share a memory.

What's my take on heels? Screw anyone who deigns to tell you what you're "supposed to" wear! Dress for yourself and no one else.

edited -- got some of the words wrong

[Misunderestimator]

24. Hear hear BV... I dress for no one but myself.

:hi:

[Bertha Venation]

25. Brava. This begs the question:

for whom do you undress? Hmm? ;)

[Misunderestimator]

26. LOL... Um... that remains a secret...

for now.... :evilgrin:

[Bertha Venation]

27. Fair enough.

You just be sure to let me know if you're ever in the nation's capitol, y'hear? We can go for coffee and I can flirt with you in person. It's an experience NOT to be missed. :swak:

[Misunderestimator]

54. Will do... would be great to meet you.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

21. Eh.

I wear them from time to time. But pantyhose is something I avoid if I can get away with it and 99% of the time I do.

I am about to start a job in August which demands a dressier wardrobe, though. Sigh.

And I wear underwire every day, have to. Thelma and Louise are just too overgrown not to.

If you don't like high heels, don't wear them, I say. If I didn't work, I'd probably wear them about twice a year, if that.

[Cerridwen]

22. And back pain and injuries

Wearing heels causes the back/spine to go out of alignment and can cause headaches, neck problems, upper and lower back problems (think of cramps once a month), and so on.

I wear heels occasionally to because I like to dress up when going out.

Mostly I stay with flats. My feet and back love me for it.

:)

[amazona]

31. everyone who wears jogging shoes gets injured

Do you look down on your friend or date if she does not work out? Is pain and potential injury woth looking good?

I've been told that everyone, bar none, everyone who jogs will experience an injury. In fact, both times I experienced injury, I was wearing hiking boots, not my high heels, which are perfectly safe.

Should I give up sport? Yet I think it is safe to say that sport is more dangerous than wearing high heels to a party.

It is a reverse snobbism to say we don't care about looking good. We live in a visual society. I am short. The surgery to correct this problem is serious, unapproved in the U.S. and unlikely to be successful. The difference in the way I am treated when I wear high heels is remarkable. Why should I give up experiencing what it is like to be taller for a few hours? It harms no one and seems to give pleasure to many.

You will pry my high heels from my cold, dead hands...

[lolly]

50. You won't even let me borrow them for the day?

Especially if they're purple. Damn, I've been looking for just the right shade of purple heels to wear with a skirt that I just bought. Purple isn't in this year, so there's none to be found.

Anyway, I'll chime in with the "don't judge me by my shoes" side, which seems seriously underrepresented here.

Oddly enough, I wore 1" shoes for years, thinking I couldn't wear heels because my ankles pronated so badly. I was constantly tripping and kicking my own ankles.

I got a pair of 2 1/2 inchers for a special occasion--surprise!--my ankles pronate much more on a flat surface than on my heels.

I can't handle the spikers or the pointy toes, and I can't keep 'em on my feet without an ankle strap, but since then I've built up a nice collection (not Imelda Marcos nice, but quite a few) of 2 1/2 - 3 inch heels in all colors. I like them, I like the way I look, and you DO get treated a little differently when you're 5'6" than when you're 5'3." It's not right, but that's the way it is.

[LWolf]

32. No heels.

Ever. If nothing else is comfortable, my feet are going to be. I've been seen at work with color-coordinated canvas sneakers or leather riding boots under my skirts. But no heels.

[HuckleB]

33. This man doesn't understand the whole high-heel "thing."

I don't find them attractive, and I can't understand why anyone would torture her or himself by wearing them. Comfortable footwear can look quite attractive without being -- I don't know -- this overboard? I love nice shoes. Don't get me wrong, but I don't consider high-heels to be nice shoes. They're bad for the back, bad for the feet, and just plain, uh, well, bad.

Toss those heels in the trash!

:)

[Lydia Leftcoast]

34. I'm tall enough

and I like my feet to be comfortable, thank you.

I like a slight heel (an inch or so and square), but nothing that throws my entire weight on the balls of my feet or that looks like a spike.

[RetroLounge]

36. Then they shouldn't wear them. Duh...

RL

[slinkerwink]

37. I don't wear high heels, period....why go through that pain to look tall?

I don't get why women have to do this. It's kind of archiac like Chinese women binding their feet so that their feet would be small, but the downside was that they barely could walk because they were in such pain from having their feet bound.

[wtmusic]

38. Or the African women who put rings around their necks

as they get older, hyperextending their spine and making them inable to live without them...

Primitive, no?

[kiahzero]

43. I've yet to see the case made that they "have to" do it

Some women want to. Which apparently makes them dumb (see above), but somehow it's not sexist to say that a woman must be dumb because of some physical attribute.

You're the expert on this: what am I missing?

[Bridget Burke]

40. I've managed to avoid them, myself.

A youth spent in orthopedic shoes made me realize my feet did not have to hurt. (The fashion aspect of those horrors immunized me to the Doc Martens fad, though.) There are lots of comfortable shoes out there nowadays that are even OK in an office situation. For weddings & such, high heel dance shoes with straps & roomy toes are a good compromise.

However, some women (& some men, heh) realy like the serious spikes--at least some of the time. Good for them!

[eyesroll]

42. I've given up on heels

I have a couple of pairs of shoes with maybe 1.5-inch chunky heels and boxy toes -- no pointy toes, no spiky heels, nothing higher.

I'm 5'2" -- heels don't make me look any taller. If anything, they make me look like a little kid playing dress-up -- I'm wobbly in them. (I once told a salesperson at a convention, "you'd rather me be short or rather me be on workers' comp?")

I have never, ever worn anything more punishing than sensible professional flats to a convention or job interview, and I can't imagine it's cost me anything. (If it did, I don't wanna work there anyway.)

[Nalgenelover Snort]

44. Never worn heels a day in my life.

I usually just go barefoot... going to a hippie college makes that possible. :D

Add to the list of torture devices for feminine beauty:

~waxing, particularly bikini waxing
~underwire bras (it annoys me to no end that I can't buy a friggin' B cup bra without underwires)
~shaving
~tight jeans... why are men's pants so comfortable, dammit?
~pantyhose-- why waste your money on an article of clothing that will hardly last you a month?!
~eyebrow plucking
~dieting

Are there any painful things men do for the sake of beauty? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm really curious to know.

[wtmusic]

48. Hair transplants

we can be painfully vain too!

[kiahzero]

49. A few

Shaving and dieting are gender-neutral. And while men's dress shoes may not be as uncomfortable as high heels, they can certainly hurt like hell after a while.

[nickgutierrez]

52. Weightlifting, the day after

OWWWWW

Yeah, the pain goes away after a while, but damn does it hurt at first. I'd rather run or play basketball or something.

[Radical Activist]

78. The worst I can think of

is shaving face. Maybe I'll think of more when I'm older. I'm glad women and society don't expect men to do as much as women to look good.

Is that hippie school in Asheville? I noticed what state your profile says you're from.

[tritsofme]

46. I think that women in heels look pretty sexy,

but they'd probably be just as attractive without them. Definitely not a deal breaker.

[Ilsa]

53. About once a year I wear them

to my husband's company Christmas dinner party. The rest of the year I wear comfortable, attractive shoes that won't hurt my feet.

I think most high heels are evil torture devices.

[dolo amber]

57. I like heels ok

They honestly don't hurt my feet at all, never have...:shrug:

I prefer platforms tho. And at 5 ft even, I'll take all the help I can get. :7

[Skittles]

58. I never wear heels

they're stupid.

[Misinformed01]

60. Threw mine out, along with the rest of that girlie horseshit

Took me 12 years to meet a man after that, but who cares?

[NMDemDist2]

61. they make women run slow and walk funny

which in certain circumstances can be fun....

but for real life, give me a pair of tevas anyday

[RobinA]

64. Used To

wear heels all the time, now I pretty much never do, but I would for dress. I actually like heels if they are comfortable.

On the other hand, long fingernails - no way. Had them once just to see what it was like. I felt like I was disabled. Couldn't pick up change, couldn't zip my jeans, couldn't dial the phone, scratched everybody who got near me.... And this was before computers, I can only imagine what they'd be like now.

[Guy Fawkes]

67. Being a man who's worn heels... I hate them.

I would, however, advocate their use... if they weren't so dangerious and uncomfortable... Perhaps you should invent a good pair of heels.

[floridaguy]

70. Absolutely, we're way past this

I'm a massage therapist, and everyday I see women with foot, ankle, & back problems related to wearing high heels.

IMHO Women should "Just say no"

Why not burn your heels like the bra burners of yesterday?

[northzax]

74. well, I think Flats are oppressive to the Little Black Dress

you simply can't wear flats and a little black dress, it's be unfair to men.

[dancing kali]

75. Give me my heels. . .

While I no longer wear them all the time, I do still wear them. Why?
For one, I am somewhat height challenged - the extra couple of inches is useful. I wear 2 1/2 inch heels generally. I also look much thinner in heels. (It's not the fashion industry thin look I'm after - Mr. Balanchine is responsible for my weight obsession.) So I guess you could say I'm into it for the illusion heels create. I used to dance on pointe. . . wearing high heels is nothing to the damage that did.

While I have twisted ankles while wearing heels. . . I have done the same in flats. Height of heel doesn't seem to matter in my case.

All of this is in relation to ordinary high heeled shoes. . . extreme spike heels and platform shoes are evil things. Can't feel the ground in them.

Uhhh. . . I also have long nails. . . they're strong & grow fast and I don't sweat it if one breaks. They have no relation to my intelligence or to my ability to do my job. Although, when I first put blond streaks in my hair. . . I think some of my brains did leak out when the chemicals went on. . . I managed to drop a rock on my own head while using it as the world's oldest tool three hours after colouring my hair.

To answer the original questions -
Are they attractive? - Depends on the shoe really. Do I "look down" on those who don't wear them? - No, to wear heels or not, even to a formal event, is strictly a matter of personal choice. Worth pain & injury? - No, not to me, but, that's another personal choice issue. I'm of the "if it hurts don't do it" school of thought. Girdles?! - They still make those?

[Amaya]

76. Don't wear heels often...

but I love my heels. Legs look leaner & posturer is better. I never feel uncomfortable. To each is own.

[IronLionZion]

77. I don't find high-heeled women attractive

and I don't like excessive make-up or stupidity either.

Why in the world do you wear them? are those extra 3 inches of height worth twisting your ankle for?

[Radical Activist]

79. They probably are along with

a heck of a lot of other things women choose to do to make themselves look good. One reason men like high heels is that it forms a woman's legs and butt and it makes women look weak at the same time since they're hard to walk in. If a woman wants to look like a weak sex object I guess that's up to her. A lot of men do go for that.

My preference is that I think heels look good sometimes at a very formal event. Otherwise, if I see a woman in high heels in ever day settings I just think, why would she wear shoes that make it that hard to walk around? Anything the shoes do to make her look good is ruined by how silly and useless they are to wear, at least for me.

[tigereye]

80. don't wear high heels

haven't for many years since I almost broke my ankle in a pair of slides. I do like boots with a slight heel, though. High Heels just hurt and I can't walk in them. I prefer flats and sandals and the like.

[LibertyorDeath]

81. Depends what you're doing in them.

:)