Let's Be Honest, how much of a chance does George Bush really have?

[joeybee12]

Slim to none if you ask me.

I don't think Kerry has run that great of a campaign so far, but I also don't think some people realize how widespread the hatred for Dumbo is. AND it's only going to grow!

[7th_Sephiroth]

1. we really must ask

how much of a chance does rudy Guiliani have of being elected president (they will drape the flag around him and he will be touted as the 9/11 hero mayor)

[physioex]

3. Nooo wayy..

The guy just likes to get face in front of the camera. His divorce and marriage won't play well with family values. I don't think he is the great leader he his hyped up to be, the families of the 9/11 victims don't like his sorry ass.....

[physioex]

2. Don't be so critical of Kerry...

I said the same thing when he was last in the polls. As far as Bunnypants goes, the 28 signature today should send a message. But I don't count on it being easy.....

[joeybee12]

4. I do think that Kerry needs to be more aggressive, but then again, it's

only June. We forget here that few people actually pay attention until September--we're much more in tune with the goings-on.

The media actually helped Kerry during the primaries. They wrote him off, and didn't cover him at all--that allowed him to go one-on-on with the voters and get his message out. It wasn't being filtered through the media, like Dean's was.

[physioex]

7. Yea I was an early Dean supporter...

I suppose the media is responsible for hyping him up in the beginning, and destroying him in the latter stages of his campaign...

[joeybee12]

8. Towards the end, you never actually even saw a clip of Dean speaking

(except for the "scream", of course), you only saw a reporter saying what Dean said.

[I thought so.]

10. Wrong.

Dean's abrasive smartass personality destroyed his chances.

[joeybee12]

12. You'd have a point IF anyone got to see that...

...not saying that he does, but he was never really give the opportunity to speak and let people decide. Once again, the media filtered not only his message, but his personality.

[physioex]

14. Right...And if his personality was soo bad explain his rise??

[joeybee12]

15. He rose at the start because the media ignored him...people liked what the

saw, but the media didn't. The media hammered Kerry at the start, he sank, and went under the radar. Then Kerry started rising once the media ignored him.

[physioex]

16. I could agree with that...

Also the way the electoral college could have played a role..

[indepat]

5. You've got tens of millions of "Christians" out there who will vote for

GWB because he too is a "Christian", loves Jesus, and does God's work, never mind the destruction to the environment, the economy, the fiscal soundness of the Federal government, the UN, international goodwill and order, Iraq, its people, and infrastructure, the rule of law, the Constitution: so never count him out, particularly considering who will be counting the votes in many swing states.

[virgdem]

6. In a normal world, no chance at all...

But we are not living in a normal world. I really fear that Bu*sh will use an "October Surprise" to whip up the fear in this country again. They are so desperate to use anything that will help them, and I don't really put anything past them. We can only hope that the level of disgust for Bu*sh will be so high that whatever they pull will be of no consequence. Let's hope and pray that that is the case.

[StopThief]

9. According to Tradesports. . . . .

about 58% chance of winning.

If you're certain of your opinion, you can make a pretty penny with a well placed purchase there.

[Taverner]

11. Honestly, I think Bush will win in a landslide

Something will happen, whether a well orchestrated terror attack or cancelling the elections outright.

I smell doom - when Bushco and the neocons are on the defensive for too long, they respond like trapped rats. Trapped rats are very dangerous...

[physioex]

13. I am not sure about the winning part...

There are several major blows to his campaign. I agree with you, trapped rats are very dangerous.......

[Taverner]

17. I guess *win* is misleading

Bushco will assure victory, that's what I'm afraid of, by hook or by crook...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

18. Bush is aggressively "reacting" to the slightest challenge...EVERY one...

...this man is far too arrogant, far too self-assured, far too "I don't give a flying fuck WHAT you think" for there to not be something in the works.

Look at the sheer number of threads that appear on DU on a daily basis such as "Bush is drinking again," "Bush has come completely unhinged," "This man is insane," etc. etc. etc. These are not "isolated incidents"...he is displaying this behavior an a daily basis. He stutters, he stammers, he goes completely silent, he endlessly repeats the same talking points, and he's tied with Kerry in most polls.

From "There is America, and there is Texas" in France and further on down the list...you can either vote for him or kiss his Connecticut ass, because SOMETHING is up. Bin Laden in custody, 9-11 Phase II, only Bush, Rove, Hughes, Ashcroft, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld know what the "October Surprise" will be.

Whether or not it will SUCCEED is another matter entirely. And I apologize in advance for saying this, but I would sincerely like to see John Kerry grow a set...SOON. Letting Karl Rove scratch his soft white underbelly will NOT win the election. If there's a campaign strategy DESIGNED to defeat George W. Bush, I confess ignorance...I absolutely do NOT understand what that strategy is. I am also not the only person who feels that way, who is simply "trusting" Kerry to do the right thing at the right time. BULLSHIT. Bush needs to be defeated. Let's see the strategy. NOW, Senator.

[Taverner]

20. Yes Kerry does need to grow a set

I think he will make a fine president, and will probably rival LBJ in terms of getting things done, but WE WILL NEVER KNOW IF HE KEEPS UP HIS CURRENT STRATEGY!!!

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

21. And my comments are made with absolute respect for DU and Senator Kerry...

...because if I didn't care, I'd sit back and watch Bush steamroller over him.

I agree with you, I also think that Senator Kerry has the potential to go down in history as one of the finest Presidents this nation has seen.

BUT...the time has come to take off the kid gloves. Senator Kerry, FIGHT for what you know is right, and MANY will fight with you.

[4_Legs_Good]

19. It will be very close, but Bush will win

I'm afraid to say.

And I'm not even predicting an October Surprise. He'll win because he's successfully controlled the media for the past 3 years, he has an INCREDIBLY strong base, and people like him. He'll win because no good alternative has been presented. He'll win because things in Iraq aren't (won't be) as bad as they were in March and April of this year. He'll win because the economy is improving.

If Kerry continues as he's been going, whether or not it's his fault, he will lose big. My guess is, though, that he'll improve as the campaign goes on and lose by less than 20 electoral votes.

Gawd, I hope I'm wrong.

david