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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:21 PM
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Arkansas family celebrates 15th child
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- Michelle Duggar is all smiles after delivering her 15th child, but she may be ready for more, her family says.

Mother and child were doing well, although Michelle, 37, was feeling some discomfort because the birth was her second by Caesarean section, said her mother-in-law, Mary Duggar.

"She's a trouper. She's just all smiles," Mary Duggar said.

Jackson Levi Duggar was born at 10:52 a.m. Sunday, weighing 7 pounds 8 ounces and measuring 20 inches.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:22 PM
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1. Disgusting!
Absolutley Gross - What's Wrong With People?

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:35 PM
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10. Why is it 'disgusting'?
Signed,

One of Fourteen.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:48 PM
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18. No Offense
Too Many Puppies

Too Many Puppies

"You Can Not Be For The Environment And Breed Like Rats" - Mark Twain

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:49 PM
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19. Offense taken.
It was an ignorant, insensitive and bigoted remark.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:52 PM
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21. FOURTEEN is perfectly normal...
but fifteen? C'mon.. that's excessive :P
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:53 PM
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22. Yeah! Those AR sex fiends!
:P
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:38 PM
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12. My father was the baby of 18!
I am second to the last in a line of 8. Whats the problem?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:23 PM
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2. Arkansas Young Mother of the Year?
As if getting pregnant is hard!!!

what is wrong with these people????
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:31 PM
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4. As much as you may criticize it

Birthrates in some western societies and amongst some cultural groups are below replacement levels. Due to economics, changes in womens role in society, etc.

Somebody's gotta take up the slack ...

Unless you have some evidence that this specific situation is harmful to the children in question, I suggest you reconsider your generic, politically correct outrage.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:43 PM
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15. I didn't say it was disgusting
I just don't see why she gets an award for it!


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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:50 PM
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20. maybe because she's a good mother, raising decent children?
Nah, that couldn't be it!

/sarcasm off
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:53 PM
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23. If that's why, then great.
But nothing in that article says that.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:58 AM
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32. Because Rumsferatu will have Soldiers.
THAT'S why she gets an award...Just like Hitler's "Cross of the German Mother", awarded to german women who popped 'em out. More Cannon Fodder for PNAC's FutureWars (tm)

And call me a bigot, but I see absolutely NO reason, none, zip, zilch, to have a dozen kids. Why? You don't need all that "free help" on the farm anymore. I don't get it. If somebody could give me an explanation other than "Why not?", I'd be willing to listen.

How can you be against SUV's and for big families? I'm willing to bet that a family of 14 uses more resources than 2 ReTHUG Yuppies and their his n' hers H-2's...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:07 AM
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33. I'm with you, John
I freaked out just having one.............
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:06 PM
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34. BiggJawn, these kids wont be cannon fodder
They are more likely to attend Patrick Henry College and slink on into the right-wing political machine. They will be the future Heritage Foundation employees in Iraq.

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NuckinFutz Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:33 PM
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8. Hey, now, didn'tcha see where she's homeschooling
all them chillens and heppin' build their house from the ground up?

She must be made of stronger stuff than them two Texas wimmin that had fewer and kilt 'em.


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Les BOOGIE Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:29 PM
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3. wonder if they have buck teeth? n/t
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MissRegina Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:32 PM
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5. Poor kids
They don't deserve that.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:54 PM
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24. Don't deserve what? To be part of a large family?
Edited on Tue May-25-04 07:56 PM by Rabrrrrrr
I love being from a large family, and sometimes feel sorry for people who aren't. I know I have an amazing safety net because of my family, a net that not a lot of people have.

That said, I also believe that in this day and age of environmental destruction and over-population, it IS irresponsible to be popping out so many children.

Also feel bad because surely this is a real fundy Christian family, and THAT the kids don't deserve. I don't know how people etner into society when they've been brought up to believe taht therepublican party and Christianity are one and the same, and that science is evil.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:32 PM
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6. i hope they can afford to feed them all
otherwise that is incredibly irresponsible.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:33 PM
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7. My grandfather was one of 18 children
one set of twins. That's 17 pregnancies. Ugh.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:18 AM
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28. your grandfather came from a generation where Birth Control was criminal
and women had no choice but to popout baby after baby.

My grandmother was from a family of 17. My other grandmother came from a family of 2, but her mother had a hysterectomy at an early age.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:34 PM
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9. Why do it?
Because they can.













morons.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:36 PM
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11. Here's a pic of the family
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:38 PM
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13. Nice uniforms
<sarcasm>
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:40 PM
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14. Looks like they need
Julie Andrews to be their nanny.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:32 AM
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26. all the little robots, lined up as one
We just washed our brains, and can't do a think with it!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:46 PM
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16. Apart from giving them names that start with the same letter,
which I find to be so cutesy I want to :puke: whenever peple do that, I don't have a problem with a large family nor do I find it digusting. I also think it's cool they're building their own house.

obviously not everyone can do this because it would kill the earth, but, you know, what the hell. My dad's from a family of 16, and mom with 7, and I LOVE being part of such a huge family. I have 62 cousins in my generation! That's cool! And that's not counting the spouses!

My only rel poblem with this is that given the size of the family, the location, and the fact that they homeschool, I suggest there's a 99% chance they're a freaky fundy family making sure that their children don't learn any science other than what the Bible teaches and they're surely growing up extremist rightwing republicans. Maybe not, but as against gambling that I am, I WOULD wager money on that one.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:47 PM
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17. As one of seven (youngest girl)
Edited on Tue May-25-04 07:47 PM by ikojo
I find it irresponsible for people to have so many children. I don't care whether they can afford them (as the Duggers clearly can) or not. An American child consumes more of the world's resources than any other human on the planet. This family now has 15 children.

I suspect that if the family was not so aryan and well off, SOME people in this country would be singing a different tune about a 37 year old woman giving birth to her 15th child.

People may wax poetic about how wonderful it is to have oodles of siblings but I did not find it a joy. There was intense competition for my mom's very limited time. She had seven kids in a ten year period and as a result, like Mrs Dugger, she barely had time to enjoy each child's infancy and toddlerhood.

Even though my now deceased younger brother and I never had children my mom STILL has 15 grandchildren.

We definitely do not need more humans on the planet.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:26 AM
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25. kick
:kick:
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:14 AM
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27. MORE??
YOU JUST HAD NUMBER FIFTEEN! Take a break already!

Really, there is something wrong with thinking about the sixteenth when you just birthed the fifteenth.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:23 AM
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29. are they rich?
They better be, or else our tax dollars will be paying for this brood.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:38 AM
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30. The article calls him a "real estate businessman"
And he's a former state legislator. (Republican--from another source.)

The brood was on TV this morning. She sounded a bit out of it, but was probably medicated; this was her second Caesarean. Maybe she should slow down a bit....
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:41 AM
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31. well as long as they can afford all their kids
I say more power to them.

And as long as the husband isn't forcing his wife to keep getting pregnant, I don't see any harm.
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sbj405 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:12 PM
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35. Reminds me of a family in my area
Good Catholic family with 13 or 14 kids. Mom and one of the older kids were gone, leaving dad with the rest. Well, he "forgot" the youngest in the van on a summer day in N. VA. The poor kid died in that van. Apparently, it had not been the first time, they forget or left a kid somewhere. I think it would be incredibly impossible to divide your love and attention between so many kids.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:54 PM
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36. I cannot fathom having more than two
The thought of 15 goes beyond insanity inducing. And I love children. My two young boys are the joy of my life. But, they are a lot of work, physically, mentally and emotionally.
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