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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:42 PM
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Serious Question! What Do Repubs Listetn To?
I Mean, Finding A Republican Artist Is Pretty Hard To Do Outside Pop-Country. What THE HELL Can They Listen To With A Clear Conscience? Lemme See

Jazz - No Way
Rock - Some, Very Few, Maybe Nugent (Like He's Any Good)
Punk - NO
Folk - HELL NO
Blues - Hell Fuck No!
Pop - Some (Everyone Knows Pop Blows) I'm A Poet :)
Bluegrass - Some (They Probably Have The "O Brother" Soundtrack - Which, BTW, Has A TON Of Liberal Artists On It :)

So What DO Repubs Listen To? Any Lurkers Wanna Reply?

Or Do Republicans Hate Music?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:47 PM
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1. gospel?
--I pictured my 2 RW co-workers at home and imagined what they might listen to. One, I have no idea. The other is a Christian who just hasn't really been paying attention and says she likes The Chimp.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:49 PM
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4. I Forgot Gospel
That's A Good Point. You Know I Like Some Gospel Music. Expecially, The Southern Baptist Deep Siritual Stuff - It's Moving. Alas, The Only Thing I Have Close To Gospel Are Old Blues Recordings Of Gospel Like Songs.

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:47 PM
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2. In my personal experience, the ones I know
all listen to Clasical. But then so do I.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:50 PM
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8. Well Classical Has Few If Any Lyrics
It's Beautiful Music, But I Find It Hard To Believe That All Republicans Are Big Classical Fans :)

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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:00 PM
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19. Classical has lots of lyrics!
Ever heard of opera? Art song (Schubert wrote 617 of 'em!)? Choral music?
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:06 PM
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Well Choral Music Yeah, Opera Is It's Own Bag
In My Opinion - But Yeah, You Are Right!

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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:08 PM
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27. Its own bag?
What are you calling "classical music" then?
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:10 PM
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29. I Am No Expert On Classical Music, So I Might
Or Better Yet, Am In Error - Everytime I Put It On Classical I Never Hear A Friggin' Word Of Lyric/Chant/Etc. I Realize The Greats Wrote Operas As Well. It's My Own Ignorance That I Posted What I Did Prior.

Sorry


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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:17 PM
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87. I'm the one who should apologize
I realize I came across as belligerent and that wasn't my intention.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:18 PM
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76. I guess it's the difference between
wealthy, snobish upper class freepers who are right wing to protect their wealth, and poor, lower-class sub-morons who are freepers because they are too stupid to realize they are being played for fools by the wealthy snobish upper class freepers.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:48 PM
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3. Toby Keith...
Darryl Whore-ly
George Straight (as opposed to George GLBT)
Lee Greenwood
other suck-ass right-wing country 'artists'

note... Willie Nelson is NOT included in that category!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:50 PM
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6. Out of all the HORRIBLE jingoistic dare i call them songs
Edited on Tue May-25-04 03:53 PM by chimpsrsmarter
Clint Black wins the prize for the most foul ever. His song was called, and i swear this is true.....IRAQ anf I ROLL.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:54 PM
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12. Neither Is The Man In Black
Good Post

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Johnny Cash was a great artist
i saw some old concert footage of him sing why i wear the black.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:21 PM
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81. Also a humanitarian, he and June
Carter Cash were big supporters of SOS Children's Villages for years and years, but never made a big deal out of it, the way somebody like Imus does. It is an international group that helps abused and neglected children.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:30 PM
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85. Bingo!
Cash Family Rules! :headbang:
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:49 PM
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5. Country Western and Cher
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:50 PM
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7. Stereotyping sucks
I am a member of the Mississippi Valley Blues Society and I happen to know that a past president of the Society is a staunch Republican. And he's a nice guy to boot. A lot of Repubs probably listen to the same music that anyone else does. I mean, they are human after all. It's just stereotyping to say that they listen to this or that or don't listen to something just because they are one political party or another. Music knows no boundaries.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:53 PM
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10. Music INDEED Knows Boundaries
How Can Someone That Despises Liberal Ideas Listen To Bob Dylan? Or Joan Baez? How Can Someone Who Idolizes G Dubya Listen To Dead Kennedy's? How Can Any Staunch Republican Listen To Rage Against The Machine?

I Admire Those That Are In Roughly The Same Ballpark As I Am In.

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:05 PM
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22. Ok point taken
the bands you mention are indeed liberal, but mostly, music is entertainment. I think Nugent was a helluva guitar player, even though he's a friggin' nutcase, I like ZZTop and used to like Lynyrd Skynyrd(they need to give it up) even though they are considered "conservative" bands. I just like the way they play. The music sounds good to me. That's why I listen and why most people listen. I do admit that I will never buy another Nugent cd or attend another concert by him because of his insane views. But mostly, I listen to tunes because they sound good. I do stand by my earlier comment about stereotyping.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:08 PM
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26. Stereotyping Is Shitty, I Agree
And I Didn't Mean To Lump Every Republican Into A "Music Hater". I Was Just Sitting Here Listening To My Collection And Thinking To Myself "How Many Artists Are Republicans?" And The Only Answer I Could Come Up With Was "Very Very Few"

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:28 PM
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39. Can you imagine...
How Nugent and Tommy Shaw managed to work together when they were with Damn Yankees?
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:31 PM
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40. No, Not Really
I Suppose They Got Through It Under Heavy Drug Influence. What Do You Think? I mean If You Are Higher Than Jesus, You Tend To Go With The Flow.

:)

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:00 PM
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55. That's not it. Nugent never did drugs.
He's that crazy and f'd up all on his own, naturally. Maybe just high on the music they were making?
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:03 PM
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57. Nugent Never Did Drugs
You Might Want To Check The Behind The Music On That Man...

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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:14 PM
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60. I saw it. Did I forget something?
I remember that parts about the women, and the much younger woman he married (I think), but I don't remember a drug part.
Anecdotally, a friend of mine who was on the road with a band found himself partying with a bunch of folks, including Nugent, one night. He said Nugent didn't do any drinking or drugs but he was the craziest mofo of the bunch.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:22 PM
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63. I Stand Corrected
Edited on Tue May-25-04 05:23 PM by HornBuckler
I Could Have Swore He Was A Heavy Boozer Before He Went Nugenty

Sorry My Bad

Edit : Maybe If He Did Drugs He'd Be A Better Person :)

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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:53 PM
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11. Sorry, but the thought of a repuke...
trying to wrap his/her tiny little mind around YES or Pink Floyd makes me giggle...
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:51 PM
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9. dont you know?
music and dancing are the worlds greatest evils, why our good lord of truth John Ashkroft sees it as the truth and calls it "the devils walk" we good republicans only "listen" to rush Limbaugh and sean Hannity, NO, what are you doing Calico Cat, GET IT AWAY FROM ME, AHHHHHHHHHHH! *runs away*
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:55 PM
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14. I Agree
My Thoughts Are That Repubs Own Fewer CDs Than Liberals Do - I Base This On Nothing But My Own Mind And Perception.... Music Is VERY Important To Me, I Don't Think A Politcally Charged Republican Would Say The Same.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:10 PM
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28. Hey - what's up with capitalizing every word?
Sorry to jump in with a critical remark, but it's hard to read that way. Not as hard as writing in all caps, but hard. It's not good design style, and tough on the conversation.

Make it easy on people - use appropriate punctuation and capitalization, please.

Thank you. I now return the thread back to music.

The republican types I know, even the ones who are interested in music, don't have the same passion as my liberal friends who are interested in music. For the republican types, music is more for background - or else they prefer music that celebrates the unity of people: that is, patriotic music, or fundy Christian music. They tend to prefer music with words, and aren't big on instrumental. They also tend to like easy music: no Yes, Floyd, Stravinsky, Shostakovitch, etc.; they want it either in 4 or in 3. Don Ellis? Forget it.

Not to blanket all republicans and conservatives that way - there are always exceptions, but in terms of the regular working stiff joes I worked with and know, your basic republican is into vapid pop music, patriotic/Christian music, or country music, or classical music that's "nice" and "easy to listen to", like Mozart or verdi. Lots of liberals are as well, but I find the proportion of people who like complex, interesting, and/or politically charged (but not unreflective patriotic jingoism) music tend to be liberals.

And that holds true, in my experience, for all the arts. Metropolitan opera and City Ballet: lots of republicans. BAM: pretty much all liberals. Metropolitan Museum: lots of republicans. Whitney: Mostly liberals.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:17 PM
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31. Sorry - It's An Old Old Habit
I Find Very Hard To break from but I will for this reply at least. As for the run-on sentences and broken ass structure english is a second language and I have a bit of a buzz right now.

Now as to the origin of my typing like this - It Started with the Commodre 64 having Both Upper And Lower Case Letters. Many people who were on Bulletin Board Systems at the time started to post like this, Especially in Europe. If you log into Euro boards or Blogs, You will still find a number people still typing like this.

Hope That Helps!

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:26 PM
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37. Actaully, your punctuation is fine
I only added that in because it is also important, along with the rest.

I think you'll find that it's actually easier to type properly than to support an affectation like capitalizing every word. And it's easier for the readers. And communication is what online fora are all about, right? So why make it more difficult to understand you. Typing in all caps, or with every word capitalized, or l33t speak, etc., is the conversational equivalent of mumbling or talking with your mouth full of food.

I decided against the Commodore 64 and went with the Atari 800 instead. But I won't start a Commodore vs. Atari flame war. It's really too bad that neither company could keep up their stuff and failed so miserably at actually letting the public know they had computers for sale. The computer world would be a lot different, and possibly a lot better, if Apple and IBM hadn't been able to push their stuff into the world, and if Atari had been able to define what computers should be. But, maybe not.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:33 PM
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42. Hahaha That's Good Stuff
Yeah Things Have Changed, Commodore And Atari Had Some Great Machines - They Just Sucked At Advertising And Bill Gates Was/Is Great At Stealing..

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:55 PM
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13. I believe
That a Republican's preference in music is not substantially different than a Democrat's. It probably depends on their particular taste. I sure many of them listen to all of the genres you mentioned.

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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:58 PM
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17. Interesting
But Don't You Find It Hypocritical To Listen And Admire Artists That Have Such A Different Set Of Beliefs Than Your Own? Look At The Greats, How Can A Boob Like Hannity, With His Ridiculous Rhetoric, Listen To The Beatles/Dylan/Stones/Hendrix/Etc In Good Faith? Knowing Damn Well Their Favorite Artists Are Liberals.

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:04 PM
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21. Don't think it matters
I listen to music that I happen to like, the political leanings of the particular artist notwithstanding.

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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #21
33. I Hear Ya
But Would You Listen To A Really Great Song That Went "Butcher The Poor, They Should Get A Job - The Lazy Assholes" ?

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. I doubt that I would consider anything such as that...
to be all that "great" a song....
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:25 PM
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36. You've Made My Point
If You Were A Staunch Republican I Think You Would Find Guthrie's Lyrics Quite Offensive.

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #36
41. Well, whether you are a Republican or Democrat,
"Alice's Restaurant" is hilarious!
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:34 PM
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43. You Think Rush Would Like It?
Not A Chance - "I Started Jumping Up And Down Yelling KILL KILL KILL And Then The Seargent Joined In And We Were Both Yellin KILL KILL KILL"

I Don't Think He'd Find The Irony

:)

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:37 PM
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44. Don't really know what Rush would like...
I know he used to be a DJ, and he really likes the Pretenders' music, even though they are liberal.

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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:42 PM
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46. Man, You Stay The Course Eh?
I Admire That - You Have To Admit That It's Pretty Hypocrtical Though -

I Can Never Imagine Rush Thumping The Grand Masters Of Music (In MY Opinion)

Can You Picture Rush Singing "Imagine" ?

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. no, I can't "Imagine" that. :-)
Although I personally don't care for that song either.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:48 PM
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49. hahaha!
Yeah, I Just Picked That Song (I'm Not A Huge Fan Of It Either) But The Beatles And Lennon Are Regarded As One Of The "Greats"

How About Rush Singing Any Bob Dylan Song?

'Cept Maybe "Sometimes Satan Come As Man Of Peace"

:)

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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. "Knocking on Heaven's Door"
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:54 PM
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53. Good One
Yeah 'Cept For "Mama Throw My Guns In The Ground, I jsut Can't Fire Them Anymore"

He Wouldn't Go For That

:)
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:58 PM
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16. Dixie Chicks
nah...just kidding

I'd go with Toby Keith or some Christian "Rock"
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Servo300 Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Their version of "Landslide"
makes me want to hurl....

:puke:
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belladonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:35 PM
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71. Same here
I like the Dixie Chicks for the guts they showed when the freepers went after them, but the music sucks. The cover of Landslide makes me want to either cry or beat my head against a wall, depending on my mood when I hear it. :D
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:07 PM
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25. i agree, i'd say christian music too.
Edited on Tue May-25-04 04:09 PM by NuttyFluffers
they've covered the entire gamut of music, from rap, to rock, to (unbelievably) death metal (they call it apocalyptic rock, btw). it's an entire alternative culture, so they listen to what genres you listen to, but they have their own artists and white-washed messages. most christian music blows, only the rare few are worth listening to even a song or two. no serious audiophile could withstand restricting themselves to just christian music - so my best guess is most republicans are probably tone deaf and bad dancers and therefore have shunned most music to avoid shame (shame that they eternally feel, shame that makes sex dirty and pleasure abominable - unless they are hurting someone else).
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:46 PM
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47. I Can't Dance For Shit
Edited on Tue May-25-04 04:47 PM by HornBuckler
But I Love Music :)

I Agree With You - They Just Don't Get "It"

Reminds Me Of The Boss "Born In The U.S.A." That Bush Was Using

What A Crock!

Edited For The BOSS

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 03:59 PM
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18. Actually, there are republican punk bands
surprised when I found out, due to a Lounge thread a week or so ago.

Though I could only say that while they may be using the musical structure of punk, they really shouldn't call themselves punk because punk is way more than just the configuration of notes and chords - it's an entire, very liberal/anti-corporate/anti-republican attitude.

But, there ya go. There are republican punk bands.

And I bet there's republican jazz, especially in terms of light jazz (which isn't really jazz to me, either) such as Kenny G and shit like that.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:03 PM
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20. Well I'll Be Damned
Wonder If They get Beat Up At There Shows? :) Just Kidding, I Would Never Condone Such Behavior. My Only Point Was That Being A Staunch Republican Makes Your Music Listening Options Very Brief.

Maybe They Don't Think About It, Driving Down The Street, Singing Along With Lennon.

That Sounds Right, Doesn't It?

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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:06 PM
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24. Same as us. They just think of their "movement" as a "rebellion"
against the liberal media, liberal power structure, and liberal cultural hegemony, and so listen to rebel music and pretend that the ideas therein apply to their foolish fantasies. I appreciate that it sounds like I'm being ironical, but this is true. A lot of them worship Monty Python and assorted other counter-culture icons, completely ignoring (or completely missing the point) that most of their material ridicules people like them.

Go to FR and read people's siglines. Between the "We must support our President!" and "Indict Hitlery Klintoon"s you'll find a few telling or quoting what they like.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. Interesting
So You Are Saying That They Are Just Too Damn Stupid To See That Using A Simpson Avatar Proves Hypocrisy On Their Part?

You Are Probably Right, They Don't Realize That 95% Of Great Art Is/Was Created By A Liberal Leaning Mind.

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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:17 PM
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32. "Go to FR and read people's siglines" ... I did just that:
Freeper's sigline :puke:
by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)

I don't know...Right now it looks like Bush is getting his a** kicked.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:22 PM
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35. (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
I Have Heard That Song Unfortunately. It's Disgusting In My Opinion... And In Response To Other Posters, For Me To Go Out And Buy That Would Go Against My Every Inch Of Belief.
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:28 PM
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38. I'm not a republican
but I am a libertarian, which some people think are almost as bad :)

And right now my faves -- according to my most played on iTunes -- are:

Scissor Sisters -- dance, pop, retro, etc
Laibach -- industrial
Spearhead -- acid jazz
De Phazz -- acid jazz (especially like Godsdog)
Lamb -- electronica
Gotan Project -- electronica/latin/tango
Brian Eno -- the best!
The Orb -- electronica/dance
J-Walk -- electronica/dance
A Flock of Seagulls -- love that 80s stuff!
William Orbit -- techno/dance
Gladys Knight and the Pips -- love them
Moby -- everything from Animal Rights to 18
The Ones -- dance
Claude Challe -- Buddha Bar/chillout complilations
Stephane Pompougnac -- Hotel Costes/chillout compilations
Verve Remixed 1 and 2 -- really great electronica/house remixes of old Verve jazz stuff
Annie Lennox -- still a fab diva
Pet Shop Boys -- I can't help it, I'm gay and I live in London
The Bad Plus -- jazz; esp like their cover of 'Smell Like Teen Spirit'
New York Dolls -- great 70s glam/prepunk NY scene sound
Public Image -- better than the Pistols
The Smiths/Morrissey -- Morissey has a new album out and it is great
David Bowie -- esp the Low album
Fatboy Slim -- dance
Buzzcocks -- old 80s stuff
Kraftwerk -- proto industrial pre techno
KLF -- dance
Mary J Blige -- she is glam
Joy Division -- for when I'm working out

So put that in your pipe and smoke it ;-)
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. Nice List
But A Lot Of The Artist You've Listed Are Very Staunch Liberals - Obviously, That Doesn't Bother You, And I'm Not Sure It Should.

Artists (For Me) That I Listen To Almost Always Fall In Sync With My Beliefs - Even Before I've Heard A Lot Of Songs. Maybe I'm Some Sort Of Medium - But I Think It's Because Most Artists Are Liberals..... :)

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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:51 PM
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51. Indeed
many of them probably would consider themselves 'liberals' if asked (I'm thinking of Moby, probably Scissor Scissors) and others are way to the Left of that (Laibach, for instance) and really that doesn't mean much to me. Some might also be right-wingers for all I know or care.

I like the music and after all very little of it -- if any -- is trying to sell me on some policy proposal or another. (If you want that, listen to U2!)

In terms of their social _attitude_ I'd say that clearly if you listen to club/dance/industrial/related genres you probably share a certain set of attitudes that can inform political stances but that's really a matter of an overall libertarian approach to life and resistance to 'authority'.

But in general I think it's kind of pointless to try to read too much politics into popcult.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:56 PM
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54. But You Must Admit
You Wouldn't Find A Republican At A Front 242/Front Line Assembly/ Or A Skinny Puppy Concert

Or Maybe You Would, Don't Think So Though!

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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. You might be surprised
I don't know too many republicans now, but years ago I knew a few in NYC who hung out at CBGB and others in CA who were part of the whole hardcore scene.

I really think you are trying to read way too much into people's musical tastes.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. It's What I Do!
Yeah, I Read Into Everything. Young Punkers/Hardcores Will Be Republican At First Before They See The Error Of Their Ways - Usually They Are Anarchist In Mindset Before They Get Politically Motivated, If They Ever Do -

Music Is Art
Art Is Politcal Commentary (Atleast Good Art)




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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:27 PM
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66. That sounds very generalising
and not terribly convincing actually.

But I guess we just will have disagree. IMO 'good art' is never political commentary (of all things!).

I think you are confusing punditry and moralistic grandstanding with 'art.' I hope you don't judge the validity -- or lack -- of a work of art or music based on its overt _political content_ ... that just strikes me as very naive or worse.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. Maybe I'm Not Being "Clear"
Let Me See If This Makes Sense -

You Are A Political Person I Assume

Music You Listen To, Is Either Politically Indifferent Or Matches Your Beliefs

If It Doesn't Match Your Beliefs, You Probably Don't Listen To It. Whether Or Not The Music In Question Is Good In Your Opinion Or Not

Does That Make Sense?

Generalizing Yes, But It Fits For My Entire Music Collection. My Music Collection Wasn't/Isn't Tailored Around My Political Beliefs, The Albums I have Just Happen To Match My Political Beliefs (Or Maybe Structured Them In The First Place?) Either Way, I Can Look At Someone's Music Collection And Tell You Their Political Affiliation Among Many Other Things With A Slight Margin Of Error.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
56. Lamb is fantastic
:thumbsup:
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. Love 'em
the first time I heard 'What Sound' I was blown away and took me a while to find out who did it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #59
68. I'm normally into pretty aggressive and extreme music
but a friend played them one night at a cookout and they blew me away.Her voice is mesmerizing.
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LondonAmerican Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:53 PM
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73. Yeah
The first time I heard it I was trying to figure out who she was: the voice sounded like one I had heard before but could not place it. Made me crazy. Really beautiful!
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:50 PM
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50. Lyrics To Love
Edited on Tue May-25-04 04:51 PM by HornBuckler
Dig 'Em

Look out your window, baby, there's a scene you'd like to catch,
The band is playing "Dixie," a man got his hand outstretched.
Could be the Fuhrer
Could be the local priest.
You know sometimes
Satan comes as a man of peace.

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung.
Good intentions can be evil,
Both hands can be full of grease.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, first he's in the background, then he's in the front,
Both eyes are looking like they're on a rabbit hunt.
Nobody can see through him,
No, not even the Chief of Police.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he catch you when you're hoping for a glimpse of the sun,
Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton.
He could be standing next to you,
The person that you'd notice least.
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull,
He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull.
I can smell something cooking,
I can tell there's going to be a feast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

He's a great humanitarian, he's a great philanthropist,
He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed.
He'll put both his arms around you,
You can feel the tender touch of the beast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,
Trees that've stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.
Wanna get married? Do it now,
Tomorrow all activity will cease.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Somewhere Mama's weeping for her blue-eyed boy,
She's holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
And he's following a star,
The same one them three men followed from the East.
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.


Dig It


Edited - Because I Can't Spell.


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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:18 PM
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62. Lots of Charlie Daniels, I suspect....
And Lee whats-his-face...Greenwood!

Also, they like Right Said Fred, Mr Mister, Creed, and a whole lot of other bands that suck nuts.

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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. Amen
Hahaha "and a whole lot of other bands that suck nuts."

Squirrel Nuts


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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. Not so fast!
Squirrel Nut Zippers are great!

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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. Aha! Indeed They Do!
I Love Yer Squirrel Image BTW It's Great!

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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:24 PM
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65. COUNTRY
YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #65
72. Everyone Like Johnny Cash!
Well, Almost Everyone

Unfortunately, People Always Lump Country In A Big Pool Of Yuck

Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Jimmie Rodgers, To Name A Few Of The Good Ones.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #72
80. Agreed! There are tons of good ones...
Waylon, Merle, Gosdin, Jones, Whitley...I could go on. :hi:
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #80
86. Indeed
:hi: To You As Well - You DU'ers So Cool So Smooth

I Love You Guys/Gals.

Such A Nice Board

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
79. Funny, so do I. I love country music...and I actively campaigned for
Dean. ;)
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:08 PM
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74. my thoughts and observations on what repigs like
Edited on Tue May-25-04 06:12 PM by drumwolf
--- Country'n'western is a no-brainer.

--- A lot of the more upscale, urban Republicans do tend to like classical music, opera and also vocal jazz (and yes, even "show tunes"), and just music that could be called "old fogey" music.

I worked at Tower Records in New York in the '90s and I actually waited on Mayor Giuliani and Rush Limbaugh on separate occasions, and both of them liked classical music and stuff like Sinatra. BTW, Rush was actually a somewhat cordial man in person, and a little shy; he certainly did not go out of his way to draw any more attention to himself than he would already attract anyway.

--- Hard rock, classic rock and heavy metal tend to be quite popular among a lot of Republicans, and not just Nugent, but pretty much the whole genre, like Kiss, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, Guns N' Roses. I'm sure plenty of Republicans also like "alternative" hard rock (Alice in Chains, Nirvana) and that atrocious "Nu-Metal" crap too (Limp Bizkit, Korn, etc.)

By the way, I've read plenty of interviews with Gene Simmons, and even though he's never out and out said he's a Republican or talked about politics at all, he completely has the philosophy and mindset of a Rethug. And like Nugent, he too does not touch drugs or alcohol.

--- The broad umbrella category of "techno/electronic dance music" has its fair share of fans who are Repugs. Much of the subculture tends to attract a mostly liberal crowd, but "Republican techno fan" is certainly not a contradiction to the extent that "Republican punk fan" would be.

ON EDIT: Oh, and BTW, I had a roommate a couple of years ago who was a neocon Republican. He was actually much more into movies than he was into music (and he had great taste in movies, covering the wide spectrum of commercial Hollywood, art-house, Asian action, etc.), but some of the bands he liked included Sinatra, the Beatles, and Sigur Ros. He also liked some techno, trance and house too.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. XLNT Post Thank You
Much Insight - Much Insight

The Bands Under Rock That You Listed, Are Primarily Liberal Leaning - Lord Knows Nirvana Is - What Do You Think Is Their Reasoning Is For Such An Evil Group Of People "Liberals" Making Music They Like?

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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. because they "rock" and "kick ass"
You know, :headbang: Nirvana attracted a big fan base of meatheads, and I know Cobain was never particularly comfortable with that fact.

I personally knew one Republican who was a big Rage Against The Machine fan, and I suspect that's not as rare as we would think given RATM's lyrics and views. RATM attracted a lot of meathead fans who weren't necessarily into politics.

By the way, that particular Republican was also into a lot of trance, techno and European dance pop (some of it good, a lot of it really awful) and some J-pop (Japanese pop, but he was Asian so that might have had something to do with it).
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #77
83. You Are Probably Right
As Disgusting As It Is - I had A Repub Co Worker That Loved The Clash - So I Said, Man You Gonna Vote For Gore? (This Was A Ways Back Obviously) And He Said, Hell NO! I Votin For Bush

To Which I Replied - You Love The Clash, Do You Listen To The Lyrics?

To Which He Said "They Sound Really Good, I Don't Really Know What They Are Singing About."

Fucking Idiot

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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:20 PM
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78. "Have you forgotten" by Daryl Worely
They like freeper music.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:22 PM
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82. Greetings Champ! Yer Prediction For Tonights Game?
:)

Sota 84 La 82 Is Mine

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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:29 PM
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84. 96 91 Minnesota
They can't go into LA down 2 games and expect to win the series this will be very motivated to play.
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