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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:08 AM
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Conservative friends forced to put their kid in *gasp* public school!
:wow:

They're just beside themselves. They're frightened, seriously frightened! Their son has gone to private school since he started school. They've always thought that public school breeds only atheist, drug addicted, America-hating, tattooed prostitutes, and sometimes with belly button piercings!! But some harsh news about their favorite private school has forced them to choose the unimaginable path.

You see, they learned that their private school is corrupt. The sons and daughters of the faculty get away with murder and get awesome grades without doing any homework, while their own son is constantly in trouble and serving time in some sort of detention. I don't know all the details, but it sounds very odd, and I think it goes beyond what they've told me.

I know their kid has some behavior problems - he likes to play all the time and doesn't like to do his homework, that sort of thing. Pretty much reminds me of every kid I've ever known, but I'm not a parent ergo I'm not qualified to judge. What I do know is that he spent far more time being punished at this private school than he spent learning. That was the straw that broke his parents' back.

So, does anyone have any tips as to how a good young boy can survive the heathen, godless, sinful atmosphere of public schools? Having to interact with other kids whose parents don't drive the big SUVs or minivans? Some might even be those lazy welfare parents, or those poor broken families of single moms. Oh, and fair warning, their son might possibly be forced to interact with blacks, hispanics, or (even worse!!) sons with gay parents!!

O, woe must be this poor conservative family. I don't pray, but I'll meditate for them, truly. :D

ZenLefty
Proud survivor of Public Schools
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:10 AM
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1. Tell the lad to kick someone's ass the first day.
After that they'll leave him alone. Surviving public school is a lot like surviving prison. Same institutional food, furniture and paint. The only difference is you get to home from school every day.

GOPisEvil
Proud survivor of the TEXAS public school system
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:14 AM
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4. The first day of school was always the hardest
The first day of school the hallways the darkest
Like a gauntlet
the voices haunted
Walking in with his thin skin lowered chin
He knew the names that they would taunt him with

http://users.pandora.be/waveafterwave/DHOH%20lyrics/Lan...


Ah, brings back the words of that ol' diddy by Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy.

Hey, I survived the NEW YORK public school system. And I never inhaled!! :D
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:15 AM
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Surviving public school is a lot like surviving prison
Hence, why I send mine to private school. :)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:16 AM
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6. Actually, I hyperbolize...
...I went to a fairly decent schoool in the 'burbs. :-)
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:20 AM
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9. Well, I've never been to prison
But I spent 13 years in public schools, and (so far) my children have spent a combined total of 24 years in public schools and are doing just fine, thank you. I don't think my 15 year-old would be learning Calculus and AP Biology in prison. She wouldn't be learning it at many of the supposedly superior private schools some of her friends attend, either.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:21 AM
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10. It. Was. A. Joke.
Calm. Down.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:25 AM
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13. Will do.
n/t
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:28 AM
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15. Relax
I'm not saying public schools are bad.

I send my daughter to a private school because;

It offers a superior education to the very decent public schools in my area.

The private school has about 1/10th of the problems that the public school has.

I can afford it.

I went to publik schools my hole life and odter then having poor spelimg and grammer I does just fine.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:42 AM
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20. Calculus at high school? Nice!
Is it common in the entire US? In Brazil, Calculus was taken off the high school curriculum in the early 80's and is taught in the first year of college instead, only for careers like Engineering, Physics etc.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:45 AM
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21. It was an elective when I went to high school
Not a required course. I think they still teach it in high school, on an introductory level.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:49 AM
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23. Ah. Brazil is TOTALLY different
No such thing as an "elective" before college. Any subject is either part of the mandatory curriculum or mandated by the school itself. At least that's the way it was when I was there (1980-82).

And it's NOT entirely true Calculus disappeared from high school. Some private schools specifically geared towards getting people through the most badass college entrance exams (ITA, IME - my alma mater, and precious few others) do teach introductory Calculus in the senior year.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:49 AM
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24. Not in all public high schools.
I think it depends a LOT on the size of the school. I went to a school with a class size of 150, and we didn't have calculus offered. But it's pretty common in larger schools.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:22 AM
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12. I send my kid to private school as well
Edited on Tue May-25-04 11:31 AM by chimpsrsmarter
a non-religeous one. Our school system is way overcrowded and they go year round on 4 different tracks. I dont know how working parents can do it, the kids go for 2 1/2 months and then have a month off and many families have 2 or 3 kids on different tracks, it's a mess. we do without somethings to pay for school, my husbands car is 10 years old but instead of buying a new one he makes due with what he has. If our school sytem were to turn around i would gladly put my daughter in public school but i don't think it's going to happen.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:10 PM
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26. A Lot Of People Took That Advice When I was in school
> Tell the lad to kick someone's ass the first day

The ass in question was usually mine. Size does matter.

If you can't fight back, keep smiling while they're hitting you --
it really freaks out the bullies.

Best to hang out with the ravers, they're much nicer people.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 01:24 PM
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28. I survived the public school system in Tennesee...
There are not very many places that have it over on on THOSE kid beating prayer forcing jerks. Texas may be one of them though...
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:13 AM
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2. "public school breeds only atheist, drug addicted,..."
"...America-hating, tattooed prostitutes, and sometimes with belly button piercings!!"

Well, I'm not a prostitute and I don't have any piercings, and I wouldn't say I'm ADDICTED, but the rest pretty much applies. My public school did a FINE JOB!!!!


Seriously, if the problems are that bad, I think they're going to have a hard time no matter WHAT school the boy attends.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:16 AM
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7. No piercings?
Go back to school! Piercing and Tattoos 101 for you!! :P
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 12:52 PM
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27. Now wait a second...
I HAVE a tattoo! I just never had a desire for putting extra holes in my body. Besides, what pisses your parents off more, an earring (even for a guy) or a tattoo?
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:13 AM
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3. It's simple . . . follow the rules, shut up and pay attention in class, do
the reading and the homework ahead of time, and get interested in doing well.

There are plenty of kids like that in public schools. But if little Johnny spends so much time in detention, maybe little Johnny should take some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for himself and straighten up and fly right.

I suspect that isn't going to happen with Johnny because his parents seem to want to just make excuses for the kid.

Are their names George H. W. and Barbara Bush by the way?
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:15 AM
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5. What school district is he in?
What's the district like?

There is a phenomenally huge discrepancy between different districts, even in the same town.

Here in the San Fernando Valley, I know several parents who spend thousands sending their children to religious schools when we have several magnet, charter, and neighborhood schools that are as good or better than those schools.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:17 AM
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8. I think it's a pretty nice one
If they stick with it, they might be surprised. :)
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:21 AM
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11. They learned that their son's private school is corrupt, huh?
Letting the teacher's kids skate and picking on their little Nimrod. How did they learn this, is what I'm curious about. Is there actual proof, or are they just making excuses for their son's poor peformance? As far as public schools, I went through the Chicago public school system. No picnic, but I survived and did just fine. And I even sat next to kids who didn't look like me.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:27 AM
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14. Actually,
The kid's dad got a part time job working for this school, and that's about how the whole thing started. But there's probably some truth to what you say. I'm sincerely hoping the kid's behavioral problems rebound in his new public school environment.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:39 AM
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18. For all you know the kid might be happier in public school.
Maybe a few friends with tatoos and piercings are just what the doctor ordered.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:30 AM
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16. Pretend to be gay (or come out)
At my daughter's school, all the popular kids are (or claim to be) gay.

She gets bragging rights for having a gay dad.

What is the world coming to?
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:34 AM
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17. That is pretty funny.
I only knew one person who admitted she had gay parents. I was dating her, and a couple months into it she explained her family situation and why I never got invited over. I was a little freaked out at the time, but I got over it and realized her dad was a very nice guy (never met his boyfriend). But I was sworn to secrecy - if word got out that her parents were gay, she said she'd have to leave the school! Not that she was ashamed, but she was afraid of being ostracized by all the kids there.

It's good to know that, at least in some places, it's finally being accepted. :thumbsup:
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:41 AM
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19. San Francisco in the eighties.
When heterosexuality was just not cool.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:52 AM
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25. You've been watching too much South Park
:) or maybe art really does imitate life (yes, I believe South Park is art, so there!)
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:46 AM
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22. Maybe now they'll support adequate funding for public schools
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