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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:52 PM
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Why do repukes want to run government like a business?
I mean, businesses like to grow and become all-power monopolies yet the pukes speaketh often of small government and no restrictions on freedoms (corporate freedoms that is, social freedom is restricted as much as possible.)

Quite frankly, the way humans behave, we need government. Moderate government to make sure ALL aspects of it don't go bad.

And right now, corporate america is so bad it stinks.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:55 PM
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1. They can make money off both.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:55 PM
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2. Because business makes profits for the owners.
But they'll tell the morons that it's all about "efficiency".
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:59 PM
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3. But they don't.
Have you ever known a solvent business that runs consistently in the red and continues to incur larger and larger debt?

The myth that the GOP would run government "like a business" is total bullshit. It's a cover for their real intent -- which is running the government for the benefit of big business.

:shrug:
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thermodynamic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:14 PM
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4. Off-topic
"Green for Dean"?

Is that like a "Reagan Democrat"? :evilgrin:

I'm surprised you're not for Kucinich.

Now I don't mind Dean except for his viewpoint on NAFTA, one of the worst abominations to have been put into effect in the first place. (IMHO but Canadians won't like NAFTA if we get into another oil shortage...)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:37 AM
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11. Not nearly the same thing...
...as a Reagan Democrat! :D

I do like Kucinich very much, but a good deal of his platform is simply unrealistic in the short term - and I really do believe he hasn't got a prayer of winning the presidency.

Dean has the ideals, but with a very pragmatic, common-sense kind of practicality. He's got the support, the momentum, and a touch of the Clintonian charisma.

I don't entirely agree with you about NAFTA, but I think the treaty as currently written and enacted, absolutely is an abomination. I think Dean would like to work, not to eliminate NAFTA (because he couldn't), but to remedy what is most wrong with it.

Let's be realistic here. A presidency is four years, maybe eight if things go really well. The first two years are spent mopping up and getting organized. The rest are spent fighting inch by inch for forward movement and change. Then we get someone new. If Dean gives us a good start, hopefully we can get the party back on its feet, set a new progressive tone, and keep moving forward.

I don't think Kucinich, for all his fire and idealism, can accomplish any part of that, primarily because he hasn't got the support base to get elected in the first place. I think President Dean will have an important position where Secretary Kucinich's considerable talents will be well used and he can accomplish much good. :)
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:16 PM
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5. The same here;
When I see the incompence in the economy and all those scandals/frauds ....

:shrug:
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:18 PM
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6. So they can pillage the bank accounts then leave the country.
Sort of like the Enron folks.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:18 PM
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7. Its not a bad idea
If they would run the goverment like a company described by adam smith where companies actually works for the good of society our goverment would be great. Unfortunately its run like Enron now
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-03 04:38 AM
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12. Ain't it the truth!
:eyes:

Adam Smith, where are you now?? We need you!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:19 PM
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8. Businesses are not democracies.
Corporations especially have an evident tyrannical character.

Running government like a business means hasta la vista democracy.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:19 PM
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9. One of the reasons is the desire to have a strong, CEO-like presidency
That is what has happened with a Republican-controlled Congress acting like a rubber-stamp coporate board of directors. That "strong CEO" model is one of the factors that allowed giant corporations like Enron and Global Crossing to run amok and finally crash. What has happened in the corporate world has now been paralleled in national government. We are overvalued and undercapitalized.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:09 PM
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10. exactly
That is what has happened with a Republican-controlled Congress acting like a rubber-stamp coporate board of directors. That "strong CEO" model is one of the factors that allowed giant corporations like Enron and Global Crossing to run amok and finally crash. What has happened in the corporate world has now been paralleled in national government. We are overvalued and undercapitalized.

If you thought a lot of people were hurt when Enron crashed and burned, wait 'til bushco bankrupts the U.S. :(
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